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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: pineninja] * 2
    #26874667 - 08/11/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Weigh your intended dose of cracker dry/dried cactus skins. Powder/crush up cracker dry skins (I use a blender or small amounts in a cheap coffee grinder, 13 bucks at walmart or a dollar store). Get a half pint jar and place dried powder in it. Add everclear (190 proof grain alcohol, any brand) or 90% isopropyl alcohol. Add just enough to make about a 1/4 in layer on top completely covering/soaking material, maybe a little less but you want the material completely soaking in it. Put the lid on and seal it.

I personally do not rush this process. I can do it over a week or two because I like to make sure I'm getting as much out of the skins as possible. Shake it up and let it settle for a day or 3 day, shaking every time you think of it. The longer it soaks the better IMHO. Drain it through a coffee filter or filter paper, or a cheese cloth and save the material and put it back in the soaking jar. Do the soak and filter at least 3 times, I have done 5 or even 7 times until the liquid from the material becomes a very light green or yellowish. Save all the filtered liquid in a bigger jar until you've got all of it. Keep a lid on it so it doesn't evaporate yet.

Pour all of your collected filtered  skin soakings into a flat pyrex/glass dish. You can cover it with a thin layer of cheese cloth to allow airflow to evaporate the alcohol. If you do this be very careful it doesn't touch the liquid. You can use a rubber band around the rim to make it taut. Blow a fan on it to speed up evaporation. I have used an oven later when most/all of the alcohol is evaporated out and it's a really sticky goo like substance. I use the lowest setting on the oven (175 for mine) and get it as dry as possible. Not sure of a time, but it should be crackly and brittle but still somewhat malleable. Scrape it up and put it in capsules, or shape into little tarballs as big as you want/can swallow. Caps keep that really bitter taste out of your mouth, and believe me it's VERY bitter. ENJOY!
(I used 55 grams of dried outer skins last time, and it was only about 8-12 caps I think, it's not like 30 etc...I need to do this again actually:grin:)

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I do this with syrian rues seeds too so I don't ingest any material, just the alcohol extracted goodies.:grin:


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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #26875201 - 08/11/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Just made a new batch of cactus tar like two weeks ago. Took pictures, so it's all documented.

Will write a small pictorial the next days.. :thumbup:

Here's some first pics I already posted in the candy thread last week.
The resulting tar (last pic) is 10 feet worth, so ten mild or 5 to 6 strong doses.
If you make it right a dose is not much to swallow. Like 10 grams of tar per dose, that's 6 or 7 small pellets to swallow. Easy. :shrug:



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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26875465 - 08/11/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks gents will definitely be giving this a go.


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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: pineninja]
    #26875575 - 08/11/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hi - this is my first post here (sort of...)

It has been mentioned, in places and at times, that SP cactus cuttings increase in potency when stored in a cool, dark place for a couple of months or so. Do any of you have experience with this?

For those with patience and/or foresight this would seem like a method worth trying. It also seems to be the case that at least some Andean huachuma practitioners mature their SP cuttings this way.


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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: downwardsfromzero]
    #26876303 - 08/12/20 04:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I always do that. The cactus used in this post was cured for about 2 months. I always ended up with decently potent cactus but cant tell if the curing process had something to do with it because i have never compared the same batch with a cured and a non cured.


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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: golmo]
    #26876445 - 08/12/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It's not scientifically proven yet. Who has the time to do some side by side testing? :smirk:
Two identically grown clones are needed for this comparison.

My strongest trip so far was from a small section of a bridgesii that I wrapped in a towel and laied it aside for almost a full year. When I ate it there were roots grown all over the side of the whole cutting.
It was extremy bitter and strong as fuck. 7 to 8 inches of this thin tipcutting did send me to the moon and back.
Usually bridgesii is pretty consistent in potency, a fresh cutting of a foot is like a good hit of acid (120 to 150 mics). This 8 inches felt more like 250mics.
I had enormous vortex-like open eye visuals, and extreme color shiftings for hours.

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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: golmo]
    #26876446 - 08/12/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not an expert but wouldn't the alkaloid content be the same no matter how it's dried/kept etc...? Isn't the genetics of a cannabis seed the same THC content no matter what/how it's grown? :shrug::confused: Maybe the drying concentrates the alkaloids already present. I don't see how it could increase them.


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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26876451 - 08/12/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It has nothing to do with drying.

Theory behind is that mescaline is the natural defense alkaloid of those cacti. That's why it's concentrated in the outer skin, it's extremly bitter and toxic for small animals that might want to eat the plant.

Cutting them and laying them on the side will stress the plant and force it to create more alkaloids. Well, that's at least the theory.

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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26876457 - 08/12/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hmmm, interesting. Maybe it just draws more from the inner core to the outer green layer? I don't see how it could start producing more than what's already in it.:confused:


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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26876478 - 08/12/20 08:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think the ONLY thing to cactus, chew it raw==use rootbeer to wash inside your mouth, and you aren't tripping
until you vomit, shit, and sooner or later, trip your balls off.  :awehigh:


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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: starfire_xes]
    #26876482 - 08/12/20 08:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ummmm, no thanks, lol. I prefer the tarballs.:grin:

You ever try any escaline or proscaline?


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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26876754 - 08/12/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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You should definitely boof that whole thing


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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: mongo lloyd] * 1
    #26876758 - 08/12/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

LOL, it looks like it came out the hole actually.:eek:


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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26876762 - 08/12/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It's some magical shit for sure.

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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26876765 - 08/12/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It's a living creature. The plant can and will attempt to heal itself including creating self defense chemicals. As long as it's alive it will produce something to help heal.


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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26876805 - 08/12/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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LOL, it looks like it came out the hole actually.:eek:



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I haven't taken mescaline in years. I'd love to give it a go again. I ate San Pedro each time, I'm quite interested in T Bridgesii, I've read very good things about it.


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Re: Eating raw san pedro tomorrow [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #26882670 - 08/16/20 02:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I gave it another go yesterday.  This time I froze a cutting and defrosted it a couple of times.  On the first defrost Most of the juice leaked out so I just collected and drank that.  I dehydrated the solid bits for later use.

Good times were had.  Stronger than the first time.


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