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My American friends. Do you own a gun?
#26863874 - 08/05/20 06:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am assuming that everyone in shroomery takes mushrooms (and other interesting stuff) every now and then. In other words, you should be chilled, if not enlightened. So do you actually believed that owning a gun helps to improve your personal safety? Or you just liked that you can shoot a few tin cans whenever you feel like it?
If you own a gun for reasons other than the three options offered, please elaborate why you feel that there is a need to own a gun.
If you don't own a gun and feel like sharing, tell us why not.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: 3some] 1
#26863896 - 08/05/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I actually started shooting while I was a kid living in Germany. We would go to the local hunting and gun club and shoot skeet, trap and organize hunts. My dad was a certified ballistics nut, an officer in the artillery. He had a couple guns he built in "Guns & Ammo" magazine and my first rifle was a thing he built out of a Ruger 6mm receiver. I haven't carried much of that into adulthood. Trap is too difficult to find and shooting in general is expensive and noisy.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: 3some] 2
#26863898 - 08/05/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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3some said: In other words, you should be chilled, if not enlightened.
LOL. I used to think this once too.
In reality, humans is humans IME, regardless of what 'enlightening' practices they indulge in.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: 3some]
#26863900 - 08/05/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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What does being "enlightened" have to do with anything? Or psychedelics for that matter? People are just people and enlightenment isn't a descriptor for a particular type of person. Enlightenment is knowledge. Knowledge isn't rule, it's not principle. Those are the conclusions we come to when knowledge is gained and a conclusion is just individual biases. Assuming one owns a gun for one reason or another does not imply a lack of "chill." If that were the case we'd all just see MMA practitioners as a bunch of psychos two steps away from gangbanging and jail. Meanwhile many fighters have way more chill than a large portion of the wokest, hettiest patchouli warriors you can muster.
I don't own a gun but I am armed. Lots of coys and bears around. I would like a gun. If the food supply truly went to shit I'd rest easy knowing I could pop a deer from my deck like once a month.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: 3some] 1
#26863909 - 08/05/20 07:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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for the moment, nah - in the future, maybe. I'm left handed, super clumsy, a bit forgetful..always seemed like I was never quite ready to safely and responsibly carry a gun on me(nor do I feel I really need to, though I have mulled the idea of concealed carry in the past) so I just didn't. I'm sort of kind of a responsible adult at this point so I'm getting closer to the point where I'd consider it, but I'm not there yet.
I'm not into hunting or shooting, personally, so there just has been no real reason for me to have one. Also I'm a medical marijuana user and technically not allowed to because it's still federally illegal to use weed, so yeah - gonna take full legalization or gun law reform for me to legally be able to get my permit.
I could picture eventually getting something purely for home protection, maybe. I do sometimes wish my parents would just because they're in the boonies - it's super safe where they live, and because of that some of the people who are loud about owning guns for 'intruders' makes me lol - but the fact of the matter is that it would take the cops ages to get to them in the event of an issue or emergency. They've got a very old one with a bayonet attachment and all that no longer works. But it does look cool.
For the record, I am chilled. I have also been a crime victim multiple times. Not once do I think in any of those situations would pulling a gun out have helped or applied, tbh - but the idea of added protection against someone trying to break into my home and hurt me is appealing. Enlightenment has nothing to do with not wanting to become another statistic. Again.
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larry.fisherman
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: pirate-blues]
#26863930 - 08/05/20 07:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlightenment is a religious concept.. if I could explain how I feel about enlightenment using further religious concepts, I imagine people would assume the Christian Messiah Jesus to be enlightened. I mean it comes with the territory. But there's a lot of evidence that points to the idea that the Christ is the anti-Christ. Literally like a choice. Enlightenment is just knowledge, particularly spiritual knowledge. If it were inherently a good thing there wouldn't be so much shade being thrown toward a secret society with it in their name i.e. the Illuminati.
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People with firearms can stop government troops in their tracks. Of course I own weapons. Not owning a firearm, in my opinion, says that you trust your government which is... scary...
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There is no need to go apeshit. I'm asking opinion on guns. Not questioning your manhood. Chill.
I'm just saying that psychedelic experience are often associated with clarity of mind. Meaning you can see through all the hype, debate, bravado, etc and see your personal need for a gun for what it truly is.
Having lots of guns on the street makes the police jumpy, that's a fact. I'm not saying take guns away from private citizens. I'm just thinking that the self protection part has became a mantra that most people just parrot and stopped thinking about the real motivation or even the utility value for wanting a gun. I don't see private citizens in America today breaking into gunfights like in the wildwest. But the sheriff seems to still live in that era.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: PreparationH] 2
#26863981 - 08/05/20 08:14 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: People with firearms can stop government troops in their tracks. Of course I own weapons. Not owning a firearm, in my opinion, says that you trust your government which is... scary...
An army of people with rifles won't last an hour against a few dozen goverment troops equipped with LRAD's, drones, armored mini-tanks wiyh automatic weapons, flashbangs/tear gases, mass pepper spray delivery systems, etc.

