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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #26857238 - 08/01/20 12:34 PM (5 days, 20 hours ago)

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What makes you think I want you to go?




I dunno, maybe saying in your previous post I had nothing useful to contribute. :lol:

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In all honesty, it is always a disappointment when a poster such as yourself melts too hard and catches a ban.  Since you brought up the topic of challenging bad ideas with good ones, I'll go ahead and post this short vid of Barry Schwartz talking about idea technology and the dangers inherent to shit ideology.  I've posted this several times over the years and I'm sure that almost nobody has taken the 20 min to watch so I don't expect you to be the exception but I'm putting it here anyway






That was a good video and I agreed with basically everything he said.

There's some irony in saying something may not be human nature but instead is bad ideology that has influenced that human... it's inadvertently asserting that it IS indeed human nature to be easily influenced by ideas!

Another way of saying it would be something like... it is human nature to be overly susceptible to the influences around us even when they aren't truthful.

So either it is in our nature to be inherently good or evil, or it is in our nature to be influenced to be good or evil. Either way, we have an exploitable nature once you know how the human species tick.

My take is it's a mix of both. "Nature vs Nurture" and all that Psychology 101 stuff.

If there was a larger point you wanted to make, I didn't catch it... unless you wanted to assert I have bad ideology. (Like near the beginning of the video when the guy asserts bad ideology lasts longer than bad science because it can't be dis-proven as easily.)


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26857260 - 08/01/20 01:01 PM (5 days, 19 hours ago)

I belive it was in relation to the Unibomber and his anti-tech ideology. With the video above, Theodore's ideology and how it can foster permanence, rather than the impermanence of tech.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26857269 - 08/01/20 01:07 PM (5 days, 19 hours ago)

I hope you are right. Biden is no 60% more likely to win then Trump. Right now I cannot imagine Trump winning. Remember though Trump is a dirty dirty player and somehow has the charm to make his opponents seem insignificant and incompetent. A lot of what the election rides on now is how the rest of the year turns out. Economic recovery. Reopenings. Coronavirus numbers dropping significantly. A vaccine.

If I thought the election would happen at the end of the month of August I would see Trump losing big. But Trump plays the card up his sleeve like no one I have ever seen. He is a big schemer when it comes to looking bad now with a big surprise. He has done this most of his life. Hell I thought he would lose the 2016 election for sure. But sure enough just when his cards looked bad he pulled the ace out of his sleeve and blew everyone else off the table showing he had the best hand. He is really really really good at being a lousy person who anticipates others stupidity as a means to gain ahead for himself.

No one ever seems to see it coming. Articles like this seem to help clear it up for me:







https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/dont-count-trump-out-yet-heres-how-he-can-still-win-in-november-2020-06-30

"Opinion: Don’t count Trump out yet — here’s how he can still win in November
Published: July 4, 2020 at 10:01 a.m. ET
By Paul Brandus
Trump can hope for a cure, or hope the economy recovers, or he can just do what he does best: go dirty
President Donald Trump still has a prayer.
President Donald Trump still has a prayer. AFP via Getty Images
This election is over. Trump is so far behind, he’s such a buffoon, he doesn’t have a chance.

Sound familiar? It should, because that’s what most people were saying back in the summer of 2016. How’d that work out?

Now the New York/Washington/Left Coast elites are at it again. Stick a fork in the Donald, they cackle — he’s done!


Is it different this time? Or can Trump shock the world again?

There are tons of reasons why Trump should not win. He’s failed on most of his big promises. There’s no wall. The national debt, which he vowed to eliminate (through trade deals) has exploded. Meantime, Iran and North Korea are more dangerous than ever.

He’s the Mount Everest of dishonesty. Not only has he not drained Washington’s swamp as promised, he’s made it swampier than ever. Numerous associates have been indicted, convicted, pled guilty, tossed in the can, abused the public trust, and more. Trump said he only hires “the very best,” and this is what we get?

‘I really don’t care do U?’
But guess what? Millions of Americans don’t seem to care. They’ve always known that Trump was a stooge. Here are three takeaways from 2016 exit polls conducted by CNN:


• Just 1 in 3 thought Trump was honest and trustworthy

• Less than 2 in 5 had a favorable opinion of him

• Barely a third — 35% — said he had the right temperament for the job

And he still got 63 million votes! This says as much about the American electorate as it does about Trump.


