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Right now in India, Modi leads the modern Hindu Nationalist party, which exists primarily as an anti-muslim and xenophobic political platform. This would suggest that Hinduism is not functionally tolerant of other religions in the real world.
in a perfect world it might be more perfect.
I know the whole world is a bit stupid these days with all forms of fundamentalism and fake news, but Modi is relevant in this particular discussion.
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Well I did already put that addendum in my original post. I've been to modern day India and I know in a lot of ways it's a shit hole. But the old Hindu civilisation was one of the great ones IMO and created many many more men who had something close to the power of gods than any other civilisation we have well recorded. The question of where it all lead is certainly something to give one pause.
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We are some form of primeate with absolutely unique consciousness and brain on this planet. We are the kings of the animals, the top of the food pyramid. We are the gods of this planet essentially.
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There are various ways to describe the forms and functions we express, but what are we? I don't know.
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I'll take that as some super clever metaphor
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Re: What Are We? [Re: Rahz]
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Rahz said: There are various ways to describe the forms and functions we express, but what are we? I don't know. 
Need to define "we" first.
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redgreenvines
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Buster_Brown
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Quote:
InnerWisdom said:
Need to define "we" first.
An object in the Universe.
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I find buddhism to be
buddha did very good and had it very good and was very good
in terms of these two and that is mostly what life and existence is about he scored
as one of the highest there has been
top class and top tenth of that class on this earth
so as a religioin where you say do this and you will have it as good as possible
and be as good as possible
and do as good as possible
it is meaningful or like when buddha was like this and he understood of one of the highest qualitites it is meaningful
religion is not that useful though but buddhism videos are good
and general outlines of right and wrong how life should be (proper action)
no harm
and things like that
like rules
these things are true
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Ferdinando said:
religion is not that useful though but buddhism videos are good
and general outlines of right and wrong how life should be (proper action)
no harm
and things like that
like rules
these things are true
we might impose rules to be our brother's keeper in our impatience to prevent unpleasantness.
"In the Vinaya (Monastic Discipline) books and Anguttara Nikaya Sutta 8.51, the Buddha said the True Dhamma will last five hundred years. This means it will be pure and unadulterated during this period only." https://sjba.org/dhamma/will-the-real-buddhas-dhamma-please-stand-up/
https://www.dhammatalks.org/Archive/Writings/CrossIndexed/Published/Meditations7/141129TheTrueDhammaH
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redgreenvines
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the monastic group's quotation of the Buddha regarding 500 years is unverifiable, and largely optimistic, but truth is what it is, and it keeps being rediscovered and explained in new vernaculars all along the way.
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redgreenvines said: the monastic group's quotation of the Buddha regarding 500 years is unverifiable, and largely optimistic, but truth is what it is, and it keeps being rediscovered and explained in new vernaculars all along the way.
By the same token a verse asserting water being transformed into wine is unverifiable as truth. How is a lucid dream verified? By popular vote? Is vernacular Buddhism or the miracles of Jesus true simply because people want them to be true?
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redgreenvines
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mostly wish fulfillment in a perfect world... etc.
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I believe in Spiritual possession and in Higher intelligences. Perhaps they will be so kind as to enable Ferdinando to give us a demonstration of the Buddha Power.
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Are we not what we do?
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Buster_Brown
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The analogy of a computer suggests that they are the programming. But we know they are more than that.
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redgreenvines
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deathlyoctopusman said: Are we not what we do?
yes, but also our history is us
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“Q.= WHO AM I? WHO ARE YOU?
U.G = You are what you are doing RIGHT NOW!”
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