If it were easier to get one in my area, I'd probably keep one at my place in the mountains, I camp in some sketchy places and some extra peace of mind wouldn't hurt. Never really felt the need for one in the suburbs though.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: PreparationH]
#26863987 - 08/05/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: People with firearms can stop government troops in their tracks. Of course I own weapons. Not owning a firearm, in my opinion, says that you trust your government which is... scary...
Mate, I'm talking about larry. Just in case you think I'm taking a piss at you. Cheers.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: PreparationH]
#26863990 - 08/05/20 08:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: People with firearms can stop government troops in their tracks. Of course I own weapons. Not owning a firearm, in my opinion, says that you trust your government which is... scary...
Everyone in every country that doesn't own a gun trusts the government?
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: feevers]
#26863992 - 08/05/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: People with firearms can stop government troops in their tracks. Of course I own weapons. Not owning a firearm, in my opinion, says that you trust your government which is... scary...
An army of people with rifles won't last an hour against a few dozen goverment troops equipped with LRAD's, drones, flashbangs/tear gases, mass pepper spray delivery systems, etc.

If it were easier to get one in my area, I'd probably keep one at my place in the mountains, I camp in some sketchy places and some extra peace of mind wouldn't hurt. Never really felt the need for one in the suburbs though.
Police having armored vehicles and mounted guns are just plain excessive. Unless you have an active armed insurgency, why the fuck do you need to spend millions maintaining a fleet of monsters like this?
This is all legacy from our colonial past. Big guns to quell rebellion and subdue the opressed.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26864000 - 08/05/20 08:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: People with firearms can stop government troops in their tracks. Of course I own weapons. Not owning a firearm, in my opinion, says that you trust your government which is... scary...
Everyone in every country that doesn't own a gun trusts the government?
Governments can carry my trash, maintain roads and keep other idiots from fucking with me. Beyond that, they are not welcome even to suck my dick.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: 3some] 2
#26864002 - 08/05/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Equating not owning a gun with trusting the government is something that only someone born and raised in America could think, IMO.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: 3some]
#26864008 - 08/05/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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3some said:
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PreparationH said: People with firearms can stop government troops in their tracks. Of course I own weapons. Not owning a firearm, in my opinion, says that you trust your government which is... scary...
An army of people with rifles won't last an hour against a few dozen goverment troops equipped with LRAD's, drones, flashbangs/tear gases, mass pepper spray delivery systems, etc.

If it were easier to get one in my area, I'd probably keep one at my place in the mountains, I camp in some sketchy places and some extra peace of mind wouldn't hurt. Never really felt the need for one in the suburbs though.
Police having armored vehicles and mounted guns are just plain excessive. Unless you have an active armed insurgency, why the fuck do you need to spend millions maintaining a fleet of monsters like this?
This is all legacy from our colonial past. Big guns to quell rebellion and subdue the opressed.
A family friend used to be a police dispatcher in central maine, smallish town of 20k or so. For whatever reason their police department had huge budget surpluses every year. In order to not have their budget cut for the next year, they had to spend the extra money. They now have a fleet of assault vehicles and armored trucks that look like tanks, civilian monitoring systems, multiple LRADs and weapons that could probably be used to successfully invade a small country.
The only use all this gear gets is when the cops get drunk and take selfies playing dress-up in their war costumes with the trucks and gear, as well as maybe the occasional no-knock warrant over a few bags of dope.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: feevers]
#26864018 - 08/05/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: People with firearms can stop government troops in their tracks. Of course I own weapons. Not owning a firearm, in my opinion, says that you trust your government which is... scary...
An army of people with rifles won't last an hour against a few dozen goverment troops equipped with LRAD's, drones, armored mini-tanks wiyh automatic weapons, flashbangs/tear gases, mass pepper spray delivery systems, etc.

If it were easier to get one in my area, I'd probably keep one at my place in the mountains, I camp in some sketchy places and some extra peace of mind wouldn't hurt. Never really felt the need for one in the suburbs though.
Tell us more about how the USA won the wars in the middle east now hehe
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26864019 - 08/05/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: Equating not owning a gun with trusting the government is something that only someone born and raised in America could think, IMO.
That, larry, is insight. A good example of an enlightened person. No need to bring Jesus and a bag full of philosophy in.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: PreparationH] 1
#26864024 - 08/05/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: Tell us more about how the USA won the wars in the middle east now hehe
Since 1945, the United States has very rarely achieved meaningful victory. The United States has fought five major wars — Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Iraq, Afghanistan — and only the Gulf War in 1991 can really be classified as a clear success.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: PreparationH]
#26864031 - 08/05/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said:
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feevers said:
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PreparationH said: People with firearms can stop government troops in their tracks. Of course I own weapons. Not owning a firearm, in my opinion, says that you trust your government which is... scary...
An army of people with rifles won't last an hour against a few dozen goverment troops equipped with LRAD's, drones, armored mini-tanks wiyh automatic weapons, flashbangs/tear gases, mass pepper spray delivery systems, etc.

If it were easier to get one in my area, I'd probably keep one at my place in the mountains, I camp in some sketchy places and some extra peace of mind wouldn't hurt. Never really felt the need for one in the suburbs though.
Tell us more about how the USA won the wars in the middle east now hehe
Obviously nobody is winning there. So yeah, having guns doesn't stop government troop in their tracks too.
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Re: My American friends. Do you own a gun? [Re: 3some] 1
#26864032 - 08/05/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You may see it as enlightened because you agree with it. But psychedelics don't direct everyone to some shared concept of enlightenment.
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