Lots of Trumpers know the president’s a jerk. They know he’s rude, crude, and embarrasses himself on Twitter. And yet they say he gets stuff done. He got tax cuts, two Supreme Court justices, and (through June 1) nearly 200 of his appointees have been put on the federal bench. Trump could lose in November but his mark on American society will endure well into mid-century through these judges. Trump’s base loves him for these things, and most of them—but not all—will vote for him again.

Narrow path to re-election
As Trump and four other presidents have shown, you don’t have to win the popular vote to win the presidency. He won’t win it this year, either. The question: Can he win the Electoral College?

The president’s path has narrowed considerably.

According to the well-regarded Crystal Ball—put out by the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics—Joe Biden, soon to be coronated as the Democratic nominee, has 268 “safe, likely, or leaning” electoral votes, while Trump has 204. There are only four states, the Crystal Ball says, that remain true toss ups: Florida, North Carolina, Arizona and Wisconsin. Together, they have 65 electoral votes.

The current prediction for the 2020 presidential election from Larry Sabato's Crystal Ball shows Democrat Joe Biden with a big but not insurmountable lead over President Donald Trump.
The current prediction for the 2020 presidential election from Larry Sabato's Crystal Ball shows Democrat Joe Biden with a big but not insurmountable lead over President Donald Trump.Center for Politics

Biden only needs one of these, and leads in all four by an average of 3.8 points (median 5.1) But Trump needs them all, the poker equivalent of drawing an inside straight. Not impossible, but highly improbable. That would get him to 269, enough to win.


There is also the oddity of two states—Maine and Nebraska—which do not allocate their electoral votes in winner-take-all fashion. It’s too complicated to explain here, other than to say a single electoral vote in say, Maine, could tip the entire election.

Why can a candidate win with 269 and not 270? Because an Electoral College tie (extremely unlikely) would be decided by the incoming House of Representatives, with each state delegation getting one vote.

Right now, this favors Republicans. Even though they have fewer House seats overall, the GOP controls 26 state delegations to the Democrats’ 23 (Pennsylvania is evenly divided). So if it came down to a House vote, whichever party controlled the most state delegations in the new Congress would pick the president. The Democrats would have to wrest control of at least three more state delegations, and they could do just that.

Making all this even more bizarre: the Senate would pick the vice president. Right now the GOP controls the Senate. What if one party picked the president and another the vice president? It simply doesn’t get any stranger than this.

But again, this is all quite unlikely. Biden appears to be in the driver’s seat as we approach the four-month mark.

So what can Trump do to get there?

The economy, the virus, or?
To state the obvious: A coronavirus cure would help (not that he would have anything to do with it), as would clear evidence that the economy is on the mend. But first-quarter gross domestic product was -5.0%. That’s bad, but the second quarter—which (so far) saw the worst of the coronavirus—looks downright apocalyptic: perhaps -39.5%, according to an estimate issued last week by the Atlanta Federal Reserve.

The third quarter, which begins Wednesday, could be great—and the first reading on that could mean good news for Trump just days before the election. On the other hand, with the virus now ravaging big states like Texas and Florida, this is far from certain.

Trump can hope that voters don’t blame him for the economic shutdown. He’s blames the governors, which is largely true, but if that’s the case, then the president is throwing two swing-state Republicans under the bus: Florida’s Ron DeSantis and Arizona’s Doug Ducey.

The president could also try to convince voters that his tariffs and trade wars have been a good thing. But tariff is just another word for taxes on the end user, and there’s plenty of data that adds to the president’s vulnerability.

Go dirty
Trump also has another, often ignored disadvantage. Many of his 2016 voters weren’t so much voting for him as they were voting against Hillary Clinton. The percentage of Americans who have a “very negative” view of Biden is about 25%, whereas Clinton’s at this point in 2016 was about 42%. Trump has failed to paint “Sleepy Joe” as a monster the way he did “Crooked Hillary,” and I suspect he won’t be able to.

I think the best path for Trump, sadly, may be to do what he does best: go dirty. He has admitted that he can’t win with mail-in balloting, so what does Trump (who votes by mail himself) do? He claims it’s rife with fraud. This is a huge lie.

There have also been state-level efforts to purge voter rolls and reduce the number of polling places, measures that disproportionately hurt minority voters. Trump squawked that 2016 was rigged (until he won), and we’re beginning to hear similar talk again.

