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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: PumpJackTeX]
    #26869406 - 08/08/20 02:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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USA needs to give them no less than 1 billion dollars.



I say put our top dollar miltary to good use and put real boots on the ground and help rebuild it. Rebuild it in the American vision of freedom safety and liberty in a caring tolerant nation like we have here.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26869442 - 08/08/20 03:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Lights on the wall 5 million dollars what a lovely empty gesture did u see the damage?




Empty gestures compared to what the richest country in the world did? So far, Trump sent good wishes.

Let's remember that Lebanon is Israel's enemy, and if the Israeli right wing (Netanyahu's son actually) had a problem with what the Tel Aviv mayor did, I don't see trump helping them.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: koods]
    #26869446 - 08/08/20 03:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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koods said:
Canadian dollars




Must be. So three quarters of 5 million. At least they didn't send them liras or pesos.
LOL, I had to look up how to spell lira, and they don't have them anymore. It's all EU money.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26869840 - 08/08/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I guess if your explosion is big enough it looks like a nuke





How are Israeli-Lebanese relations these days?




They're still enemies, but the mayor of Tel Aviv projected the flag of Lebanon onto the city hall building after this happened saying "humanity comes before any conflict".

Canada just sent Lebanon 5 million dollars in humanitarian aid.



I don't really think Israel was responsible (though who knows.) And if they were, it can't have been a nuke or the evidence would be undeniable.

Just as kind of a thought experiment though I wonder "If they were responsible, why now?" And so far I'm not getting the impression that any compelling explanation exists for the "why now".


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: psi]
    #26869862 - 08/08/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Iran proxy Hezbollah and Israel are enemies - not Lebanon and Israel. Not that the national relations are exactly friendly.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: twighead] * 1
    #26869870 - 08/08/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Any u guys remember 30 - 40 years ago good red hash used to come out of Lebanon :gethigh:


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #26869875 - 08/08/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I always wanted to check out the forests of Lebanon but charts like this would make me want to hide my identity :lol:



(Isn't it funny that the US likes Christians more than Israel likes Jews :lolsy:)


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: twighead]
    #26869948 - 08/08/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Looks like the mainstream media are working correctly everywhere. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Srirachi]
    #26874882 - 08/11/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I'll bet my next paycheck that this was a military operation against a bombmaking factory. There are a few things you can determine from the video. The airblast is clearly visible, and you can infer the decomposition velocity of the explosive that detonated using scale indicators like cars. It wasn't ammonium nitrate (which is actually not explosive on its own, it's just a very potent oxidizer) as the official story of "we forgot to dispose of the nitrates we impounded". The fireworks factory story is slightly more credible, because flash powder is possibly the most terrifying explosive ever devised. Still, makes it extremely unlikely that this was an above ground explosion.




So, I wrote this on Friday, and the linked article was published on Saturday.

https://english.aawsat.com/home/article/2436446/italian-expert-believes-arms-depot-was-site-beirut-blast

A more recent article from Daily Mail:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8611201/Explosives-expert-claims-Beirut-blast-caused-burning-military-missiles-not-ammonium-nitrate.html

"There should have been a catalyst, because otherwise it wouldn't all have exploded together."

So to recap, here's the people who believe the official story:

The media
Asante
Koods


The people who don't believe the official story:

People with actual hands-on experience with explosives

:biggrin:


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Srirachi]
    #26874922 - 08/11/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

:booooom:


...:jokerclap:


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Srirachi] * 1
    #26874923 - 08/11/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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"There should have been a catalyst, because otherwise it wouldn't all have exploded together."




Large stores of ammonium nitrate have detonated many times in the past. There is nothing special about this case except the idiots decided to store it in the middle of a city


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: koods]
    #26875005 - 08/11/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'll let Daily Mail know that you've debunked their Italian explosives expert.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Srirachi]
    #26875310 - 08/11/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It wasn’t hard


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Srirachi]
    #26875391 - 08/11/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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"There should have been a catalyst, because otherwise it wouldn't all have exploded together."




Large stores of ammonium nitrate have detonated many times in the past. There is nothing special about this case except the idiots decided to store it in the middle of a city



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Srirachi said:
I'll let Daily Mail know that you've debunked their Italian explosives expert.





Koods states fact. Amonium nitrate's history is filled with accidents just like this.

Experts are just educated people with educated opinions, experts are flat out wrong all the time.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Srirachi]
    #26875393 - 08/11/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Srirachi said:
I'll let Daily Mail know that you've debunked their Italian explosives expert.



You would think nearly every explosives expert would be saying what this one Italian one is saying.
But most are saying that AN is explosive by itself in the circumstances it was stored in when exposed to fire


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26875459 - 08/11/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

As Koods earlier in the discussion stated:

In the blasting agent ANFO (used in rock blasting) you have ammonium nitrate and fuel oil. It ois the ammonium nitrate itself that detonates, the fuel oil only adds power and ease to the detonation. But, it in itself is a substance that can detonate under the wrong circumstances.

Its very well known that those circumstances, though rare, most readily occur in huge piles of the stuff where tons of weight selfconfine it

All ammonium nitrate accidents teach us that we just shouldnt treat AN as if its nonexplosive because that leads to casual industrial behavior that leads to accidents.

It just isnt rock salt or borax you can bulldoze into thousand ton piles awaiting shipment.

Its like ecstacy :xtc:, just because its very safe doesnt mean you should treat it like its M&Ms.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Asante]
    #26875473 - 08/11/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Well it certainly provides a better visual on what happened that fateful day in Oklahoma..


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26875481 - 08/11/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think if you look at what experts are doing, they're trying to explain how what they've been told happened could happen.

The President of Beirut says what I said.
https://indianexpress.com/article/world/beirut-blast-lebanon-president-foreign-interference-6544276/

You just won't get this on the news here. If you go outside the US borders, this is a common line of conversation right now.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Amanita86]
    #26875506 - 08/11/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I saw some footage from Beirut of three women near massive glass walls at the entrance to a building.
You see 2 men running and the women walking up to the glass to see what the commotion is.
Two of the women manage to step outside, but close the door on the third woman (I'm assuming the concierge).

Then the blast hits....

The instant this explosion occurred people started pointing fingers.
The account I saw the video from ,minutes after the blast, had already taken the assumption this was an attack by Israel.
I like my conspiracy theories man but lets try not to make assumptions yet.
Obviously there is a reason the ammonium nitrate was being held at the port for multiple years and I doubt it was to make themselves sitting ducks.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Srirachi]
    #26875513 - 08/11/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yes the world is full of conspiracy theorists

Maybe as you get older and more wise you’ll learn to not credit human intention for what can easily be explained by human folly


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