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Ovoidhunter
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: psi]
#26864053 - 08/05/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I feel pretty enlightened. My mind is open to more concepts and I have empathy towards my fellow man. I own plenty guns tho and dont want to ever have to use them but if I do they're within reaching distance. Also when you have enemies you should probably keep one near and I value my life enough to protect it.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: psi]
#26864055 - 08/05/20 08:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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psi said: You may see it as enlightened because you agree with it. But psychedelics don't direct everyone to some shared concept of enlightenment.
Firstly, I do agree with his statement "Equating not owning a gun with trusting the government is something that only someone born and raised in America could think...", you got me there. But the reason I said he is enlightened is because I think what he said is accurate, hard to dispute and most importantly, beautifully reflect reality.
Secondly, I'm just messing with larry.
Chill.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26864073 - 08/05/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ovoidhunter said: I feel pretty enlightened. My mind is open to more concepts and I have empathy towards my fellow man. I own plenty guns tho and dont want to ever have to use them but if I do they're within reaching distance. Also when you have enemies you should probably keep one near and I value my life enough to protect it.
Nothing is wrong with owning a gun. I support gun ownership. It's the whole "protect my family" and "keeping the government in check" argument that I find problematic.
You must be living dangerously to have enemies that would want to kill you literally. Respect.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: PreparationH] 1
#26864078 - 08/05/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: Tell us more about how the USA won the wars in the middle east now hehe
“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous." -1984
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: 3some] 1
#26864080 - 08/05/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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3some said: Chill.
Oh I am hella chill right now.
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larry.fisherman
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: 3some] 2
#26864093 - 08/05/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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3some said: There is no need to go apeshit. I'm asking opinion on guns. Not questioning your manhood. Chill.
I'm just saying that psychedelic experience are often associated with clarity of mind. Meaning you can see through all the hype, debate, bravado, etc and see your personal need for a gun for what it truly is.
Having lots of guns on the street makes the police jumpy, that's a fact. I'm not saying take guns away from private citizens. I'm just thinking that the self protection part has became a mantra that most people just parrot and stopped thinking about the real motivation or even the utility value for wanting a gun. I don't see private citizens in America today breaking into gunfights like in the wildwest. But the sheriff seems to still live in that era.
Apeshit? Are you so offended that you can't see when someone is simply disagreeing with you? That's pretty sad son. Perhaps take a breather before you post. All you're saying is you think that just because you got high that everyone is just like you. That's just not the case. Having feelings one way or another doesn't make you right about things. I can feel bad about stepping on bugs but that doesn't make me dumb enough to imply I should just sit down and die because I can't prevent the impact my existence has. Law of the jungle, son. Life feeds on life no matter how beautiful and that means it needs protecting. That's clarity.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: 3some]
#26864095 - 08/05/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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3some said: Police having armored vehicles and mounted guns are just plain excessive. Unless you have an active armed insurgency, why the fuck do you need to spend millions maintaining a fleet of monsters like this?
This is all legacy from our colonial past. Big guns to quell rebellion and subdue the opressed.
Chill.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: psi] 2
#26864097 - 08/05/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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psi said: You may see it as enlightened because you agree with it. But psychedelics don't direct everyone to some shared concept of enlightenment.
There’s a higher percentage of fascist bootlickers around here than anywhere else I’ve seen
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: larry.fisherman] 2
#26864107 - 08/05/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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There are neo-Nazis who take psychedelics and remain neo-Nazis. Not very enlightened from where I'm standing, but they are very different people than I am and I'm sure the drugs take them to different places. It's the "set" portion of set and setting.
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larry.fisherman said:
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3some said: There is no need to go apeshit. I'm asking opinion on guns. Not questioning your manhood. Chill.
I'm just saying that psychedelic experience are often associated with clarity of mind. Meaning you can see through all the hype, debate, bravado, etc and see your personal need for a gun for what it truly is.
Having lots of guns on the street makes the police jumpy, that's a fact. I'm not saying take guns away from private citizens. I'm just thinking that the self protection part has became a mantra that most people just parrot and stopped thinking about the real motivation or even the utility value for wanting a gun. I don't see private citizens in America today breaking into gunfights like in the wildwest. But the sheriff seems to still live in that era.
Apeshit? Are you so offended that you can't see when someone is simply disagreeing with you? That's pretty sad son. Perhaps take a breather before you post. All you're saying is you think that just because you got high that everyone is just like you. That's just not the case. Having feelings one way or another doesn't make you right about things. I can feel bad about stepping on bugs but that doesn't make me dumb enough to imply I should just sit down and die because I can't prevent the impact my existence has. Law of the jungle, son. Life feeds on life no matter how beautiful and that means it needs protecting. That's clarity.
You win. Because I'm lost in your philosophy.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: psi]
#26864121 - 08/05/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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psi said: There are neo-Nazis who take psychedelics and remain neo-Nazis. Not very enlightened from where I'm standing, but they are very different people than I am and I'm sure the drugs take them to different places. It's the "set" portion of set and setting.