And even though Trump seems to think that the coronavirus has gone away, the fact is it could cause problems like understaffed polling places, leading to long lines and chaos."


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It's like the trick to human problems is to be even more human. Not less human but as human as possible, only understanding human nature.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: imachavel]
    #26857282 - 08/01/20 01:12 PM (5 days, 19 hours ago)



Maybe Harrison Ford can give us some advice on how to deal with White House corruption. He has some experience confronting the POTUS and living to tell about it. Its a tough venture.


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The point to meditating is to feel the same when you are meditation as when you aren't. To be balanced inside and out. Difficult to do when being aware of breath and sensation. However, not impossible. Feeling ok about yourself at all times seems to be a great difficult skill to master. The concept so simple a snail could understand it. To practice it some of the greatest Albert Einstein type minds couldn't master it.

It's like the trick to human problems is to be even more human. Not less human but as human as possible, only understanding human nature.

Understanding subtleties is hard. What is subtle? Subtle is powerful. Atoms are subtle. Atoms make up everything we are. Understanding subtleties is one of the hardest parts of life.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: imachavel]
    #26857401 - 08/01/20 03:01 PM (5 days, 17 hours ago)

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Enlil said:
I've never seen a more profound case of dunning-kruger effect.



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26857608 - 08/01/20 05:46 PM (5 days, 14 hours ago)

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Arizona seems pretty fucked.

Or maybe they will emerge as America's new super-economy after everyone develops immunity and they can focus on rebuilding while the rest of America still plays shrodinger's covid. :lol:




https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity

Yeah, people can get this more than once. This whole concept of just getting the virus and getting it over with doesn't work in this case. Also, don't forget about the organ damage that can come with even mild symptoms.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #26857639 - 08/01/20 06:15 PM (5 days, 14 hours ago)

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Vahn421 said:
Arizona seems pretty fucked.

Or maybe they will emerge as America's new super-economy after everyone develops immunity and they can focus on rebuilding while the rest of America still plays shrodinger's covid. :lol:




https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity

Yeah, people can get this more than once. This whole concept of just getting the virus and getting it over with doesn't work in this case. Also, don't forget about the organ damage that can come with even mild symptoms.




We're not going to be able to strangle it out of existence. It's going to be something we're just going to have to live with. I'm skeptical of stories like this. We'd be hearing a lot more of them if these cases weren't just one-in-a-million flukes of someone's immune system not doing its job properly.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Vahn421] * 3
    #26857661 - 08/01/20 06:34 PM (5 days, 14 hours ago)

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Vahn421 said:
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qman said:
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Vahn421 said:
Arizona seems pretty fucked.

Or maybe they will emerge as America's new super-economy after everyone develops immunity and they can focus on rebuilding while the rest of America still plays shrodinger's covid. :lol:




https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity

Yeah, people can get this more than once. This whole concept of just getting the virus and getting it over with doesn't work in this case. Also, don't forget about the organ damage that can come with even mild symptoms.




We're not going to be able to strangle it out of existence. It's going to be something we're just going to have to live with. I'm skeptical of stories like this. We'd be hearing a lot more of them if these cases weren't just one-in-a-million flukes of someone's immune system not doing its job properly.




I don't think exercising respectable amounts of caution means we hope the virus goes out of existence.

It's really too early in the pandemic to know if people can get the virus again from mutated strains or not, but we definitely getting data that serious organ damage is occurring in many cases regardless of the seriousness of the symptoms. That reason alone is enough to justify using extreme caution to avoid getting the virus.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26857663 - 08/01/20 06:36 PM (5 days, 14 hours ago)

You gotta have faith that this new Covid pandemic is just a minor ailment.  Not crazy to speculate on long term effects.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #26857678 - 08/01/20 06:47 PM (5 days, 13 hours ago)

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You gotta have faith that this new Covid pandemic is just a minor ailment.  Not crazy to speculate on long term effects.





There's no speculating on what's about to happen to our economy if we don't get back to 100%. We can exercise caution with masks or whatever people want, but the damage Covid is doing will be a drop in the bucket compared to the suffering that will occur due to economic collapse.

I already said this twice but, we already have over 10,000 children who have died in third world countries related to the lockdown and tens of thousands of adults as well. We're just getting started, here.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Vahn421] * 5
    #26857731 - 08/01/20 07:34 PM (5 days, 13 hours ago)

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Vahn421 said:
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SirTripAlot said:
You gotta have faith that this new Covid pandemic is just a minor ailment.  Not crazy to speculate on long term effects.





