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Admitting your white privilige
#26861859 - 08/04/20 12:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Have you discussed your white privilege to family and friends? Have you talked with a person of color about it? If you haven't why not?
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Billy Ray] 2
#26861862 - 08/04/20 12:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You got some bro I'll take some if you have some leftover, thanks.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Billy Ray] 2
#26861885 - 08/04/20 01:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Billy Ray said: Have you talked with a person of color about it?
Lol, because I'm sure the number one thing any person of color wants is to take time out of their day to listen to some random white person apologize for racism.
Yeah, there's a lot of fucked up shit going on in the world, but self-flagellating isn't going to fix any of it. The problem is not, and never has been, individual white people. Go start a community garden or some shit, that'll do a lot more good than virtue signalling to your friends and family.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: turbulentflow] 2
#26862068 - 08/04/20 06:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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But dude, as a white person who wasn't born with money, I don't have any privilege.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: christopera]
#26862181 - 08/04/20 08:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I do admit it feels amazing when I go buy band-aids and I can be sure that they’ll match my skin color. Fucking love that shit
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Re: Admitting your white privilege [Re: Complexicated] 2
#26862208 - 08/04/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sure, let's also address first world standard of living privilege. Why doesn't anyone want to address the real inequality taking place in the world today?
The fact of the matter is this 'privilege' narrative never has an ending and it's cherry-picked for political purposes, and doesn't serve any useful purpose.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: christopera] 2
#26862232 - 08/04/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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christopera said: But dude, as a white person who wasn't born with money, I don't have any privilege.
If you were a black person who wasnt born with any money, other circumstances being the same, you would be worse off still.
The discrepancy is privilege.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Asante] 1
#26862260 - 08/04/20 09:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't think it serves much purpose to talk about your privilege to someone else. I think it CAN have a positive impact if you acknowledge to yourself that your unique life circumstances may have given you many advantages over others who grew up and live in different circumstances.
It's always good to remember, before you form an opinion of someone else's actions or choices, that you don't know what their circumstances have been.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: the strander] 3
#26862277 - 08/04/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not discussing it hasn't done much good, though. In fact, many people deny its existence. Discussing it will at least raise awareness. Also, I think a lot of people conflate the notion of white privilege with white guilt, and I think that error can be corrected through discussions as well.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: the strander]
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christopera said: But dude, as a white person who wasn't born with money, I don't have any privilege.
If you were a black person who wasnt born with any money, other circumstances being the same, you would be worse off still.
The discrepancy is privilege.
I was being flippant. I live in a very black neighborhood. I saw 10 cop cars pull a black guy over the other day. The car was searched, the dude was cuffed immediately. Meanwhile, when it's a white dude it's one cop and they give him a warning.
It's just a shame I wasn't born richer than black people, I don't get none of that white privilege.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: christopera]
#26862287 - 08/04/20 09:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Of course you do. You just said that you get treated differently when being pulled over. Privilege doesn't always mean wealth. If it did, we wouldn't need two different words.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Enlil]
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Flippant, again.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: christopera]
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I knew that. There are others in this thread, however, that actually believe what you said literally.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Enlil]
#26862329 - 08/04/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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What about female privilege when it comes to the criminal justice system? What about Jewish economic privilege? What about good looking privilege? This privilege narrative never ends.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: qman]
#26862332 - 08/04/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're free to make threads about each of those as well. This thread is about white privilege.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Billy Ray]
#26872605 - 08/10/20 01:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I guarantee "admitting your white privilege" is the name of a college course taught by some Marxist.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: 1uptoadstool]
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It doesn't have to be a marxist. Any college professor could easily teach that.
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White privilege isn't all a myth, just grossly exaggerated relative to the average white person and average black person.
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I guess but "white privilege" is a term used in Critical Theory which is a marxist critique of society.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Vahn421] 1
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Vahn421 said: White privilege isn't all a myth, just grossly exaggerated relative to the average white person and average black person.
