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DMT like experience * 1
    #26860335 - 08/03/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

This weekend was an experience like never before. Started the evening out with blue juice split between 3 people, about 30 grams of wet weight which has never been attempted by anyone present. After about 1 hour of not feeling anything moved on to some tea 2.5 grams in the tea. 20 mins later it was like a 3 hour DMT trip, super intense. Is there reasoning behind this? Was not enough time given for blue juice to kick in? Did the blue juice and tea mix in the body and increase potency? At a loss at what was experience...


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: djdc] * 1
    #26860361 - 08/03/20 09:27 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Did you have a full stomach? Food can delay absorption, that and you kept dosing. Sounds like you just got a pretty standard level 5+ trip to me.


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: MentalPariah]
    #26860375 - 08/03/20 09:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

probably high psilocin content in the tea.. as you probably know, psilocin is 4-OH-DMT, which is like an orally active form of DMT...


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: MentalPariah]
    #26860384 - 08/03/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ate a pizza with the blue juice that was the first thing eaten all day. I'll say 10/10 would do again. Add Dr Strange in a private theater room also 10/10. I've felt a DMT like trip with shrooms before but it's always been burst visuals that are DMT like but this just didn't stop for hours. This was our first time making blue juice and after an hour we felt like we had made it wrong or something.


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: djdc]
    #26860386 - 08/03/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Blue juice was made from golden teachers and tea was B+ strain


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: djdc]
    #26861687 - 08/03/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

What's this blue juice?


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: djdc]
    #26861690 - 08/03/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah fungi tea at that dose can potentially be similar to a dmt trip. Imho/e.


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26864888 - 08/05/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Blue juice is cold water extract, has to be done with fresh mushrooms. Terrance McKenna discussed it in a few of his talks.


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: djdc]
    #26864960 - 08/05/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I've never heard Terrence McKenna mention blue juice. It was his brother Dennis who mentions it.


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26865637 - 08/05/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

After messing with DMT, every mushroom trip has reminded me of DMT. Mushroom trips became much darker after trying DMT. Other events in life may have contributed to this as well though.


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: breeg89]
    #26865643 - 08/05/20 11:18 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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After messing with DMT, every mushroom trip has reminded me of DMT. Mushroom trips became much darker after trying DMT. Other events in life may have contributed to this as well though.




I feel something oddly similar, but I'm trying to reclassify it away from "dark". Very odd though for sure.


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: Azure Essence]
    #26865778 - 08/06/20 03:16 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Eating a meal right before dosing, or at the same time, will delay the onset. It takes an hour to 90min till the effects start slowly.

Any delayed onset will diminish the effects. With a full stomache it is as if you eat the shrooms slowly over the course of an hour.

It's best to ingest shrooms on an empty stomache. Fastest oneset and strongest effects. :thumbup:

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Re: DMT like experience [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26867471 - 08/06/20 10:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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breeg89 said:
After messing with DMT, every mushroom trip has reminded me of DMT. Mushroom trips became much darker after trying DMT. Other events in life may have contributed to this as well though.




I feel something oddly similar, but I'm trying to reclassify it away from "dark". Very odd though for sure.




Yeah, "dark" isn't necessarily the right word. I think "dark" comes to mind largely due to the incomprehensible, alien aspect of it. After DMT, mushrooms became simultaneously hyper-mystical and ultra-technological. It feels like I experience a realm existing outside of time, even on fairly low doses.

Before DMT, mushrooms were largely euphoric. But again, other life changes possibly contributed to this change, as much if not more than DMT use. I haven't used DMT in about five years, and I use mushrooms in fairly low doses 1-2 times per year (or less), but this alien eternity is the new normal during mushroom trips. I've also noticed more of an auditory component to mushrooms after DMT (reminiscent of that buzzing energy that many report on DMT).

I strongly agree that reclassifying it away from "dark" could be extremely beneficial in helping to appreciate the experience for the potential insight that it offers.


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: breeg89]
    #26867882 - 08/07/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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breeg89 said:
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Azure Essence said:
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breeg89 said:
After messing with DMT, every mushroom trip has reminded me of DMT. Mushroom trips became much darker after trying DMT. Other events in life may have contributed to this as well though.




I feel something oddly similar, but I'm trying to reclassify it away from "dark". Very odd though for sure.




