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The great Iso shortage of 2020!
#26857490 - 08/01/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey guys as we all know Isopropyl Alcohol is a neccessary tool in this hobby. You have to have it. Since the Coronavirus started back in March. I have not been able to find it anywhere. I've been checking every store I walked in for months now with absolutely no luck. The whole world freaked out over the Coronavirus and bought all the toilet paper, bleach, hand sanitizer, air sanitizer, and Isopropyl Alcohol. So how are you guys getting by? I found some ethanol 95%. I was going to try and do the math to get it down to 70% but yea what are you guys doing?
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Crazy Trips]
#26857494 - 08/01/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The corner store at my place has it. I have found that looking for it online is pointless since people are price gouging. Try to go to physical markets/pharmacies if you can.
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Crazy Trips]
#26857509 - 08/01/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Crazy Trips said: Hey guys as we all know Isopropyl Alcohol is a neccessary tool in this hobby.
It's really not. You don't even need to use it at all.
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: nooneman]
#26857514 - 08/01/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's crazy maybe it's just around here. I've went to every pharmacy and grocery store around here. Nobody has had it for months.
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Crazy Trips]
#26857517 - 08/01/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The math is easy! M1V1 = M2V2
Rearrange the formula so that it's (M1V1)/(M2) = V2
M1 = Original concentration = 0.95
V1 = Whatever volume you are diluting. If you're diluting, say, 500mLs of ethanol, then that is what you plug in there
M2 = The concentration after dilution = 0.70
So, for example, [(0.95)(500mL)]/(0.70) = V2
V2 would be the final volume = about 679mLs
That's the final volume, to get to that volume you just add (679-500) = 179 mLs of water
Edited by meowjinx (08/01/20 04:20 PM)
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: meowjinx]
#26857521 - 08/01/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I probably could have figured the math out but thanks for the help. I was more just wondering if everyone was having the same problem and had to do the same thing?
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Crazy Trips]
#26857532 - 08/01/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've been able to find it in nearby grocery stores. The only thing I absolutely cannot find anywhere is Lysol
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: meowjinx]
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: TheBoJim]
#26857548 - 08/01/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea Lysol has been tough too. I've found Ozium a couple times and stocked up. I like Ozium but it's kind of expensive. And that link went too a 55 gallon drum of iso. Who needs 1500 bucks in Alcohol?
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Crazy Trips]
#26857553 - 08/01/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know it's in high demand, but even in bulk that's $6.60/quart plus tax and hazmat shipping on a ~390lb drum of iso. Yikes.
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Crazy Trips said: I found some ethanol 95%. I was going to try and do the math to get it down to 70% but yea what are you guys doing?
Be cautious with 95% ethanol. It has to be denatured with something to avoid liquor regulations and often they use methanol to do it. Even just 5% is going to make it pretty unpleasant to use for sanitizing.
Haven't seen any iso in the big stores since March either; been coasting on a couple quarts of 70% I bought late last year. I use it very sparingly anyway and still have probably 3/4 remaining.
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Crazy Trips]
#26857559 - 08/01/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ive never needed lysol I have a can of generic I bought for some reason thinking I would use it but never did its like 10 years old and all the way full haha...one of the bigger cans
But you can get alcohol if you catch them on the right day at dollar general or family dollar or your smaller pharmacies and general stores and what not, some times
Even my local small grocery stoer has had stock of "liquid hand sanitizer" that is just 80% alcohol for a long while. Smells like liquor and is in what looks like a plastic liquor bottle lol. . ...often enough to keep up supply.
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: sandman420]
#26857595 - 08/01/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I went into a store before the madness started and there was a big display of 91 iso, so I knew I was going to need it for cleaning a couple projects so I bought 8 bottles, glad I did, I haven’t seen it since...
