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werd618
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Question about g2g and mushroom consistency
#26865969 - 08/06/20 08:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know that spore syringes haves tons of spores in them so when you inoculate several jars, there's a good chance your going to get some inconsistencies in your mushrooms. My question is this: If I inoculate one jar of grain, let it fully colonize, then use grain to grain and transfer that colonized jar to 12 more jars of grain, will the mushrooms from those 12 jars be relatively consistent in potency etc?
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Re: Question about g2g and mushroom consistency [Re: werd618]
#26865985 - 08/06/20 08:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Short answer- no. Spores will give you tons of genetic variations no matter the scale. You can narrow it down by making transfers on agar or cloning a nice looking fruit.
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Re: Question about g2g and mushroom consistency [Re: werd618]
#26865989 - 08/06/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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If it`s from ms syringe, it doesn`t matter. You even mix them up to bulk later on. You get desired genetics from cloning.
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I'm not the best to take advice from, but from my understanding consistency will best be acheived through cloning and isolating via agar.
You may be eliminating some variables by using a "master grain jar" but if your source is from MS your end result is still going to be scattered.
As far as potency I'm not knowledgeable enough to answer.
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Re: Question about g2g and mushroom consistency [Re: werd618]
#26866000 - 08/06/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Technically you’d be limiting genetics somewhat but there will still be thousands of strains in that original master jar and it’s a big gamble to start a master from a spore syringe.
When you germinate spores on agar and transfer until clean you’re already narrowing down genetics a lot. And then you’ll have a clean master to expand with.
If you narrow down too far straight from spores you could end up finding and isolating shitty genetics without knowing what you have. I like to start with plenty of diversity and then find clones.
Most of the time you’ll get average size and potency cubes anyway though whether you use a huge wedge of a germ plate or do a few transfers first to narrow down genetics.
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Re: Question about g2g and mushroom consistency [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26866015 - 08/06/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I find it hard to clone for potency. You can clone a fruit that stains super blue, but thats not a reliable guage of potency.
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That’s my usual move too, but you have to grow it out and try it to really know.
Unless you’re cloning something like PE/ape where a single decent sized fruit can be a monster trip. Clone it, eat it, if it’s good keep the plate. Or you can try to hold onto a little piece of tissue until after you trip if you’re trying to be stingy with a plate lol.
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