Yeah, "dark" isn't necessarily the right word. I think "dark" comes to mind largely due to the incomprehensible, alien aspect of it. After DMT, mushrooms became simultaneously hyper-mystical and ultra-technological. It feels like I experience a realm existing outside of time, even on fairly low doses.

Before DMT, mushrooms were largely euphoric. But again, other life changes possibly contributed to this change, as much if not more than DMT use. I haven't used DMT in about five years, and I use mushrooms in fairly low doses 1-2 times per year (or less), but this alien eternity is the new normal during mushroom trips. I've also noticed more of an auditory component to mushrooms after DMT (reminiscent of that buzzing energy that many report on DMT).

I strongly agree that reclassifying it away from "dark" could be extremely beneficial in helping to appreciate the experience for the potential insight that it offers.




My experience is that every single thing that's perceptible about brain chemistry became heightened after DMT:

Emotional swings became a bit 'wider'
Cannabis became much more psychoactive
Caffeine tolerance was reset
Exercise 'runners high' more intense

And also, mushrooms have become a more dissociative experience than they were before DMT. Before, the sense that I was dissociating from my body was never there, but now I feel it somewhat on all doses.


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26873397 - 08/10/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You may be right it was quite a while ago that I listened to that presentation


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: Capsicum Chinense]
    #26873400 - 08/10/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I will agree that since I've done DMT that my mushroom experiences have changed but not in a dark way whatsoever. I've became more mindful of the experience mushrooms are trying to give me where as before it was way more fun loving and free.


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: Capsicum Chinense]
    #26874152 - 08/10/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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breeg89 said:
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Azure Essence said:
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breeg89 said:
After messing with DMT, every mushroom trip has reminded me of DMT. Mushroom trips became much darker after trying DMT. Other events in life may have contributed to this as well though.




I feel something oddly similar, but I'm trying to reclassify it away from "dark". Very odd though for sure.




Yeah, "dark" isn't necessarily the right word. I think "dark" comes to mind largely due to the incomprehensible, alien aspect of it. After DMT, mushrooms became simultaneously hyper-mystical and ultra-technological. It feels like I experience a realm existing outside of time, even on fairly low doses.

Before DMT, mushrooms were largely euphoric. But again, other life changes possibly contributed to this change, as much if not more than DMT use. I haven't used DMT in about five years, and I use mushrooms in fairly low doses 1-2 times per year (or less), but this alien eternity is the new normal during mushroom trips. I've also noticed more of an auditory component to mushrooms after DMT (reminiscent of that buzzing energy that many report on DMT).

I strongly agree that reclassifying it away from "dark" could be extremely beneficial in helping to appreciate the experience for the potential insight that it offers.




My experience is that every single thing that's perceptible about brain chemistry became heightened after DMT:

Emotional swings became a bit 'wider'
Cannabis became much more psychoactive
Caffeine tolerance was reset
Exercise 'runners high' more intense

And also, mushrooms have become a more dissociative experience than they were before DMT. Before, the sense that I was dissociating from my body was never there, but now I feel it somewhat on all doses.




Interesting stuff. I agree about the dissociative experience. After DMT, I've experienced dissociation on both mushrooms and ALD-52. Before DMT, never experienced dissociation on any psychedelic.


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Re: DMT like experience [Re: djdc]
    #26874710 - 08/11/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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This weekend was an experience like never before. Started the evening out with blue juice split between 3 people, about 30 grams of wet weight which has never been attempted by anyone present. After about 1 hour of not feeling anything moved on to some tea 2.5 grams in the tea. 20 mins later it was like a 3 hour DMT trip, super intense. Is there reasoning behind this? Was not enough time given for blue juice to kick in? Did the blue juice and tea mix in the body and increase potency? At a loss at what was experience...




The reason the initial dose wasn't strong is because you only used 30 grams wet between 3 people. That's like 1 gram each. Most people won't fully trip from that, and if you did 2.5 grams solo after that it would explain how you had an experience, if you split it, it was probably a mild experience comparatively to what it could have been, but it's not the size of the dose, it's how you use it :wink:

And mushrooms are a form of DMT, so you should expect them to have similarities. It's just an orally available DMT. I always explain the difference as smoking DMT is like a rocketship to the center of space, mushrooms is a boat ride. At higher doses they all intertwine to the same realms in the end, every psychedelic can take you to the same place, because it exists within us


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In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
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Different ways in which The
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