And more importantly, it's the ultimate distraction to the massive economic classism that's taking place today. When income and wealth inequality is at a 100 year high, I don't blame The Elite for spewing the white privilege narrative as much as they can because it works on an uninformed population.
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I guess but "white privilege" is a term used in Critical Theory which is a marxist critique of society.
Who cares? Marxism has zero relevance in American society
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: koods]
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I guess but "white privilege" is a term used in Critical Theory which is a marxist critique of society.
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I guess but "white privilege" is a term used in Critical Theory which is a marxist critique of society.
Who cares? Marxism has zero relevance in American society
Somewhat, but it has an enormous hold on academic social thought. But it's not the kind of Marxism you learn about in undergraduate college. It has less to do with economics and more to do with cultural studies. In the last 40 years academic Marxism is mostly filtered through postmodern social theory and it is more likely to come out of English and Communications Departments than Sociology or Political Science, and particularly not Economics.
I can tell you this with absolute certainty. None of these critical/postmodern theory people could relate to topics frequently mentioned here like intellectual honesty/dishonesty or the concept of "the truth", which they view as relics of a bygone era. There is no truth. There is only interpretation. This didn't start with postmodernism. It was already there in Herbert Blumer's symbolic interactionism at the University of Chicago in the 20' and 30's (reality is a social construction), and Sartre's and Camus' French existentialism at the end of the war.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: qman]
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Vahn421 said: White privilege isn't all a myth, just grossly exaggerated relative to the average white person and average black person.
And more importantly, it's the ultimate distraction to the massive economic classism that's taking place today. When income and wealth inequality is at a 100 year high, I don't blame The Elite for spewing the white privilege narrative as much as they can because it works on an uninformed population.
Race and class have been closely tied in America since day one. A poor white family still has it better on average than a poor black family thanks to mechanisms like redlining which although recently made "illegal" is still being done by banks. The goal is to create an underclass of cheap and forced labor. White people have it worse than before but not as bad as it's already been for other races.
"Ultimate distraction" is a loaded term, there's many distractions that elites place in front of us. We could talk all day about which one we think is the most distracting but it'd just be us sharing our opinions.
The inequality issue is huge and is the sort of thing that makes civilizations fall. Looking at you, Western Roman Empire.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Rapjack]
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Here's a question.
Sooner or later, white privilege, what little there actually is left of it, will indeed go away, if only because white people stopped breeding.
Do you think society will recognize when that time comes and drop the narrative, or do you think they'll keep going and turn white people into the lowest class citizens in society?
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Rapjack] 2
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Vahn421 said: White privilege isn't all a myth, just grossly exaggerated relative to the average white person and average black person.
And more importantly, it's the ultimate distraction to the massive economic classism that's taking place today. When income and wealth inequality is at a 100 year high, I don't blame The Elite for spewing the white privilege narrative as much as they can because it works on an uninformed population.
Race and class have been closely tied in America since day one. A poor white family still has it better on average than a poor black family thanks to mechanisms like redlining which although recently made "illegal" is still being done by banks. The goal is to create an underclass of cheap and forced labor. White people have it worse than before but not as bad as it's already been for other races.
"Ultimate distraction" is a loaded term, there's many distractions that elites place in front of us. We could talk all day about which one we think is the most distracting but it'd just be us sharing our opinions.
The inequality issue is huge and is the sort of thing that makes civilizations fall. Looking at you, Western Roman Empire.
No one is denying the now small difference of median wealth/income of whites relative to blacks, but on a relative basis to rich vs poor, it's extremely minuscule.
The wealth inequality is huge today, but the race inequality isn't anywhere close it.
The Elite will continue to push the race narrative to distract from the wealth inequality. The general public is too stupid to realize they're being suckered.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: qman]
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Vahn421 said: White privilege isn't all a myth, just grossly exaggerated relative to the average white person and average black person.
And more importantly, it's the ultimate distraction to the massive economic classism that's taking place today. When income and wealth inequality is at a 100 year high, I don't blame The Elite for spewing the white privilege narrative as much as they can because it works on an uninformed population.

