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OfflineRagoo0192
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26865540 - 08/05/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Cool story. That sub looks like my trash. I’d rather not dick around with Uncle Bens, Aunt Jemima, or Orville Redenbacher. I prefer to not need to saw chunks of mold out. While you’re messing around to salvage some junk, I want to be trying to figure out where to start harvesting the next canopy. I want 4 dehydrators running around the clock and a house that smells like feet.




I mean back at you I guess......cool story bro your house smells like that and you can do all that. Honestly mad props for being expert or whatever you deem yourself. But doesn’t mean you can’t have a canopy going and experiments too after your canopies or however you want to juggle it.
But your entitled to your opinion, but by no means is it law


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: LosTresOjos] * 1
    #26865560 - 08/05/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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LosTresOjos said:
Oh come now. You know one man's trash us another man's treasure... unfortunately.




But why would anyone settle for the trash tub above when you could have this



It’s not hard, it’s not even that expensive for the proper equipment either. Why are we peroxiding grows when we could just grow well? By the “one mans trash...” argument I could potentially find a market for my dogs shits. Only $15.99 a lb! Cheap!


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26865578 - 08/05/20 10:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Rampant contamination of someone’s apt, closet, etc is unnecessary and a pain in the ass to rectify. Telling folks H2O2 will solve their contamination issues in the manner you have done is irresponsible and dangerous. Most of us have toyed with peroxide for whatever reason and know it is not the answer to contamination. Put it in pitri dishes.. lol so it can spread the bacteria around? So it splashes out and takes with it the contamination? While we are at it let’s wipe our wet hands on our clothes and touch everything!  Yes! Hey grab the antibiotic ointment I have a brilliant idea!

Stop it.

Pasty nailed it - put your efforts into something else.

The feet thing made me shoot whiskey from my nose. 

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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Spaghettio73]
    #26865630 - 08/05/20 11:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Honestly it’s not like I’ve never fixed anything. I’ve salted lots of trich. I’ve told people how to do it so they can save a flush that’s coming in.  But it’s not a skill one should be looking to hone or advocating to people. It’s not a law, it’s just my opinion.


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26865691 - 08/06/20 12:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Honestly it’s not like I’ve never fixed anything. I’ve salted lots of trich. I’ve told people how to do it so they can save a flush that’s coming in.  But it’s not a skill one should be looking to hone or advocating to people. It’s not a law, it’s just my opinion.




Well yeah I’m not going with OP and soaking that shit or giving it the thought. I’m just saying after my 3rd flush in my sub that you called trash, I mean after that 3rd flush it wasn’t anything but trash soon to be gone anyways, so I experimented. I used some peroxide to try to help but it was obv inevitable. But before I put it in the dirtI felt like doing that. So I get your drift. No reason to do this if you can be clean from the get go. I’m more so meaning when all that’s left is a super shrunk sub holding on after a few flushes. Why not experiment?


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Ragoo0192]
    #26865708 - 08/06/20 12:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I don’t really consider using peroxide to coax a few fruits out an experiment :shrug: contamination isn’t something to play around with IMO.


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26865746 - 08/06/20 01:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm wondering how anyone could be so desperate to save a contaminated grow.


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Sir Pentinite]
    #26865783 - 08/06/20 03:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You shroomerites who are putting this down, saying to "just learn a proper technique", are coming off patronizing and smug. I know where you are coming from, i too throw out anything contaminated rather than trying to somehow salvage it. Learning a proper way to grow is infinitely more valuable than salvaging contaminated projects. But thats not to say, that i cant see a value in this (IF it works that is).

Lets say, for example, hypothetically, that you have a culture that has some special meaning for you, and the only way to save it, is to grow a fruit you can clone out of a tub, that got contaminated. In such situations would something like this be useful. :shrug:

That being sad, i think this guy is a troll, and this method doesnt work (although maybe it works for gnats infestation?). Lets focus on why this method does/doesnt work, rather than humiliating it. This way will this thread at least have some value for the beginning cultivators who will stumble upon it in the future.

Oh, and once again:
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Ombisha said:
Show us pictures of your successful grows, OP




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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Ombisha]
    #26865801 - 08/06/20 04:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Can we stop pretending that cutting out trich and spraying it is good practice. Most of us grow inside, and most contamination not only is super fucking efficient, but they also love the same food the mushrooms do. The best thing to do with contam is to get it the fuck out of your house and grow space to avoid any future headaches.


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Wall.E]
    #26865807 - 08/06/20 04:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Myc_Hunt said:
Can we stop pretending that cutting out trich and spraying it is good practice. Most of us grow inside, and most contamination not only is super fucking efficient, but they also love the same food the mushrooms do. The best thing to do with contam is to get it the fuck out of your house and grow space to avoid any future headaches.



Literally no one is saying that...


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Ombisha]
    #26865958 - 08/06/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Ombisha said:
Quote:

Myc_Hunt said:
Can we stop pretending that cutting out trich and spraying it is good practice. Most of us grow inside, and most contamination not only is super fucking efficient, but they also love the same food the mushrooms do. The best thing to do with contam is to get it the fuck out of your house and grow space to avoid any future headaches.



