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Re: Is it possible to store tea without lemon for long term? [Re: DnDRnD]
    #26861530 - 08/03/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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I could be wrong cause different areas have different things and stuff but all the pharmacy's around here that sell alcohol for disinfectant and stuff only sell ISO which isnt drinking alcohol and can make you really sick to drink

To get pure alcohol you have to order from a chem supply store usually since ethanol is extremely hydroscopic  as soon as the bottle is exposed to air it absorbs some water dropping it down to 95% (same percentage as everclear)

Isopropyl is different from ethyl alcohol and the stuff for cleaning wounds an such is iso (atleast around here)




He is right about isopropyl alcohol not being ingestible. You can just Google it and immediately says it's toxic.

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Oh man I definitely agree they could lose potency if not stored in an airtight bag or something

It was the way you worded it made it sound like the psilocybin was evaporating off and that's why they lost potency while I was saying the air oxidized the psilocybin  in the ice cube and that's why they lost potency

:shrug: either way they lost potency




By the way, I'm not trying to get off topic but this is getting me mad. When I try to pull of the air of a Ziploc bag with a straw it seems to be airtight but in just a few hours it comes back as if I did nothing. I tried to do it also with double bag, and pulling the air of each one too almost until I pass out lol but same thing. How do you guys get he air from a bag and make it stay that way indefinitely?


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Re: Is it possible to store tea without lemon for long term? [Re: gabbk]
    #26861550 - 08/03/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I just use a ziplock bag and roll it to squish the air out then seal it closed and call it good :shrug: now that's for storing mushroom ice cube

I keep my frozen tea in water bottles and just screw the lid on tight

Dry mushies go in jars

Atleast that's how I do it :shrug:


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Re: Is it possible to store tea without lemon for long term? [Re: DnDRnD]
    #26861568 - 08/03/20 08:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Oh yes I forgot to mention that sucking the air out would be for dried mushrooms. Bought a few big 3 liter jars last week but I'm running them out now. So it would be a good idea to Ziploc the rest, but it's getting imposible!! The air is getting in and softening the mushrooms:sad:


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Re: Is it possible to store tea without lemon for long term? [Re: gabbk]
    #26861582 - 08/03/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

My understanding is that pretty much any extraction is going to be less stable than dry mushrooms, no matter the temperature. (I've heard a methanol evaporation extraction mixed with honey is supposed to be somewhat stable, but never tried it myself.)

I'm sure frozen tea is able to hold on to a fair bit of active psilocybin, but you'll still probably get some loss in potency over time. As for how this would compare to the loss in potency from the drying process, I've got no clue, but I'd say that if you already have your mushrooms dried you're probably better off just leaving them dried and chucking em in the freezer.

If you made tea and have extra though, yeah sure freeze that shit. Certainly can't be any worse than pouring it down the drain.


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Re: Is it possible to store tea without lemon for long term? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26861584 - 08/03/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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PrimalSoup said:

Plus, it gets all of the psilocybin AND the psilocin in one go, which can't be emphasized enough.  :havesomescience:




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Re: Is it possible to store tea without lemon for long term? [Re: turbulentflow]
    #26861608 - 08/03/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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turbulentflow said:
My understanding is that pretty much any extraction is going to be less stable than dry mushrooms, no matter the temperature. (I've heard a methanol evaporation extraction mixed with honey is supposed to be somewhat stable, but never tried it myself.)

I'm sure frozen tea is able to hold on to a fair bit of active psilocybin, but you'll still probably get some loss in potency over time. As for how this would compare to the loss in potency from the drying process, I've got no clue, but I'd say that if you already have your mushrooms dried you're probably better off just leaving them dried and chucking em in the freezer.

If you made tea and have extra though, yeah sure freeze that shit. Certainly can't be any worse than pouring it down the drain.




I've downed frozen tea stored as long as 3 years with no discernible change in potency.  Probably good for the long haul if that's your thing... :cookiemonster:


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Re: Is it possible to store tea without lemon for long term? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26861630 - 08/03/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah my hunch is that the primary loss in potency would be during the actual crystallization process, and then once it was frozen it would be relatively stable over time.

I'm basing that on literally nothing other than my intuition though.


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Re: Is it possible to store tea without lemon for long term? [Re: gabbk]
    #26861665 - 08/03/20 09:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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gabbk said:
Oh yes I forgot to mention that sucking the air out would be for dried mushrooms. Bought a few big 3 liter jars last week but I'm running them out now. So it would be a good idea to Ziploc the rest, but it's getting imposible!! The air is getting in and softening the mushrooms:sad:




Dry your mushrooms for a tad bit longer to be safe, double bag and consider some desiccant packs until you can get more jars


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Re: Is it possible to store tea without lemon for long term? [Re: DnDRnD]
    #26861680 - 08/03/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Dry your mushrooms for a tad bit longer to be safe, double bag and consider some desiccant packs until you can get more jars




Will definitely go that route then! Thanks! :smile:


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Re: Is it possible to store tea without lemon for long term? [Re: DnDRnD]
    #26862215 - 08/04/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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DnDRnD said:
I could be wrong cause different areas have different things and stuff but all the pharmacy's around here that sell alcohol for disinfectant and stuff only sell ISO which isnt drinking alcohol and can make you really sick to drink

To get pure alcohol you have to order from a chem supply store usually since ethanol is extremely hydroscopic  as soon as the bottle is exposed to air it absorbs some water dropping it down to 95% (same percentage as everclear)

Isopropyl is different from ethyl alcohol and the stuff for cleaning wounds an such is iso (atleast around here)




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