Race and class have been closely tied in America since day one. A poor white family still has it better on average than a poor black family thanks to mechanisms like redlining which although recently made "illegal" is still being done by banks. The goal is to create an underclass of cheap and forced labor. White people have it worse than before but not as bad as it's already been for other races.
"Ultimate distraction" is a loaded term, there's many distractions that elites place in front of us. We could talk all day about which one we think is the most distracting but it'd just be us sharing our opinions.
The inequality issue is huge and is the sort of thing that makes civilizations fall. Looking at you, Western Roman Empire.
No one is denying the now small difference of median wealth/income of whites relative to blacks, but on a relative basis to rich vs poor, it's extremely minuscule.
The wealth inequality is huge today, but the race inequality isn't anywhere close it.
The Elite will continue to push the race narrative to distract from the wealth inequality. The general public is too stupid to realize they're being suckered.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Vahn421]
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Sooner or later, white privilege, what little there actually is left of it, will indeed go away, if only because white people stopped breeding.
Do you think society will recognize when that time comes and drop the narrative, or do you think they'll keep going and turn white people into the lowest class citizens in society?
As long as whites are a majority demographic, they will remain under attack.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: qman] 2
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Under attack ? Ya I’m white and I’m not feeling it , seems like racist white assholes are under attack , it’s not all white people though .
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26873092 - 08/10/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: White privilege isn't all a myth, just grossly exaggerated relative to the average white person and average black person.
I don't know if you ever ran into a poster named XUL, but he thought he'd be a smart ass and said this:
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XUL said: Nobody in this thread has proven white privilege exists. Nobody offered an alpha level, methodology, results, or bothered to explain even one study.
So he was given this, showing with 99.99% confidence that white privilege exists, because white sounding names received 50 percent more callbacks for interviews than black sounding names with IDENTICAL resumes.
That's pretty significant if you ask me.
Though I also agree with qman that inequality between the extremely wealthy and the rest of us is an even more important issue, but maybe that's because I'm white.
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If you want one specific study, just take a look at Enlil's post (as just one of MANY examples). It links to a study showing that white sounding names receive 50 percent more callbacks for interviews than black sounding names. The p-value for this study based on the study's sample size of 2445 resumes is 0.0000 (Table 1). That means there is >99.99% confidence of white privilege.
As a business owner I actually have a counter-argument to this.
I've worked with and bumped heads with enough people to know that certain demographics in certain areas wind up getting fired or quitting more often than others do. If you're talking calculated risks for hiring new people and you can increase your chances of your new employees not getting fired or quitting from say 70% to 85%, you're going to make adjustments to who you hire. You're going to discriminate.
I don't find this immoral. I find it amoral. If your goal as a business is to maximize your profits, strategically there is logic behind studying demographics IF there are any differences to be found.
Now, if there isn't differences to be found, it could be chalked up as racism. But some demographics, at least in some areas of the nation, wind up getting fired or quitting more often than others. At least to the personal experience of many business owners.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Vahn421]
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I've worked with and bumped heads with enough people to know that certain demographics in certain areas wind up getting fired or quitting more often than others do. If you're talking calculated risks for hiring new people and you can increase your chances of your new employees not getting fired or quitting from say 70% to 85%, you're going to make adjustments to who you hire. You're going to discriminate.
I don't find this immoral. I find it amoral. If your goal as a business is to maximize your profits, strategically there is logic behind studying demographics IF there are any differences to be found.
So now you've just admitted in no uncertain terms that white privilege exists.
If people have identical resumes, you can't KNOW for certain that the white candidate is better than the black candidate; that's an assumption you make, and that's white privilege.
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Oh wait, are you just talking about NAMES? Like anonymous names? I may have misread then.
EDIT: I'm definitely saying businesses discriminate on race in order to maximize their profits. I've never done it my self, but I've observed it being done. However, I don't know if I could call it "white privilege" when in some cases Asians have been prioritized.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Vahn421]
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Black sounding names, yes.
