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Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries?
    #26863415 - 08/04/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys,

Haven't been on here in awhile. Years, in fact. I've discovered that many vendors are now offering pre-sterilized spawn, e.g., sterilized rye berries w/ spawning bag.

Given how much work sterilization is, I'd love to skip that step and go with pre-sterilized rye if it's actually good. I've explored several of the Shroomery's sponsors and the vendor list, but I was wondering if someone with experience could point me in the right direction. Which vendor is generally considered to be the most reliable when it comes to pre-sterilized spawn?

Thanks everyone! It's a little intimidating relearning all of this, so any and all help is very much appreciated :smile:


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: psychoanomaly] * 1
    #26863418 - 08/04/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I would go with presto. Some people like All American though


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: psychoanomaly]
    #26863422 - 08/04/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

psychoanomaly said:


Given how much work sterilization is...




Depends on your definition of work, I barely notice.


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 1
    #26863434 - 08/04/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

All pros use Uncle Bens rice.


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26863517 - 08/04/20 09:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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I would go with presto. Some people like All American though




Hm, are those just vendors for straight rye berries, or pre-sterilized rye in spawn bags? A quick Google search suggests the former, but I'm looking for the latter.

Thanks for the quick response!


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: psychoanomaly]
    #26863523 - 08/04/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

For example, are these guys considered a reliable source? This is what I'm looking for, anyway:

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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: psychoanomaly] * 1
    #26863626 - 08/04/20 11:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Presto and All American are pressure cooker brands. What Bod's suggesting is to DIY, honestly very few people buy pre-sterilized grain unless it's some kind of grow kit. It's impossible to know how they sterilized them and how long they've been sitting in storage. Also many, many, many times more expensive. I'd say your guess is as good as ours.


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: Rapjack]
    #26863736 - 08/05/20 02:14 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

remove vendors names its against the rules !!


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: psychoanomaly]
    #26863776 - 08/05/20 03:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

those are well known for being one of the worst in the industry afaik. just get yourself a pc and some grains and do it yourself.


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: southbounpachyderm]
    #26863821 - 08/05/20 05:40 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

lol ya that place is total garbage i dont think ive ever even heard one person say they had good results. they r just fly by night rip off artists


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: psychoanomaly] * 1
    #26863828 - 08/05/20 05:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It's honestly retarded simple. Boil wheat for ~25 mins, strain and let sit for 45 mins until grain surface is dry to touch, load into jars an pc for 2 hours.


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26863834 - 08/05/20 06:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

thanks for temoving👍😃😃 but before others go posting vendors names in here based on the title just a reminder that its against the rules and if u wanna talk about vendors then go to the sponsors forum


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26863918 - 08/05/20 07:28 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

The gist of all these posts I think is basically “no, there are no good vendors for pre sterilized grain”

Lol. There might be some but it’s hard to say, I’ve never ordered pre sterilized stuff but 90% of the posts I’ve seen where someone did were “what’s wrong with my rye bag?” And pictures of a nasty bag of dark grain with bacterial slime everywhere or mold growing and them asking if it’s possible to have cube mycelium without inoculating yet.

A lot of those people also used a spore syringe to a multi quart grain bag which in itself is a recipe for disaster so that may be the main culprit but that’s the thing with pre prepped stuff. If you have problems you can’t tell where the issue was made and fix it.

If you have a PC you should definitely prep your own, and buy in bulk from a grain supplier of some kind or just get Pennington classic WBS at Walmart. Mad cheap and works great and simple to prep with Fooman’s method or no prep.

If you don’t have a PC they are tough to find right now from what I’m seeing on here so maybe you can test the pre sterilized grain market and see who’s legit.


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26863999 - 08/05/20 08:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

and pay 120$ before shipping for a dozen jars lol fuck that shit id rather run thru a cornfield backwards and naked fuck that shit


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    #26864015 - 08/05/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

there is honestly only 1 place id tell someone to try if they absolutely refuse to do it on their own but i still wouldnt say they will be 100% good. point is u just have no control and anything can also happen point a to point b and i dont like the idea of grian bags/jars sitting in a hot ass mail truck fur a week before even getting it


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26864510 - 08/05/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Another point worth mentioning—the USPS is currently overwhelmed in a lot of regions, and packages are taking longer than just a few days to get through the mail. I don't like the idea of a bag of spawn festering in a 95 degree mailing facility for days before it gets to me...

I'm just starting out, and a few months ago I ordered a few pre-sterilized grain bags from a trusted supplier. Out of four, one had a faulty injection port that didn't self-heal. The supplier was great and sent a new bag fairly quickly, but USPS lost it in the mail. 
:facepalm3: 
Instead of trying to chase down that package, I just got me a big bag of whole oats and I'm never looking back... :sunny:


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: redbee]
    #26864531 - 08/05/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

maybe u should read b4 saying the exact same thing i did lol


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26865070 - 08/05/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ah, you totally did call out the mail thing. I missed that last part of your post! Well, OP, there you have it...


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: redbee]
    #26869355 - 08/08/20 12:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the replies guys, sorry for mentioning a vendor.

I'm in a bit of a rush, but I've got a nice PC and ya'll have convinced me to sterilize myself.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a quality tek for using rye berry spawn sterilized in grain bags w/ inoculation ports?

I've always used quart jars in the past, but it seems like bags are easier to work with. It's been a few years and I'm real rusty, so apologies for my ignorance.


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Re: Reliable/best vendor for sterilized rye berries? [Re: psychoanomaly]
    #26869369 - 08/08/20 01:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

bags are in my opinion not easier to work with. i have always had issues with bags and had a higher contam rate. i came to the conclusion that since i grow on such a small scale that im just sticking with jars for 1. they are way easier to pc. and 2. i use agar wedges to knock up my grain with. while it can be done witb bags i just find it way easier to do in jars both for running in the pc and for inoculation.

now im not sure what inoculant you will be using cuz you said with an injection port. so i just wanted to say again that spores to grain is a bad idea. almost all spores are dirty to some extent and even syringes from top notch vendors will often contain bacteria and molds. while it can work and ive done it several times myself its just way way more risky is all. your best bet would be to start from a print and streak agar plates and ensure that you have a good strong and clean culture to start with. clean spawn is the number 1 thing needed for a good grow. while syringes will still work with agar its just more of a mess usually is all. now heres a pic ive posted a million times but its a good example of why you wanna go to agar first and this syringe even came from what almost everyone will agree is the best spore vendor there is.



so even tho its an extra step that you may not have planned for you really should consider using agar first.

now if your intention was to use agar and knock up a LC to inject then i am sorry for assuming that you were gnna just shoot spores into some grain bags. its just usually thats tbe case when ppl are talking about buying pre made stuff.


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