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GlazedHazels
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Is all Chinosol the same?
#26865492 - 08/05/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi I'm wondering if all chinosol is the same. On a wine making website it says chinosol is (8-hydroxy quinoline sulfate)
but in this guide "chinsol" is listed as (83% ammonium carbonate, 15% copper sulphate)https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9749035#Post9749035
Will the first one work for keeping cobweb out?
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Allium
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Boxxy says wrong forum
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GlazedHazels
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Re: Is all Chinosol the same? [Re: Allium]
#26865516 - 08/05/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why! This pertains to botany. You's trollin'!
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Allium
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Oh, my bad 
I had no idea what you were talking about, and I thought when I saw cobweb that it had something to do with mushrooms
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Chinosol is a recommended fungicide for Trichocereus seedlings, its also food grade for wine making. Make sure you get the legit stuff, it isn't cheap. If its from a wine shop, its good.
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Re: Is all Chinosol the same? [Re: DancingWolf]
#26865933 - 08/06/20 07:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright allium. How you doing?
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The mushrooms are great. The mushrooms are fine. Give me them with lashings of wine.
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Allium
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Re: Is all Chinosol the same? [Re: ft116]
#26866003 - 08/06/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm doing great buddy! You should see all my Datura's and Brugmansia, they are huge!
How have you been?
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Re: Is all Chinosol the same? [Re: Allium] 2
#26867262 - 08/06/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Chinosol is or contains the chemical 8-hydroxyquinoline.
In that sense there is only one kind because it's meant to be 1 chemical.
Whether all products marketed as such really contain what they say they contain is another story, and so are all the possible additives that might be in it. So the ammonium carbonate and copper sulfate are additives that are not in standard Chinosol. Copper compounds are other, extra fungicides.
Ppl say real chinosol can be pretty expensive but i got some i thought pretty affordably for how much is needed so i would disagree.
Idk how well it works against various fungi, some sources claim it is just a mild fungistatic (and also bacteriostatic and acting on more). Seems pretty good for seedlings in reasonable soil mixes. I still saw i got apparently 1 Loph seedling with rust which is my main issue but that was out of 100 sowed.
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GlazedHazels
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Re: Is all Chinosol the same? [Re: Solipsis]
#26869081 - 08/07/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the answer Solipsis, much appreciated. Looks like one pound will last a long time. Does chinosol tend to clump up if not kept with desiccants?
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Solipsis
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np! If i had to guess i would say the ammonium carbonate is there to be alkaline, fungi don't like alkaline conditions. I have sprayed before with sodium bicarbonate for example for this reason.
A pound lol yea, wtf. I have 10g I think and I'm fine with that. But if you would get that mix it suggests just 2% (maximum) of 8-hydroxyquinoline which would effectively for a pound be (wouldnt you know it), 10g.
Don't know about the clumping but I think so because: "Storage: Hygroscopic, Refrigerator, under inert atmosphere"
https://www.trc-canada.com/product-detail/?O876990
I have a desiccant pack in it yeah. I keep a syringe of solution in the fridge.
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