You just gave a business reason why you'd favor whites in the hiring process. But you favoring whites IS white privilege.
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I actually didn't say whites, I said most capable demographic, *if* there happens to be one. (Sometimes there is not.) Some businesses keep track of that shit. 
Asians seem to almost always lead the tech curve, as the best example I can use without getting shot around here.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Vahn421]
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Also, the NBA is what, 80% black?
Business decisions, man.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Vahn421]
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But the NBA hires based on proven talent. You select unknown hires based on race. You just admitted it.
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Put another way, your basketball example would be like being asked to select a street basketball team from a random group of people. You're saying you would select the black athletes because statistically you think they might be better, but you can't know that until you see them play.
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Sooner or later, white privilege, what little there actually is left of it, will indeed go away, if only because white people stopped breeding.
Do you think society will recognize when that time comes and drop the narrative, or do you think they'll keep going and turn white people into the lowest class citizens in society?
As long as whites are a majority demographic, they will remain under attack.
Correction: Working and middle class whites are under attack, along with everyone else. Upper mid and above are doing decent, and ultra wealthy whites are doing better than they have been since the anti-trust laws were enacted.
The wording you're using is implying there's a genocide or racial oppression of white people happening and that's just not true. Last I checked white men still controlled most of the money and positions power in the US.
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Business decisions, man.
In poor black inner city culture excelling at sports is one of the few ways out of the hood if you're not among the top percentage academically. It's the most accessible way for a black man to get a scholarship and through that build intergenerational wealth. There are more black pro basketball players because there's more black men playing basketball seriously in general. Just like how most professional golfers are caucasian.
So yeah, it is a business decision in the sense that you want to hire the best you have available.
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Why do people find it so hard admitting their white privilege?
Its both blatant and obvious.
Toggling races between people in the same circumstances makes an enormous difference.
You could fill a sizable book with things that are viewed or handled differently depending on whether you are black or white.
That manual that people use based on your skin color has nothing to do with anything that you represent, just your physical appearance.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: But the NBA hires based on proven talent. You select unknown hires based on race. You just admitted it.
I can see the difference you're making, and I already admitted that I've observed that some businesses definitely discriminate based on race because it's part of their successful formula for maximizing profits. I have not done this my self nor would I really care to as I don't find discriminating to squeeze out an extra 1.5% profit to be something I'd feel good doing, but there is a mathematical reality that exists in these calculations increasing revenue in some businesses around the country.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Vahn421]
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Vahn421 said: I already admitted that I've observed that some businesses definitely discriminate based on race because it's part of their successful formula for maximizing profits.
And that is white privilege.
Businesses can't possibly KNOW whether a white person with an equal resume to a black person is better.
We see white people in the NBA, because we KNOW a lot white people have enough talent, even if they're statistically less likely to make it. Luckily, the NBA KNOWS people's talent before selecting them, so the best people should make it there.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Asante] 1
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Asante said: Why do people find it so hard admitting their white privilege?
That's the nature of privilege. It's the things someone doesn't need to think or worry about. Those that are deep enough in it are unable to perceive its effects, so they assume that's just how it works for everyone.
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Vahn421 said: I already admitted that I've observed that some businesses definitely discriminate based on race because it's part of their successful formula for maximizing profits.
And that is white privilege.
Businesses can't possibly KNOW whether a white person with an equal resume to a black person is better.
We see white people in the NBA, because we KNOW a lot white people have enough talent, even if they're statistically less likely to make it. Luckily, the NBA KNOWS people's talent before selecting them, so the best people should make it there.
It definitely is in some cases, I'm just arguing that it may not be in all of them... especially when someone decides to hire Chen Yao and Seung Jung instead of Bob Anderson and Brady Smith. In that case we may have to redefine what kind of privilege it is.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Asante] 2
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Its both blatant and obvious.
