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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #26865816 - 08/06/20 04:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Sure thing


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #26865817 - 08/06/20 04:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

No, the video by The Guardian simply depicts the best footage of the Beirut explosion, without narrative.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26865906 - 08/06/20 07:14 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

When will you guys understand that steel beams can't melt jet fuel!!!


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Patlal]
    #26866737 - 08/06/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ah, but can they explode it?
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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #26866742 - 08/06/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Doubt its nitrates

Defo not fuckin fireworks



I donno man, 2750 tons of nitrates as is claimed - is pretty fucking big and more explosive power than just about any conventional weapon that could've possibly been dropped - or sent via missile. So unless a big ass bomber was flying overhead - then I think it's a bullshit claim that it was an aerial bomb.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: twighead]
    #26866774 - 08/06/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

A friend of mine had a conspiracy theory that it was in fact a small nuke.

I explained to him that a small nuke of that size would act as a neutron bomb, so that in an area about a mile across most people would die from radiation poisoning. That most certainly would not escape attention, not to mention the atrocious fallout as it was a surface blast. On top of that, the flash of light would have been utterly stupendous, which it wasnt. You would have so many burn victims many of whom very sick with radiation sickness. A nuke is a million times hotter than explosives, basically put.

Since today is Hiroshima day, it was about 1/10 the size of that blast.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Asante]
    #26866799 - 08/06/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Just saw this today. Awesome awesome stuff.

Fireworks huh :whistling:


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26866818 - 08/06/20 04:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Really disappointed no one has found a way to blame this on America, yet.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26867713 - 08/07/20 06:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Asante said it all...


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #26867728 - 08/07/20 06:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

maybe they hit it with a fuel air bomb,

It must be the Iraelis.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Asante]
    #26867771 - 08/07/20 07:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'll bet my next paycheck that this was a military operation against a bombmaking factory. There are a few things you can determine from the video. The airblast is clearly visible, and you can infer the decomposition velocity of the explosive that detonated using scale indicators like cars. It wasn't ammonium nitrate (which is actually not explosive on its own, it's just a very potent oxidizer) as the official story of "we forgot to dispose of the nitrates we impounded". The fireworks factory story is slightly more credible, because flash powder is possibly the most terrifying explosive ever devised. Still, the 500-foot crater Newsweek is reporting makes it extremely unlikely that this was an above ground explosion.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Srirachi]
    #26867787 - 08/07/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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It wasn't ammonium nitrate (which is actually not explosive on its own





This ,mentality is why these accidents keep on happening.

Ammonium nitrate IS explosive on its own, poorly, but explosive.

The Nitric Acid as an oxidizer will oxidize the Ammonia as a fuel resulting in a relative potency of 0.42x TNT, even without added fuels.

NH4NO3 --burn or detonate!--> N2O + 2 H2O

Terrorist bomb making factories at best have a few tons of boom powder, not thousands of tons, and it takes a nuke to cause an explosion with this yield that can be dropped from a plane.

The heaviest bombers have like 1/100 this capacity


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Asante]
    #26867801 - 08/07/20 07:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #26867818 - 08/07/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

This something conspiracy theorists will be masturbating about for years.

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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Gypsy Boy]
    #26867819 - 08/07/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yah but that doesn't mean the Israelis didn't want it all blown to smithereens. Isn't that where a bunch of terrorists get thier munitions? Weren't they shoving some this shit into homemade tube rockets and shit. Idk maybe dont shoot missles at ppl and talk shit about blowing up Israeli fertilizer depots and you won't have bad industrial accidents :shrug:


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Asante]
    #26867853 - 08/07/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I understand what you're saying, and the fire certainly could have degraded the ammonium nitrate, so let's skip that part and say I was technically incorrect and ammonium nitrate is an explosive by itself. I disagree, only in the most ideal of circumstances can ammonium nitrate detonate without a fuel source, and you can hit it with a hammer if you want without it detonating, but you have a valid point and that is undeniable. Unlikely, but so was this explosion, so I guess it can't be discounted.

So, are you saying you support the small nuke theory?


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: Srirachi]
    #26867879 - 08/07/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think he's saying that at all, he's saying that if it was a nuke then the evidence (radiation) would be very clear cut.


For the sake of argument though, Israel does have nuclear armed subs, not just bombers.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: koods]
    #26867936 - 08/07/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Just pointing out I called it within minutes of seeing the video :smug:

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koods said:
Based on the color of the smoke, this was almost certainly caused by a nitrate compound. Probbaly ammonium nitrate fertilizer stored in a warehouse or on a ship. Same thing happened in Texas a few years ago.




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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: psi]
    #26867938 - 08/07/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Why use a bomb when they have a pile of shit just sitting there waiting to go off. Sabatoge that and bam problem solved. Wash the hands on to the next one.


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Re: Massive explosion in the Port of Beruit. Incredible video. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26867945 - 08/07/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
Why use a bomb when they have a pile of shit just sitting there waiting to go off. Sabatoge that and bam problem solved. Wash the hands on to the next one.




Except there was clearly a fire before hand. If you want to detonate a pile of ammonium nitrate you don’t set it on fire first. Fire is not a good way to detonate it. You use a detonator or another smaller bomb .


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