I'm pretty cure the aztecs used to get loaded on mushroom honey and make human sacrifices
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: psi]
#26864122 - 08/05/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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psi said: There are neo-Nazis who take psychedelics and remain neo-Nazis. Not very enlightened from where I'm standing, but they are very different people than I am and I'm sure the drugs take them to different places. It's the "set" portion of set and setting.
That's a very scary thought. From crazy to batshit crazy. Wait. I can smell one around here(not you psi).
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: feevers]
#26864129 - 08/05/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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feevers said:
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psi said: There are neo-Nazis who take psychedelics and remain neo-Nazis. Not very enlightened from where I'm standing, but they are very different people than I am and I'm sure the drugs take them to different places. It's the "set" portion of set and setting.
I'm pretty cure the aztecs used to get loaded on mushroom honey and make human sacrifices
True that. Lucky the crazy ones think we are hippies and our mushrooms as dangerous drugs. Can you imagine growing a patch at a terrorist training camp high up in Pakistan or Afghanistan? Or the Rose Garden in White House?
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Ovoidhunter
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: 3some]
#26864157 - 08/05/20 09:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26864178 - 08/05/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Before heading into the mountains, strangers often ask whether they should be concerned about their safety.
"Only if you are related to somebody," said Jane Bagby, assistant director of the Appalachian Center at the University of Kentucky.
Contrary to popular films such as 1972's "Deliverance," which portrayed Appalachian people randomly attacking outsiders, the majority of mountain killings occur among friends, neighbors and kin.
When William Lynwood Montell began to study the history of homicide in south-central Kentucky, he found that the people he interviewed did not use the word "murder."
They thought "murder," a legal term for premeditated homicide, was far too harsh and implied a viciousness not usually present in the conflicts, said Mr. Montell, a retired professor of folk studies at Western Kentucky University.
Instead, they preferred the word "killing."
"Killing" covered a variety of types of homicide, including premeditated ones that the community considered justified under the right circumstances, Mr. Montell said.
Many people in the mountains use that word today. When a dangerous character comes to a violent end, state police say, some respond philosophically, "Well, some people just needs killing.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: 3some]
#26864185 - 08/05/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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3some said:
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larry.fisherman said:
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3some said: There is no need to go apeshit. I'm asking opinion on guns. Not questioning your manhood. Chill.
I'm just saying that psychedelic experience are often associated with clarity of mind. Meaning you can see through all the hype, debate, bravado, etc and see your personal need for a gun for what it truly is.
Having lots of guns on the street makes the police jumpy, that's a fact. I'm not saying take guns away from private citizens. I'm just thinking that the self protection part has became a mantra that most people just parrot and stopped thinking about the real motivation or even the utility value for wanting a gun. I don't see private citizens in America today breaking into gunfights like in the wildwest. But the sheriff seems to still live in that era.
Apeshit? Are you so offended that you can't see when someone is simply disagreeing with you? That's pretty sad son. Perhaps take a breather before you post. All you're saying is you think that just because you got high that everyone is just like you. That's just not the case. Having feelings one way or another doesn't make you right about things. I can feel bad about stepping on bugs but that doesn't make me dumb enough to imply I should just sit down and die because I can't prevent the impact my existence has. Law of the jungle, son. Life feeds on life no matter how beautiful and that means it needs protecting. That's clarity.
You win. Because I'm lost in your philosophy.
There's nothing confusing about it. Even if life has no inherent meaning I can still value myself and recognize that bad things happen. Go walk around in the bush with nothing with you and then go do it with a big ass knife and tell me how little self defense matters. Feeling safe is important it's one of the first things your parents should ever help you experience and you probably love them for it. Even the purest person's blood can pump with rage. Love is complicated.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: 3some]
#26864209 - 08/05/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hell yeah i own guns, theyre fun as fuck hehe. Main motivation is to blast targets in the desert but i wouldnt take out protection as a secondary motivating factor. I think the risk of a night break in at our house is minimal at worst, but still, id rather be prepared than unprepared and that goes for most things in life. I also have 10k emergency savings that ill probably never touch but its good to know its there should I ever need it 
I like people having freedom to do what theyre gonna do in life. Be it drugs, owning weapons, whatever - Just dont hurt other people. Id make the argument that far fewer people are hurt by guns than they are by drugs as a whole, including those who are unintentional victims. The argument that we should take any of the stuff away doesnt make a whole lot of sense, id rather just genetically weed out the psychopaths who cant handle their shit, so the rest of the sane world can enjoy their toys
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: ManianFH] 1
#26864217 - 08/05/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahhhh, but then where does the weeding out end? Who decides what is and isn't sane?
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26864254 - 08/05/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah i thought about that and actually came back to edit heh. i would rather like it to be something like scientists have found the insane 'i want to kill people' gene and can turn it off like a lightswitch at birth CRISPR style.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: ManianFH]
#26864282 - 08/05/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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it would be cool to have a test akin to the trisomy 21 for things like that, but look how often that's used that we know of. There's a TV show with people that have DS. Then we have doomsday preppers.
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