It's hard to admit white privilege because the bartenders don't go "Hey! you're white, the beer is on the house". Cops don't extra not arrest me. Nobody is giving free money on the account that I'm white.
It's not obvious for white people that they get treated better. It's definitely obvious for black people to know they are treat worse.
We call it white privilege in order to be polite. What it should be called is the black handicap. But that sounds raqcist...
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Patlal]
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Kinda sounds like like your trying to blame black people for the flawed concept of white privilege existing . That would be racist , AF.
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Vahn421 said: I already admitted that I've observed that some businesses definitely discriminate based on race because it's part of their successful formula for maximizing profits.
And that is white privilege.
Businesses can't possibly KNOW whether a white person with an equal resume to a black person is better.
We see white people in the NBA, because we KNOW a lot white people have enough talent, even if they're statistically less likely to make it. Luckily, the NBA KNOWS people's talent before selecting them, so the best people should make it there.
It definitely is in some cases, I'm just arguing that it may not be in all of them... especially when someone decides to hire Chen Yao and Seung Jung instead of Bob Anderson and Brady Smith. In that case we may have to redefine what kind of privilege it is.
There are a lot of Asians in tech and science because a lot of Asian families / cultures push their kids to pursue it, same reason there's a lot of black men in the NBA. It's another culturally emphasized skill that's encouraged from childhood and seen as a path to upward mobility.
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Show a study proving there's a bias here. We already know with 99.99% certainty that employers discriminate against black sounding names.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Rapjack]
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I think the point is that every countries natives will get treated better than foreigners. Thats just the way humans work. Id challenge any user to find a country where foreigners are treated just as well or better than the native population
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: MagicMush123]
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Most of North America, where illegal immigrants wiped out most of the native population with disease and now run things. The natives are still there, just living in poverty away from everyone else.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Rapjack]
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Most of North America, where illegal immigrants wiped out most of the native population with disease and now run things. The natives are still there, just living in poverty away from everyone else.
Colonialists weren't immigrants though.
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Psilynut2 said: Under attack ? Ya I’m white and I’m not feeling it , seems like racist white assholes are under attack , it’s not all white people though .
The Jewish media cherry picks it stories to push certain narratives that usually have whites looking bad while simultaneously ignoring the same behavior from non-whites. That's attacking a certain demographic.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Black sounding names, yes.
You just gave a business reason why you'd favor whites in the hiring process. But you favoring whites IS white privilege.
Many times there's geographical privilege when it comes to hiring people, yet there's not outrage about it.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: qman]
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You just gave a business reason why you'd favor whites in the hiring process. But you favoring whites IS white privilege.
Many times there's geographical privilege when it comes to hiring people, yet there's not outrage about it.
There's also female privilege. There's many forms of privilege yet people only want to talk white men and their unfair advantage
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Asante]
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Asante said: Why do people find it so hard admitting their white privilege?
Its both blatant and obvious.
Toggling races between people in the same circumstances makes an enormous difference.
You could fill a sizable book with things that are viewed or handled differently depending on whether you are black or white.
That manual that people use based on your skin color has nothing to do with anything that you represent, just your physical appearance.
Many don't have an issue with admitting it, but they take issue with ignoring the other aspects of privilege that exist in society. In other words, constantly screaming about white privilege while ignoring age, female, religious, sexuality and wealth privilege is disingenuous in nature.
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Show a study proving there's a bias here. We already know with 99.99% certainty that employers discriminate against black sounding names.
I was never disputing that, I was only giving an alternative as to the, "why." I'm also in agreement that in likely the majority of cases, the discrimination is emotionally founded (racist) and not mathematically calculated for profits. (amoral.)
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Vahn421 said: White privilege isn't all a myth, just grossly exaggerated relative to the average white person and average black person.
I don't know if you ever ran into a poster named XUL, but he thought he'd be a smart ass and said this:
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So he was given this, showing with 99.99% confidence that white privilege exists, because white sounding names received 50 percent more callbacks for interviews than black sounding names with IDENTICAL resumes.
That's pretty significant if you ask me.