Literally no one is saying that...




Did you read the OP?


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Wall.E]
    #26866016 - 08/06/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

IME once trich gets a hold on your grow it's over. If it happens early and you want to get a flush out of it you can use the dig out peroxide method. Spray the area liberally and then dig it out and respray. The trich will come back. It will eventually take over your grow. I personally don't want a trich filled tray near my other grows but if its your only grow or its a mono tub grow its ok but when you get your flush you should ditch it.  Trying to keep trich completely out of your house or grow area is not easy. I'm sure some here have successfully done it but it's not something you can do accidentally or by simply removing trich contaminated shit right away(but I do remove it right anyway). I have never tried the OP technique but have used peroxide. Use of peroxide to sterilize isn't new or a new idea and was talked about and tried 15+ years ago by members. Some reported success. I didn't try it. A PC and improving my techniques got me to where I wanted to be.


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OfflineLosTresOjos
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: shroomrookie]
    #26866085 - 08/06/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

My yields are relatively small but my God I would just start over if needed.


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26866099 - 08/06/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I agree. But when I first started, any potential way to save a grow or to get a few shrooms out of a contaminated grow was welcome. I printed every shroom (unless they were in a contaminated tray). Every shroom was important to me and I would try anything to save a grow. I don't have have those problems now but I remember the feeling.


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Ombisha]
    #26866188 - 08/06/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Ombisha said:
Quote:

Myc_Hunt said:
Can we stop pretending that cutting out trich and spraying it is good practice. Most of us grow inside, and most contamination not only is super fucking efficient, but they also love the same food the mushrooms do. The best thing to do with contam is to get it the fuck out of your house and grow space to avoid any future headaches.



Literally no one is saying that...




That's the entire premise of this thread. The title is "Stop throwing away your contaminated anything" which means start making it regular practice.

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Ombisha said:
Lets say, for example, hypothetically, that you have a culture that has some special meaning for you, and the only way to save it, is to grow a fruit you can clone out of a tub, that got contaminated. In such situations would something like this be useful. :shrug:




That suggests some poor planning up that point, but...

it would be an act of desperation which carries high risk of failure and low odds of success. As such, it should never become regular practice.


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Sir Pentinite]
    #26866217 - 08/06/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

when u guys go to make a sandwich and you find a spot of mold on the bread. do u go to the first aid box and pull out your super duper all powerful trusty peroxide and give it a spritz and just continue on with the penut butter?? or do you just throw the shit away and pay better attention in the future how you store your bread?? and when did something that was really meant for infections start being a treatment for molds anyway all this outdated bad information needs to just go the fuck away already

PEROXIDE HAS ZERO I FUCKING REPEAT ZERO USE IN THIS HOBBY PERIOD!!!!!!!

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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: jcm4620]
    #26866228 - 08/06/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

:rofl:

So true. I don't stand for anything moldy in my kitchen, why on Earth would I stand for mold in my mushrooms?


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26866272 - 08/06/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Pastywhyte said: I want 4 dehydrators running around the clock and a house that smells like feet.




I laughed because this happens all the time and I honestly DO forget it's the 160L dehydrators causing the stench.
I have apologized many times to my significant other for thinking it was them. :stinkyshroom:

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But it’s not a skill one should be looking to hone or advocating to people. It’s not a law, it’s just my opinion.




Also agreed. It's kind of common sense. In the same time and effort you use to try and salvage something like this, you could have already been working on the next thing and also doing a better job, while at it. It's a part of the learning process, and to me, more valuable to fail and try again and finally succeed rather than to cling to the hope and old ways. It teaches you to sit there and fight contams, not really figure how to overcome them altogether, which IMO, is the most important aspect.


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: FeedYourMind]
    #26866404 - 08/06/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Lol ! Your poor partner, they know the foot smell is you not them lol!!

Oh my lol.

Also I can understand the want to salvage but as was stated you learn and move on from those practices.


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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26866778 - 08/06/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Those pics are absolutely disgusting. I felt like a noob throwing out my bad jars, but I learned from it and made some decent grows. Then I felt like a noob reading old threads and thinking 10% peroxide + water (peroxide is 3% so really this is like .3%) and my mycelium TURNED BLUE just because I panicked and thought I had cobweb when I did not, and this was just a bit too much water and a tiny bit of peroxide so I am sure "SoakingAlot" of water + peroxide will do worse. I really hope this is just a long extended troll post.

The only reason I ever used peroxide is cause I read old posts similar to this one, but they didn't sound as unbelievable, bad information can set back new growers as it did myself so I don't want to see others make the same mistakes I did.

That picture shared is absolutely DISGUSTING I am not sure how that white goo proves anything.

That bag looks like it would be more likely to grow penicillin than mushrooms :laugh:


Edited by MrTinAZ (08/06/20 04:22 PM)


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