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: sandman420] 1
#26857599 - 08/01/20 05:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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stop wasting $ on lysol then its the perfect time to do that😃 i never ever ever use lysol. but what i do to get iso is go to walmart soon as they open and get it when shelves are freshly stocked. sometimes i have to go there and wait in line in the mornin a cpl days in a row but sooner or later youl get it. they will only let u buy 1 bottle at a time tho so be sneaky with it an load your cart up with other shit and use the self checkout. this is what i was doing up til last week where my work was able to order a 55gallon drum of 91% so now i can just bring in milk jugs and fill them up even 1 little bottle lasts me a cpl months in my spray bottle. so il just dillute the 91% down to 70% as i fill my bottle up. but if u do that at walmart u will get it eventually. it sux that h gtta do it but you can thank the covid panic ridden morons for that good luck to u👍👍
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: jcm4620]
#26857689 - 08/01/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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jcm4620 said:but what i do to get iso is go to walmart soon as they open and get it when shelves are freshly stocked. sometimes i have to go there and wait in line in the mornin a cpl days in a row but sooner or later youl get it.
God that sounds so depressing
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Just came back from the nearest grocery store and they were out of iso... -_-
I'd go at the butt crack of dawn if I had the self-discipline to wake up that early. I also have a Wal-Mart near me so I'll check there tomorrow. I'm gearing up on my next grow and I only have half a bottle of iso left
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: meowjinx]
#26857698 - 08/01/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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TheBoJim said: https://labproinc.com/featured-chemicals-and-solvents/isopropyl-alcohol-7030-ipa-70-55-gallons
Other people have mentioned you can dilute the liquor Everclear as an option. I have personally never seen it at any liquor store in my state but that might work in your area. Maybe give some liquor stores a call. If its anything like a bookstore they will order for you upon request
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I did what jcm said and when I finally did catch it stocked up I bought 6. Over a gallon of iso should last me years I'm sure. Walmart early in the AM and you should hopefully have some luck.
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Hey thanks for the tip guys. I'm going to try Walmart in the morning. I've been bumming some from a couple of my friends and now I was going to try some everclear 190 proof. Mix that in a little water and it should work. But hopefully I'll catch some in the morning. I check Walmart all the time but it's always in the afternoon.
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TheBoJim said: https://labproinc.com/featured-chemicals-and-solvents/isopropyl-alcohol-7030-ipa-70-55-gallons
Other people have mentioned you can dilute the liquor Everclear as an option. I have personally never seen it at any liquor store in my state but that might work in your area. Maybe give some liquor stores a call. If its anything like a bookstore they will order for you upon request 
You kind of have to tap a shoulder for everclear. They keep it in the back room. Ask the guy at the counter. Thats how it works around here anyway.
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Really? It's right on the shelf at the package stores around here, right beside the vodka, next to the vodquila
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: tgriff02]
#26858013 - 08/01/20 11:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol I don't think the Oregon liquor control commission approves of that shit for human consumption.
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It depends on the state. They sell it off the shelf here but in some states you have to have a permit to get it.
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Crazy Trips]
#26858328 - 08/02/20 07:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Found it at my local walgreens a couple weeks back. Had to do two transactions to get two bottles but they were cool about it.
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: jerrylove]
#26858377 - 08/02/20 08:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've had luck at Walgreens and Dollar general
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well if ur as fed up as i am with it and you have a connection from an industrial supplier of chemicals/gas and can get a 55 gallon drum do it lol il never have to buy if again. especially since its 91% and il be dilluting it. that shit is gnna last me forever or fucking close to it. cuz even one of the small bottles will fill my spray bottle and one fill of that last me a cpl months
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: jcm4620]
#26858392 - 08/02/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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the only shitty thing is now i have a 1400$ payroll deduction loan to pay back lol
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: jcm4620]
#26858399 - 08/02/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm sure the neighbors definitely don't think you have a methlab when you rolled that in the garage 
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: sandman420]
#26858400 - 08/02/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol no i just leave it at work and fill up a gallon jug as needed
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: jcm4620]
#26858406 - 08/02/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Everclear (95% ethanol) over here for the past month. Will report on results, but no problems using it for agar and transfers yet.
Seemed like a good purchase at the time because if it all fails I'll have something to deal with the bad night I'll be having. $40 for 1.75L
I remember some lab supply selling 5gal containers of 90% for $50 back in February and boy do I regret not getting one.
Edited by AlsetAlokin (08/02/20 08:44 AM)
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: AlsetAlokin]
#26858527 - 08/02/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Auto parts store. Heet in the red bottle. Certainly not cost effective but it's full strength.
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Doyledozo]
#26858691 - 08/02/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Been growing without ISO for a month now.. not sure what part of the hobby alcohol is a 'required' for.