Though I also agree with qman that inequality between the extremely wealthy and the rest of us is an even more important issue, but maybe that's because I'm white.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Rapjack]
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Vahn421 said: I already admitted that I've observed that some businesses definitely discriminate based on race because it's part of their successful formula for maximizing profits.
And that is white privilege.
Businesses can't possibly KNOW whether a white person with an equal resume to a black person is better.
We see white people in the NBA, because we KNOW a lot white people have enough talent, even if they're statistically less likely to make it. Luckily, the NBA KNOWS people's talent before selecting them, so the best people should make it there.
It definitely is in some cases, I'm just arguing that it may not be in all of them... especially when someone decides to hire Chen Yao and Seung Jung instead of Bob Anderson and Brady Smith. In that case we may have to redefine what kind of privilege it is.
There are a lot of Asians in tech and science because a lot of Asian families / cultures push their kids to pursue it, same reason there's a lot of black men in the NBA. It's another culturally emphasized skill that's encouraged from childhood and seen as a path to upward mobility.
That's pure speculation on your part and it's assuming 100% nurture and 0% nature. That's a closed minded approach to the outcome in my opinion because you're attempting to defend a worldview.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: qman] 1
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Asante said: Why do people find it so hard admitting their white privilege?
Its both blatant and obvious.
Toggling races between people in the same circumstances makes an enormous difference.
You could fill a sizable book with things that are viewed or handled differently depending on whether you are black or white.
That manual that people use based on your skin color has nothing to do with anything that you represent, just your physical appearance.
Many don't have an issue with admitting it, but they take issue with ignoring the other aspects of privilege that exist in society. In other words, constantly screaming about white privilege while ignoring age, female, religious, sexuality and wealth privilege is disingenuous in nature.
I completely agree with this. Using the white privilege card is becoming a slippery slope. Case in point, Devid Webb, a black guy, gets accused of of having white privilege for his success in radio and news by this black "legal analyst" while they were having a conversation over the phone. She was about ready to discredit his entire history of working hard, making sacrifices and getting ahead until she was corrected and told he was black.
And this is the problem with the white privilege narrative. If you want the sane and the rational on your side with it, we can't exaggerate this or assume it was white privilege in an *individual's* life, even if collectively happens around us sometimes.
Watch the backpedaling it's fascinating. (I couldn't find the original video on Youtube so I had to find a re-upload but the story was pretty big when it first happened.)
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: MagicMush123]
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Vahn421 said: White privilege isn't all a myth, just grossly exaggerated relative to the average white person and average black person.
I don't know if you ever ran into a poster named XUL, but he thought he'd be a smart ass and said this:
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XUL said: Nobody in this thread has proven white privilege exists. Nobody offered an alpha level, methodology, results, or bothered to explain even one study.
So he was given this, showing with 99.99% confidence that white privilege exists, because white sounding names received 50 percent more callbacks for interviews than black sounding names with IDENTICAL resumes.
That's pretty significant if you ask me.
Though I also agree with qman that inequality between the extremely wealthy and the rest of us is an even more important issue, but maybe that's because I'm white.
Whatever happened to xul?
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Billy Ray]
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White privilege doesn't exist. What you're actually describing is simply the absence of racism, which is not a form of privilege, but merely the absence of a thing. It is not the existence of a thing, but merely the removal of a thing.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: MagicMush123]
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We can talk about any of those you want to. I think white privilege is the only one people are denying.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Vahn421] 2
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Either way, it's an example of white privilege.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: qman] 2
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The Jewish media cherry picks it stories to push certain narratives that usually have whites looking bad while simultaneously ignoring the same behavior from non-whites. That's attacking a certain demographic.
If you are going to tell me white people , the whitest of the white , are attacking other whites then you need to tell me where they touched you and how . Or make a list of what the stole from you . To me some white people said some shit on the news that hurt my feelings or they don’t perceive shit the same as me doesn’t qualify as an attack .