There's no speculating on what's about to happen to our economy if we don't get back to 100%. We can exercise caution with masks or whatever people want, but the damage Covid is doing will be a drop in the bucket compared to the suffering that will occur due to economic collapse.

I already said this twice but, we already have over 10,000 children who have died in third world countries related to the lockdown and tens of thousands of adults as well. We're just getting started, here.




There is no economic collapse, but there's different methods to deal with the massive slowdown of large parts of the economy.

Have you noticed that Wall Street hasn't collapsed, but instead is thriving?  Why is that?  Oh, they got trillions and trillions of free money to avoid any economic pain.

So why can't the same method get applied to Main Street?  Oh, now there's the problem, The Elite don't want to help Main Street. So you see, it's all a choice what the economic ramifications are when it comes to this economic slowdown.

I highly suggest not buying into The Elite's propaganda about having to return to economic normalcy or else. It's complete bullshit and all they want is their high profits at the expense of the working class getting sick. They don't give a fuck, so don't buy into their nonsense.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 2
    #26857768 - 08/01/20 07:59 PM (5 days, 12 hours ago)

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qman said:
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Vahn421 said:
Arizona seems pretty fucked.

Or maybe they will emerge as America's new super-economy after everyone develops immunity and they can focus on rebuilding while the rest of America still plays shrodinger's covid. :lol:




https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/getting-covid-19-twice-reinfection-antibody-herd-immunity

Yeah, people can get this more than once. This whole concept of just getting the virus and getting it over with doesn't work in this case. Also, don't forget about the organ damage that can come with even mild symptoms.




They don't even have a vaccine yet and they are already suggesting people may have to get the vaccine several times. I'm more worried about the organ damage. Quality of life is more important to me than being alive.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26857782 - 08/01/20 08:12 PM (5 days, 12 hours ago)

I'm worried about immune compromise related to organ damage, letting covid race towards herd immunity to covid could be also a race towards herd vunerability to infections other than covid. Tht may have ramifications to the stealthy wealthy that they may have not figured on, besides the loss of some shock troops.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #26857837 - 08/01/20 08:55 PM (5 days, 11 hours ago)

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Vahn421 said:
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SirTripAlot said:
You gotta have faith that this new Covid pandemic is just a minor ailment.  Not crazy to speculate on long term effects.





There's no speculating on what's about to happen to our economy if we don't get back to 100%. We can exercise caution with masks or whatever people want, but the damage Covid is doing will be a drop in the bucket compared to the suffering that will occur due to economic collapse.

I already said this twice but, we already have over 10,000 children who have died in third world countries related to the lockdown and tens of thousands of adults as well. We're just getting started, here.




There is no economic collapse, but there's different methods to deal with the massive slowdown of large parts of the economy.

Have you noticed that Wall Street hasn't collapsed, but instead is thriving?  Why is that?  Oh, they got trillions and trillions of free money to avoid any economic pain.

So why can't the same method get applied to Main Street?  Oh, now there's the problem, The Elite don't want to help Main Street. So you see, it's all a choice what the economic ramifications are when it comes to this economic slowdown.

I highly suggest not buying into The Elite's propaganda about having to return to economic normalcy or else. It's complete bullshit and all they want is their high profits at the expense of the working class getting sick. They don't give a fuck, so don't buy into their nonsense.




I mean we could get into the cabal and the satanic pedophile elite that own this country and control almost all our media and information... but some people are still convinced it's just a conspiracy. :lol:

I agree there's a whole lot more going on than what is on the surface and that rich and powerful people are more interested in preserving themselves and their circles than the rest of us.

I disagree that the economy isn't fucked. We're on a downward spiral circling the drain and I don't think anything is going to allow us to recover because our paranoid attitudes about covid are too strong. In fact, I'm pretty sure the dems are going to run the covid scare into the ground and take us all with them. They'll throw millions of Americans under the bus just to get Trump out of the white house.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: waves] * 1
    #26857888 - 08/01/20 09:37 PM (5 days, 11 hours ago)

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waves said:


Adding question marks to a statement doesn't make it is a question. It just means he doesn't know how to properly use punctuation.

It actually reads much more like a demand.



To me, it sounded like Trump saying we should make our elections more secure and safe, so we don't have the debacle that was the Democratic Primaries.

