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verum subsequentis
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: jcm4620]
#26862515 - 08/04/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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hey buddy. Nice tag. I've just rainbow farming my balls off through the apocalypse in an area without wifi. I hate navigating this site on my phone so i just haven't been popping in much. That should be changing soon though.
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jcm4620
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thanx man๐๐ ya all i have is my phone so i feel ya lol but glad to see ur still around and im also waiting n wishing for the meteor to hit lol
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: SirSoaksAlot]
#26862779 - 08/04/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Seems super legit. Just waiting on all the pictures you're gonna post of your amazing success
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alaskappalachian
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Gastronomicus]
#26862883 - 08/04/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I knew if I gave it a day this would be a fun read... That quick flaming reminded me of like early-2000s Shroomery. Points to OP for maintaining positivity after being berated. 0 points for technique. 10 points for a positive attitude. Garden/outdoors is where tamtams go.
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Edited by alaskappalachian (08/04/20 04:00 PM)
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: alaskappalachian]
#26862996 - 08/04/20 04:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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From what I understand about peroxide... doesn't it break down most really anything organic-wise? I've seen it eat through potato... no way am I gonna use that on my precious myc.
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: mushhead]
#26863080 - 08/04/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah it punishes cube/most myc. Only place I've seen any practical application is cleaning up filthy wild saphrophyte clone samples from species that have thin tissue you can't get inner tissue from (like that pesky trametes you found in your backyard that turns shades every time it hits agar). Even then there are other tricks to the trade...
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: jcm4620]
#26863444 - 08/04/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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verum subsequentis said:

Pics or it didn't happen. I've got 100 bucks on your being full of shit. But i've been wrong before.
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jcm4620 said:
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verum subsequentis said:

Pics or it didn't happen. I've got 100 bucks on your being full of shit. But i've been wrong before.
il add a hundo to that
Nice lol, want my paypal? I'm kidding, I don't want your money and understand your sentiments. I'll deliver because I have the years of proof this works. Thursday would be a good day since it's my first day off work. Does thursday work for you?
Look, I don't need a SAB or good technique, because I have great technique, a flow hood and lots of different agar mixes for different applications. As much as any of you want to say you're perfect, we all know that contams happen, this technique will fix that. You won't suffer from fresh air exchange if you use peroxide, because it DELIVERS fresh air and water. I can't stress this enough, you can rescue a failed grow this way and the science is solid.
Here, for example, let's say you're into a stone producer. You ply through all that grain or whatever you use and get your stones. What next? Add more grain, dunk the remains in peroxide, you're getting a whole new harvest. It's perpetual. Years of drowning fungus in peroxide has made me a believer that you can't over do it.
I love that some of you dump the contams in your compost or gardens. Plants make fungus so incredibly happy because it gives them purpose and they like trading. If you do that, keep on doing it because it's good practice to think of your fungus as friends, not just producers.
I get you're jaded, don't want to hear it, but I've yet to hear from anyone who hasn't dismissed this out of hand. 6% peroxide will kill everything but your fungus, it's why it's being used to sterilize institutions around the country. It's safe, effective and breaks down to two simple things: oxygen and water.
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: alaskappalachian]
#26863454 - 08/04/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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alaskappalachian said: Yeah it punishes cube/most myc. Only place I've seen any practical application is cleaning up filthy wild saphrophyte clone samples from species that have thin tissue you can't get inner tissue from (like that pesky trametes you found in your backyard that turns shades every time it hits agar). Even then there are other tricks to the trade...
I'd say they don't enjoy the experience, but it beats being eaten by a rival mold or fungus, so they know you're doing it with good intentions. It certainly doesn't kill them. Now, I can only speak about this with first hand knowledge for a handful of mushroom varieties, and someone out there may have first hand knowledge of what I don't know. But together we can fill in the gaps. Working together is the best option, so please, share what you know and I'll share what I know with the best intentions.