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We can talk about any of those you want to. I think white privilege is the only one people are denying.
I think the push back arises from the constant narrative that's never put into the proper proportion while completely ignoring the many other aspects of privilege.
Anytime this privilege narrative is cherrypicked for political purposes, it's inevitable that a push back is going to occur.
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If you are going to tell me white people , the whitest of the white , are attacking other whites then you need to tell me where they touched you and how . Or make a list of what the stole from you . To me some white people said some shit on the news that hurt my feelings or they don’t perceive shit the same as me doesn’t qualify as an attack .
It's not my fault that you're completely oblivious to an agenda and then misinterpreted the results as pure coincidence.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Billy Ray]
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White privilege is a concept concocted by wealthy white people as a means of shitting on poor white people. Pretending all white people started out with some family fortunate passed down from the days of slavery.
Of course the people pushing this idea when shown evidence that's not the case will claim what it really means is they somehow know the whole of your life experience based on your skin color because everyone everywhere is racist, and racist in exactly same way. A white guy living in a black neighbor is treated as royalty by all.
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Kizzle said: White privilege is a concept concocted by wealthy white people as a means of shitting on poor white people. Pretending all white people started out with some family fortunate passed down from the days of slavery.
Completely misunderstanding the definition of white privilege while it has been pointed out several times in the thread is sloppy.
Its not about wealth, its about the racial appearance you make to someone and the benefit or detriment in how they judge or treat you based on that defines white privilege, not wealth.
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Which is exactly what I said in the second part. It's about how some people assume white people are treated based on their race and it's no different than jewish privilege or asian privilege or any other kind harmful stereotyping. Don't pretend people don't see what it really is just because you choose not to. I could talk about black criminality and justify it with a bunch of statistics and fill the rest in with assumption and it'd be the same thing. Ask someone to admit their black criminality and pretend that's going to be a step towards solving inequality. It's BS to pretend you know how society has treated an individual.
I've certainly experienced assimilated privilege. I speak the same dialect as the people around me, like Barack Obama when he's talking to white people. The more easily you can understand someone the easier it is to empathize with them.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Kizzle] 2
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Kizzle said: Which is exactly what I said in the second part. It's about how some people assume white people are treated based on their race and it's no different than jewish privilege or asian privilege or any other kind harmful stereotyping. Don't pretend people don't see what it really is just because you choose not to. I could talk about black criminality and justify it with a bunch of statistics and fill the rest in with assumption and it'd be the same thing. Ask someone to admit their black criminality and pretend that's going to be a step towards solving inequality. It's BS to pretend you know how society has treated an individual.
I've certainly experienced assimilated privilege. I speak the same dialect as the people around me, like Barack Obama when he's talking to white people. The more easily you can understand someone the easier it is to empathize with them.
I think you're misunderstanding what white privilege is, Kizzle. It's not a "harmful stereotyping", nor is it based on wealth (that's a different kind of privilege). Privilege is the things that a person never has to think or worry about.
Some examples: Am I talking white enough to not be seen as "other"? Should I change my name to help me get jobs? Is this police officer going to hurt me?
On top of that we've passed laws in the US specifically to hold back certain racial groups. From the Anti-Chinese Act to Segragation and more subtle but very damaging things like redlining (not a law anymore but banks still do it), the 10 to 1 crack / cocaine sentencing, or even the prohibition of cannabis and it's rebranding to "marijuana" (to mess with Mexicans).
The privilege comes from not having your government and larger society actively work against you because of what color your skin is.
You being white does not make you one of the oppressors, merely a beneficiary of said privilege.
Hopefully this helps you understand the concept more clearly.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Billy Ray]
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What is there to discuss, really?
I have privilege because I've earned it, privilege doesn't come without responsibility. End of discussion.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: MightyWhite] 1
#26876347 - 08/12/20 06:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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no there's a lot to talk about. why can't black people open carry in america
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: MightyWhite] 1
#26876580 - 08/12/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MightyWhite said: What is there to discuss, really?