I don't have TDS, so I don't make believe that Trump means the stupidest thing anyone can think of.

And if anyone disagrees with me on this, I'll make a signature bet that the election doesn't get delayed, and that MagicMush was right that this is all just just a nothing burger.

Don't believe it?  Take my signature bet.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26857891 - 08/01/20 09:39 PM (5 days, 11 hours ago)

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The GDP shrank at a annualized rate of 32% last quarter. There is no recovery around the corner until the pandemic is under control. He can try to bullshit all he wants but people aren’t stupid.



The stupid people blame Trump for the global pandemic.  :shrug:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26857918 - 08/01/20 10:01 PM (5 days, 10 hours ago)

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qman said:
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Vahn421 said:
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SirTripAlot said:
You gotta have faith that this new Covid pandemic is just a minor ailment.  Not crazy to speculate on long term effects.





There's no speculating on what's about to happen to our economy if we don't get back to 100%. We can exercise caution with masks or whatever people want, but the damage Covid is doing will be a drop in the bucket compared to the suffering that will occur due to economic collapse.

I already said this twice but, we already have over 10,000 children who have died in third world countries related to the lockdown and tens of thousands of adults as well. We're just getting started, here.




There is no economic collapse, but there's different methods to deal with the massive slowdown of large parts of the economy.

Have you noticed that Wall Street hasn't collapsed, but instead is thriving?  Why is that?  Oh, they got trillions and trillions of free money to avoid any economic pain.

So why can't the same method get applied to Main Street?  Oh, now there's the problem, The Elite don't want to help Main Street. So you see, it's all a choice what the economic ramifications are when it comes to this economic slowdown.

I highly suggest not buying into The Elite's propaganda about having to return to economic normalcy or else. It's complete bullshit and all they want is their high profits at the expense of the working class getting sick. They don't give a fuck, so don't buy into their nonsense.




I mean we could get into the cabal and the satanic pedophile elite that own this country and control almost all our media and information... but some people are still convinced it's just a conspiracy. :lol:

I agree there's a whole lot more going on than what is on the surface and that rich and powerful people are more interested in preserving themselves and their circles than the rest of us.

I disagree that the economy isn't fucked. We're on a downward spiral circling the drain and I don't think anything is going to allow us to recover because our paranoid attitudes about covid are too strong. In fact, I'm pretty sure the dems are going to run the covid scare into the ground and take us all with them. They'll throw millions of Americans under the bus just to get Trump out of the white house.




Yes, the economy will be fucked if the government doesn't provide rent/mortgage relief, small business relief, student loan relief, consumer debt relief, universal health care, unemployment relief and many other support mechanisms in a depression economy.

Again, I explain to you it's all a choice here. You seem to think it's not. The Elite are picking the winners and losers, it has nothing to do with economic collapse.

Trump could have avoided all of this economic distress you're concerned with, instead he watched as Wall Street got trillions and Main Street gets fucked.


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    #26857948 - 08/01/20 10:17 PM (5 days, 10 hours ago)

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Yes, the economy will be fucked if the government doesn't provide rent/mortgage relief, small business relief, student loan relief, consumer debt relief, universal health care, unemployment relief and many other support mechanisms in a depression economy.

Again, I explain to you it's all a choice here. You seem to think it's not. The Elite are picking the winners and losers, it has nothing to do with economic collapse.

Trump could have avoided all of this economic distress you're concerned with, instead he watched as Wall Street got trillions and Main Street gets fucked.




I think the GOP bill that is being proposed provides 900 Billion dollars of relief through unemployment as well as funding for schools and other public services. I also think Pelosi was working on passing another bill with even more money for a stimulus package.

All of this is going to add... what.... 5 trillion dollars to the deficit in less than a year? This is not sustainable. You can't just keep printing money to keep an economy going. Goods and services don't grow on trees (I wish they did. Hah...), and as people stay out of work and these things become more scarce, we're just going to see the price of things go up... and up... and up.


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The GDP shrank at a annualized rate of 32% last quarter. There is no recovery around the corner until the pandemic is under control. He can try to bullshit all he wants but people aren’t stupid.



The stupid people blame Trump for the global pandemic.  :shrug:




Jfc dude this country’s covid situation is a complete clusterfuck and the federal government isn’t doing a fucking thing.


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    #26858123 - 08/02/20 02:30 AM (5 days, 6 hours ago)

What do you think they should be doing that they aren't?


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