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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26882648 - 08/16/20 01:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That their list is a “Clinton death list.” The entire point of this article is to suggest that the Clintons had these people killed, or at least some of these people. If “Clinton death list” isn’t clear enough, I think “Clinton body count” is explicit enough.
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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#26882649 - 08/16/20 01:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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. Vahn, do you have any evidence of this, or is this only a suspicion based on coincidence?
Dude fal this is the nicest way you've ever said "source or make believe?"
How is suspicion based on coincidence not the same as make believing?
Come on dude 
Two reasons:
1. His statement wasn't technically make believe; hence I asked for clarification. If koods had a suspicion about Hillary, he'd say something more like "Hillary did it". That's koods' style and it pisses me off. 2. People here have been total assholes to Vahn, and I think he has potential, so I'm hoping the assholes don't scare him away. The guy's already admitted to be wrong more than anyone I can recall, so we both have to adjust to each other's style.
Thank you.
My PM's to Falcon take a very different energy than my public posts, and it's all due to how I'm treated, here.
I'm just a mirror, gents. If you don't like what you see, look within. If you don't get what I mean, take more psychedelics. 
Props to Shiva for engaging ideas thoroughly, even if we don't agree on everything. Shiva's approach, despite being the opposition, is in direct contract to many other posters who rely on less savory tactics to attempt to win debate.
I'll get back to some of the other posts here when I'm not drunk.
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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: Vahn421]
#26882650 - 08/16/20 01:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: 'Clinton death list': 33 spine-tingling cases . Which of the WND deaths didn't happen? . I don't believe Hillary is a murderer. I've said so here, and here, and here.
So let’s get this straight. Falcon believes that Clinton isn’t killing people left and right, but instead of calling out Vahn on his make believe, he backs him up and provides a fake news source. 🤔
Technically, Vahn didn't make believe. He didn't say "Hillary had these people killed", he said these people "mysteriously die".
Now, you'll probably say "but it was clear from the context that Vahn implied Hillary was behind it". To which I say now you can read context when it works in your favor, but you can't read context otherwise? 

I’m sorry but I don’t get what you’re laughing about. How can I possibly infer meaning from a
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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#26882663 - 08/16/20 01:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: He's been a member since 2012 and he's got potential to replace xul. Bout it.
This isnt just about koods. You do it to everybody. Pretty sure everybody here can validate that claim
You really don't know what I'm all about, mate.
Despite our history so far, if you could be chill, I'd have a beer or a joint with you and talk about the world... hash out ideas and their nuances so there wasn't any misunderstandings, etc...
I don't know if you'd accept the invitation, but I'm always down. I don't like to be misunderstood and I don't like to misunderstand others, despite having strong opinions because of the shit I've seen. I'm not a dunce, dude. I just have different life experience than you. I try to give others the benefit of the doubt, but few here seem to want to do the same.
I prefer actually understanding where someone else is coming from over assuming. Assuming shit about someone else that isn't true just stunts your growth, not just mentally but emotionally and spiritually. (And I know someone is gonna be like, "but you're full of assumptions!" Yeah, well... my assumptions are about collective group-think and where it leads far more than it is individuals. There's a difference between the two in my world, even if there isn't in yours.)
The thing about my ideas is that many of them DON'T have evidence... yet. But time typically vindicates me. My history with my predictions is good.
Having said all this, if you look at my entire history, you'll notice one particular trait with me: I stick to the topic until people descend into talking about me. Once that happens, I take the kid gloves off, too... but if people would just fuck off on the personal shit and just debate ideas, you'd see I never have been and never will be the first to start personal shit. I'm just following your leads, bros.
One exception: When I first got here I made a passive personal attack against Shiva which I'd like to apologize for. I've never encountered someone who copied and pasted their own words written originally for another purpose that becomes relevant to a current context, and it threw me for a loop when I saw his writing style shift. I wonder if I'll ever encounter such a thing again in my life. Shiva is quite an interesting character, and is the only one on the opposition *by far,* who I feel is stretching my soul in any relevant way, here. (Ok, Qman does a good job, too. But he's kinda in the middle.)
There rest of you all are lazy. You could learn a thing or two from Shiva.
Shiva, I'll get back to you when I aint cross faded.
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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: koods]
#26882697 - 08/16/20 02:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Which of the 33 deaths is make believe? (this is the 3rd time I'm asking)
What a fucking bullshit question. You know the issue isn’t that they’re dead or not. JFC you’re a total hack.
Ok, sorry. What's "the make believe from WND" that "is clearly make believe"? 
That their list is a “Clinton death list.” The entire point of this article is to suggest that the Clintons had these people killed, or at least some of these people. If “Clinton death list” isn’t clear enough, I think “Clinton body count” is explicit enough.
Agreed, it suggested it. But nowhere did it insist Hillary did it, as you do with Putin.
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How many people do you personally know who have died mysteriously?
How about in plane crashes or car wrecks?
Bizarre suicides?
People beaten to death or murdered in a hail of bullets?
And what about violent freak accidents – like separate mountain biking and skiing collisions in Aspen, Colorado? Or barbells crushing a person's throat?
I don't know how many you know, but for me I can only think of two people (one in a bicycle accident, and one in a plane crash).
The article lets the reader draw his own conclusions; I missed the "make believe" part you are make believing is there. It makes an interesting point, though I personally don't think there's enough there to say Hillary was behind it.
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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26882709 - 08/16/20 02:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Agreed, it suggested it. But nowhere did it insist Hillary did it, as you do with Putin.
So what? The legitimacy of the Hillary claim has no bearing on the legitimacy of the Putin claims. I have no interest in rehashing that crap, but there are actual credible accusations against Putin, not just innuendo from fringe conspiracy websites. They’re not in the same league
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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: koods]
#26882729 - 08/16/20 03:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Of course you have no interest interest in going down that path. Everyone we have, all you've had was innuendos, same as Hillary. But I'm happy to see if you have any new evidence this time around.
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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#26882732 - 08/16/20 03:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The legitimacy of the Putin accusations are debatable. Unlike the Hillary ones.
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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#26883012 - 08/16/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vahn said "People that try to expose Hillary mysterious die." That actually happened to a lot of people.
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It also doesn’t happen to allot of people that try to expose Hillary . Vast majority of people who have looked into the Clintons are still alive . This thread needs to be moved to the asylum . It’s pathetic AF .
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#26883086 - 08/16/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is starting to seems as though it has run it's course.
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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: Psilynut2]
#26883296 - 08/16/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Vahn said "People that try to expose Hillary mysterious die." That actually happened to a lot of people.
It also doesn’t happen to allot of people that try to expose Hillary . Vast majority of people who have looked into the Clintons are still alive .
Ah, now we're finally starting to get somewhere! A whole lot of people who criticized Putin are still alive.
Do you see the double standard you've just made obvious?
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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26883407 - 08/16/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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No we aren’t getting anywhere . Putin is in a permanent position of power . Hillary has no power , no power to oversee or stop an investigation . You aren’t saying anything logical . .
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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: Psilynut2]
#26883520 - 08/16/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psilynut2 said: No we aren’t getting anywhere . Putin is in a permanent position of power .
You mean he's so popular that he keeps getting reelected? Here's Putin's approval ratings since 2000:

WAY higher than American presidents.
You've seen the discussion here of how here in America we have a choice between two losers for president. Russians prefer not to elect losers.
I know koods like to brag how he's been to Russia when it was still communist USSR so he thinks he knows what it's like. I've been there several times since it converted to capitalism, loaded with businesses like McDonalds, Levis, Sony, etc. (see list of shops at a Moscow mall). It's not the old Russia you and koods keep make believing it is. They have Fox, CNN, and other American channels on their tvs now.
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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#26902877 - 08/27/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dont see why Russia ans USA arent allies. Unless its the "we were always at war with eurasia" strategy.
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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26903394 - 08/28/20 01:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psilynut2 said: No we aren’t getting anywhere . Putin is in a permanent position of power .
You mean he's so popular that he keeps getting reelected? Here's Putin's approval ratings since 2000:

WAY higher than American presidents.
You've seen the discussion here of how here in America we have a choice between two losers for president. Russians prefer not to elect losers.
I know koods like to brag how he's been to Russia when it was still communist USSR so he thinks he knows what it's like. I've been there several times since it converted to capitalism, loaded with businesses like McDonalds, Levis, Sony, etc. (see list of shops at a Moscow mall). It's not the old Russia you and koods keep make believing it is. They have Fox, CNN, and other American channels on their tvs now.
Russian dissidents believe that Putin's elections are all rigged. Just like some progressives think Bernie Sanders loss in the primaries this year was rigged. I don't think we'll ever know the truth about these things. I think the truth is a dated concept, and all we have is interpretations/narrative. Given that, I also don't think there is anything useful about calling something make believe.
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Re: Is there ANY good argument for blocking traffic? [Re: Brian Jones]
#26904112 - 08/28/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: Russian dissidents believe that Putin's elections are all rigged.
We KNOW that Putin is extremely popular in Russia, and that he clearly has the support of the majority of the population, as shown in the polling data above. Private polling data confirms this as well.
What we also know is that Russians have implemented a VERY secure election process, that is almost impossible to rig.
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Brian Jones said: Just like some progressives think Bernie Sanders loss in the primaries this year was rigged. I don't think we'll ever know the truth about these things. I think the truth is a dated concept, and all we have is interpretations/narrative. Given that, I also don't think there is anything useful about calling something make believe.
You're correct in that we'll never know the truth about US elections, because we don't have voter verified paper ballots, votes aren't counted manually in the presence of candidates’ representatives and independent monitors, and people can't even count the votes properly (as evidenced in Iowa). These aren't problems they have in Russia.
I'm VERY willing to look at dissident's arguments of why they believe Russian elections are rigged given the evidence they are not. But so far, all I hear is the koods of the world telling me I gotta learn how to make believe.
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