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smalltalk_canceled said: Been growing without ISO for a month now.. not sure what part of the hobby alcohol is a 'required' for.
I'm not a veteran but it seems like: Wiping instruments and containers before putting them in SAB Sanitizing hands/gloves before handling sterilized equipment Anything that you want to clean without having residue on after (alcohol evaporates fairly quickly without having to be wiped)
I wouldn't trust handling my jars or dishes pre-colonization without alcohol sanitized hands/gloves.
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: AlsetAlokin]
#26858888 - 08/02/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Walmart.com has 2x32oz 70% iso for $4 plus shipping (free for $35+ orders). It's the best online source I've found and has been consistently in stock for most of the past two months.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/2-Pack-Equate-70-Isopropyl-Alcohol-32-Oz/706238851
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Crazy Trips]
#26859074 - 08/02/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I found a good price for a gallon off an online nail supplier during the height of the first covid wave. I've been using vinegar and soap and water, Clorox wipes for jars and such. I've only used just over half of the jug in about 3 months, I just make intelligent use of it and don't douse everything in it. I also managed to get a case of ISO wipes off of ebay for a good price and I have been using those for my hands when I am working with my SAB.
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: AlsetAlokin]
#26859186 - 08/02/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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smalltalk_canceled said: Been growing without ISO for a month now.. not sure what part of the hobby alcohol is a 'required' for.
I'm not a veteran but it seems like: Wiping instruments and containers before putting them in SAB Sanitizing hands/gloves before handling sterilized equipment Anything that you want to clean without having residue on after (alcohol evaporates fairly quickly without having to be wiped)
I wouldn't trust handling my jars or dishes pre-colonization without alcohol sanitized hands/gloves.
Agree to most, but unless your jars or dishes have imperfect seals (lids) I dont see the problem. It's the inside of them I want clean. Thats done through the PC process. I treat one use gloves as sterile if you dont actually touch anything with them before you go into the SAB, I know they aren't or wont always be, but I'm simply not seeing contaminations because of this.
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Got a 5 gal drum of 99% reagent grade ISO for about $180 from a science supply store in March that I dilute. About double what the small bottles in the grocery store cost but the time saved searching has been worth it, reckon one should last at least six months. Also I've been seeing what I presume to be 70% iso or ethyl sold as "liquid hand sanitizer", also costlier than normal but it's probably effective.
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Rapjack]
#26859455 - 08/02/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow that really worked. Just ordered 2 bottles for 10 bucks after shipping off Walmart.com. Thanks for the tip Shroomio
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Doyledozo]
#26859544 - 08/02/20 07:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gloves are another thing. I reuse mine until they tear and then only replace that one. They last a long time if you're careful.
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Doyledozo said: Auto parts store. Heet in the red bottle. Certainly not cost effective but it's full strength.
NO! Iso-Heet has petroleum solvent in it as "fuel injector cleaner." I got some last week thinking I was clever and it's gross stuff. Turns milky upon dilution and stinks even worse than straight iso. The SDS doesn't even say what the petroleum component is. Rest of the bottle went in the car's tank just to be rid of it.
Before someone asks about Heet in the yellow bottle, it's methanol and not good for sanitizing.
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10% bleach solution in a spray bottle. cheap easy and reliable. I only use it sanitize tubs, clean sab before sessions, and wipe down stuff going on the box
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Drboomer]
#26861031 - 08/03/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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What iso shortage? I thought that ended like a month or two ago. I got like 3 bottles of 70% right now. There are limits but it’s always at Walmart/target for me
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: CrashTest]
#26862917 - 08/04/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lucky you. It hasn't been in a Walmart or any other kind of grocery store or pharmacy around here for months. I finally ordered some online.
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Crazy Trips]
#26862922 - 08/04/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Disposable gloves is another thing I can't find anywhere.
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Crazy Trips]
#26862941 - 08/04/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you have hydroponic grow stores check those out. They usually carry the nice thick black nitriles. I reuse them until they break.
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Rapjack]
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Also maybe try Harbor Freight for gloves
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: CrashTest]
#26863694 - 08/05/20 12:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also grow stores for iso, most carry it in 5 gal buckets for cleanin scissors
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Re: The great Iso shortage of 2020! [Re: Crazy Trips]
#26863702 - 08/05/20 01:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Came here to say this. I have friends and family ordering for me rn.
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