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dr0384


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Oyster pin porn
#26843735 - 07/24/20 10:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didn't have much confidence in this bag.was too wet, was trying a different approach for pasteurisation.
Soaked in tub, added tap water and boiling water till it reaches 80c. Leave over night.
Problem I'm having is I cannot get the water levels right afterwards. What do people do with wood pellets and wheat bran to get to field capacity.
Also I'm looking at growing more edibles. Don't grow actives anymore but would like a different species. I've got Blue oyster and shiitake.
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Re: Oyster pin porn [Re: dr0384]
#26843814 - 07/24/20 11:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think you better get more FAE on those.
Use this to figure out how much water you need to use. But to be honest I think you got lucky on that one. Your sub needs to be sterilized when supplementing.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26632628
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Anyone mist them or just leave them in fruiting chamber?
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Re: Oyster pin porn [Re: Bsdgaou]
#26843820 - 07/24/20 11:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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You only need to mist if you can not keep the humidity right. So if the humidity is right in your fruiting chamber no need to mist.
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They need to be sterilized? Really? I've done about 4 bags in 4 weeks and have had no contaminations. I normally pasteurise for 1 hour between 60-70c. High spawn ratio normally though. 5 cups pellets , 1 1/4 cups weat bran.
But this one I did different. As mentioned above. Bright to 80c and let cool. Didn't watch Just put in one jar of spawn but moisture was off. Thought it would contaminate.
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Re: Oyster pin porn [Re: Bsdgaou]
#26843833 - 07/25/20 12:01 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have just moved to fruiting chamber and exposed to more fae. They were colonising in my cupboard and I just noticed them.
I'll keep posted on their growth.
I watered and misted the fruiting chamber. Then put block in there. Didn't want to mist directly onto the pins , I hear that can increase aborts.
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SHROOMSISAY01 said: I think you better get more FAE on those.
Use this to figure out how much water you need to use. But to be honest I think you got lucky on that one. Your sub needs to be sterilized when supplementing.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26632628
Thanks for the link. I just had a read. Definitely going to try this. Make my process way more streamlined.
I'm really enjoying having fresh oysters for my breakfast on weekends. Very enjoyable.
Used to just grow to get high. Now I've grown a new love for edibles as mushrooms are so tasty. Especially this fresh.
Also keeps me Sain during lockdown.
I'm starting some shiitake. Might actually do a journal for them. Do it right from the start
They're happily in fruiting chamber now.
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Re: Oyster pin porn [Re: dr0384]
#26843849 - 07/25/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you are not getting any contamination then just keep doing what you are doing but if you start contaminating I would say it is because you are not sterilizing. Only doing a bag a week it's really not a big deal if it does contaminate. But doing 50 bags a week you don't want to contaminate.
Use the tek to figure out how much water to use for each bag then just pour the boiling water in the bag if that is the way you are going to do it. Once you have the water figured out it will be easy for you. If you are going by coir field capacity you are way off. Feild capacity of hardwood fuel pellets is different. Take a handful and squeeze hard 1 drop at the most for field capacity. You are better off taking the time to get it to 60% and not guessing though.
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Yea I think that is how everyone gets started growing mushrooms. That is how I got started just to trip a little. At one point I would have to do an ounce of mushrooms just to trip. Then I went to DMT and that shit scared the hell out of me. LOL.
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SHROOMSISAY01 said: Yea I think that is how everyone gets started growing mushrooms. That is how I got started just to trip a little. At one point I would have to do an ounce of mushrooms just to trip. Then I went to DMT and that shit scared the hell out of me. LOL.
I'm not pasteurizing in bag. I'm just getting pot. Adding sawdust and wheat bran, mixing. Adding water until it reaches 80c. And leaving overnight.
Previous to this bag I got it to 70c and maintained between 60-70c.
Then I drain in colander and get to field capacity. Then add spawn and mix around in bag.
Been working but I'm Not that confident at what is "field capacity" in sawdust. What I think is field capacity ends up too wet. I think I need to recalibrate. So I'll use your tek you posted to work this out.
I'm only doing small runs to perfect my procedure before I scale up.
I just want some mushrooms for me and my family to eat and keep me occupied. Nothing commercial or to sell etc.
Yea I think the right level of DMT is when your scared, in awe, and joyful in perfect balance.
That shit is so good. Yea I think it is how everyone gets started too. Same with gardening. One day I grow some weed the next I enjoy gardening and I'm turning into my dad. Lol.
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Re: Oyster pin porn [Re: dr0384]
#26843975 - 07/25/20 04:07 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you want to perfect your procedure, definitely do what Shrooms said and sterilize if you're going to supplement. That's fully sterilize - the whole substrate - and spawn in front of a flow hood. Or just leave out the bran.
You are getting lucky that it's not contaminating, which isn't surprising because oysters are aggressive. But it's just not a reliable way to grow, you're gonna have issues eventually.
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Yea no dramas. Didn't realise you shouldn't do it that way.
I did a new bag last night. This time sterilizing. Followed noobs wood tek and found it way drier than I've been leaving it.
I'm going to try some shiitake in it I think.
Thanks for the help guys.
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Re: Oyster pin porn [Re: dr0384]
#26859727 - 08/02/20 08:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I've got a colonised spawn bag of oyster. My plan was to pasteurise a bucket worth of sawdust and wheat bran. But now I've learnt not to pasteurise wheat bran.
So should I have some additives or just woodchips.
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Re: Oyster pin porn [Re: dr0384]
#26859776 - 08/02/20 09:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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1st you fuel pellets is what I would use. They are like $6 for 40 lbs. A 40 lb bag of fuel pellets will get you over 30 5 lb blocks. If you can't get fuel pellets. I don't know what to tell you on how to do wood chips.
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SHROOMSISAY01 said: 1st you fuel pellets is what I would use. They are like $6 for 40 lbs. A 40 lb bag of fuel pellets will get you over 30 5 lb blocks. If you can't get fuel pellets. I don't know what to tell you on how to do wood chips.
Çheers yea I use wood pellets. I've got some at home. Just making some bags up now actually.
So I could just pasteurise pellets and won't be the contamination risk that comes with wheat bran?
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Re: Oyster pin porn [Re: dr0384]
#26859857 - 08/02/20 10:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I use supplements but from what I understand you will have good success just pasteurizing fuel pellets. It is a good idea to use my tek to figure out the moisture content. Once you know what your moisture content is you will have better success and you won't have to wonder if it is your moisture content if you do have a problem.
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Cheers. I am planning on using you tek.
Get my measurements right.
It's only I have a large spawn bag already colonised. So I need to use this on pasturised sawdust and I cannot sterelise bag enough for its size.
So I'll do as you say and pasturise plain sawdust.
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Re: Oyster pin porn [Re: dr0384]
#26859881 - 08/02/20 11:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Have not even looked at these. They're in outdoor greenhouse. But it's been pretty dry this week.
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Re: Oyster pin porn [Re: dr0384]
#26859904 - 08/02/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are those oystr mushrooms? If so you need to get some more FAE.
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I didn't even think about you pasturing. I don't know how you would pasteurize and get the correct water content. I think I would figure out how much water to use on each bag. Then I would just use that amount of boiling water by just putting the boiling water in each bag and see how that works out.
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