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SirSoaksAlot
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Gastronomicus]
#26863457 - 08/04/20 08:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gastronomicus said: Seems super legit. Just waiting on all the pictures you're gonna post of your amazing success 
I work long hours, but if it helps, I can probably snap some pics and host them before I sleep in the AM. This OP can deliver.
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: alaskappalachian]
#26863460 - 08/04/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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alaskappalachian said: I knew if I gave it a day this would be a fun read... That quick flaming reminded me of like early-2000s Shroomery. Points to OP for maintaining positivity after being berated. 0 points for technique. 10 points for a positive attitude. Garden/outdoors is where tamtams go.
Been reading here since the early 2000's, I know how it goes. I'm not a noob and have all the lab equipment I dreamed of as a young adult, actually, too much so I tend to help out locally with people just getting into it. Life is way too much fun to let others dampen your shine, even if they don't believe, I have all the proof I need to know for certain this works. I'm confident I'm correct through experimentation.
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: SirSoaksAlot]
#26863495 - 08/04/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: The Fresh Prints] 1
#26863501 - 08/04/20 09:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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SirSoaksAlot
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: The Fresh Prints]
#26863506 - 08/04/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol. I'm not sure it cures all, but certainly kills all but mature fungus. I love that pic you have of the grain jar, that's beautiful.
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: SirSoaksAlot]
#26863512 - 08/04/20 09:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I never see the canopy pics of how itโs supposed to look when the peroxide bs works. I know how my grows look without me even having peroxide in the house. No ones changing my mind. I need more โwowโ factor to buy into this.
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: SirSoaksAlot]
#26863516 - 08/04/20 09:42 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I love that pic you have of the grain jar, that's beautiful.
Thanks! That jar is the result of making clean spawn my primary focus.
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alaskappalachian
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: The Fresh Prints]
#26863526 - 08/04/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That mushrooms will still grow from spawn to that's been soaked in peroxide doesn't define success. I can still drive my car after I tear a quarter panel off on a guardrail and go careening into a ditch, and fuck over a bearing, say. It runs, but now my car isn't what it could have been if I'd stuck to the road. It's a car, but goddamn it. It's a mess when it didn't have to be. You want to grow cubensis properly, you produce clean spawn; period. This site is where people go for optimal info/correct info. There's already an issue with this plethora of old, shitty teks that need to be culled without the addition of wild proclamations. I appreciate your incredibly positive attitude and respectful responses. I really do. I also agree that working together is the way to roll. That simply won't change the fact that clean spawn and good technique trumps saving shit spawn any day of any week. Period. It's not an argument. It's just a fact. You get a WAY better BE if you produce clean spawn and create/maintain good conditions for it. It's important that new growers know that, and not try things that "worked" for you that might totally fuck them in the ass. I don't think you deserved two shitty ratings for having a bad opinion for Christ's sake, but you are spreading bad info and touting it as solid AF. But you do you. I'm glad you're getting harvests and wish you well.
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: KuroNeko]
#26863552 - 08/04/20 10:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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KuroNeko said: Just go away with this bullshit. 20 years of cultivator legacy concluded that peroxide doesn't help with anything.
Saying that instead of learning sterile technique and proper practices you dump peroxide on everything is one of most stupid and deluded things ever posted on this forum.
It's good for disinfecting your work area. Kills mildew, mold, ECT. It's not as good as bleach but less harsh on fabrics and some surfaces and won't break your spray bottles.
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: alaskappalachian]
#26863559 - 08/04/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is an epic thread. This guy really doesn't seem to be trolling, but his claims sound so ludicrous at face value
I'm down to try it w/ one of my current epic fail tubs. Not because I think it will work, but because this whole thing is amusing enough for me to want to join in
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Rhizomorph
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26863578 - 08/04/20 10:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm open to seeing pictures of tubs with good yields that were mixed with peroxide - but I trust Pasty when he says it won't happen.
If you have contamination and you're just trying to save your cakes, just improve your sterile technique rather than wasting time & effort with peroxide
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Stop throwing away your contaminated anything [Re: Rhizomorph] 3
#26863585 - 08/04/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The best way to beat contamination is to simply not have it in the first place.
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