I have privilege because I've earned it, privilege doesn't come without responsibility. End of discussion.
You earned being born white? Please explain.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: MightyWhite]
#26876661 - 08/12/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have privilege because I've earned it, privilege doesn't come without responsibility.
Ah, yes.... The white man's burden.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Enlil]
#26876691 - 08/12/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dare I say, plight. That shit is hard AF.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Rapjack]
#26876756 - 08/12/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Rapjack said:
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MightyWhite said: What is there to discuss, really?
I have privilege because I've earned it, privilege doesn't come without responsibility. End of discussion.
You earned being born white? Please explain.
No, privilege has nothing to do with my skin
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Enlil]
#26876763 - 08/12/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said:
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MightyWhite said:
I have privilege because I've earned it, privilege doesn't come without responsibility.
Ah, yes.... The white man's burden.
Yes, having privilege can sometimes be a burden. It has nothing to do with skin color, don't be a biggot Enlil, it's not a good look for you
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: MightyWhite]
#26876804 - 08/12/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MightyWhite said:
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Rapjack said: You earned being born white? Please explain.
No, privilege has nothing to do with my skin
You earned it because you have a white sounding name? Please explain.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: MightyWhite]
#26876902 - 08/12/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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biggot
The equivalent of drinking a cup with both hands.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Vahn421]
#26877077 - 08/12/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said:Sooner or later, white privilege, what little there actually is left of it, will indeed go away, if only because white people stopped breeding.
The idea that white people have stopped breeding is false.
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Maybe the last remaining white people can be put in a petting zoo and encouraged to mate, like with pandas.
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: MightyWhite] 1
#26877354 - 08/12/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MightyWhite said:
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Enlil said:
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MightyWhite said:
I have privilege because I've earned it, privilege doesn't come without responsibility.
Ah, yes.... The white man's burden.
Yes, having privilege can sometimes be a burden. It has nothing to do with skin color, don't be a biggot Enlil, it's not a good look for you
Some privilege is based on skin color. Some is not. Acknowledging that doesn't make one a bigot
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Re: Admitting your white privilige [Re: Rapjack]
#26877471 - 08/12/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kizzle said: Which is exactly what I said in the second part. It's about how some people assume white people are treated based on their race and it's no different than jewish privilege or asian privilege or any other kind harmful stereotyping. Don't pretend people don't see what it really is just because you choose not to. I could talk about black criminality and justify it with a bunch of statistics and fill the rest in with assumption and it'd be the same thing. Ask someone to admit their black criminality and pretend that's going to be a step towards solving inequality. It's BS to pretend you know how society has treated an individual.
I've certainly experienced assimilated privilege. I speak the same dialect as the people around me, like Barack Obama when he's talking to white people. The more easily you can understand someone the easier it is to empathize with them.
I think you're misunderstanding what white privilege is, Kizzle. It's not a "harmful stereotyping", nor is it based on wealth (that's a different kind of privilege). Privilege is the things that a person never has to think or worry about.
Some examples: Am I talking white enough to not be seen as "other"? Should I change my name to help me get jobs? Is this police officer going to hurt me?
On top of that we've passed laws in the US specifically to hold back certain racial groups. From the Anti-Chinese Act to Segragation and more subtle but very damaging things like redlining (not a law anymore but banks still do it), the 10 to 1 crack / cocaine sentencing, or even the prohibition of cannabis and it's rebranding to "marijuana" (to mess with Mexicans).
The privilege comes from not having your government and larger society actively work against you because of what color your skin is.
You being white does not make you one of the oppressors, merely a beneficiary of said privilege.
Hopefully this helps you understand the concept more clearly.
But you don't know what I have or have not benefited from. You're just making assumptions. My being white helping me get a job or not get beaten by the police is only a benefit in a situation where it's actually true. No one has to worry about anything, what you're talking about there the privilege of believing something. All that matters is if that belief turns out to be justified and sometimes it may be but to pretend it always is wrong and destroys the notion that anything can change.
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