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Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity 2
#26857018 - 08/01/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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NOT EVEN THE DEVIL BURNS IN HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY.
I spoke with God directly, like the Holy Books say we can, and asked Him to teach me directly, so that I could speak of His words here, for you all, and most especially for you, reading this.
God told me:
"There is great misunderstanding in the religions that exist upon the earth. One of the most tragic ones is the miserable image of burning in Hell for all eternity.
I ask you to go into the world and proclaim that burning in Hell for all eternity does not exist.
I am a Lover more than a Hater, a Giver and a Forgiver.
My Love is Infinite and my Forgiveness, complete.
The Devil was the first to leave Heaven and will be the last to return to it, not to overthrow Heaven but because there is a time for everything and there will be a time that even the Devil repents and returns to Heaven where I will meet Him with open arms in full forgiveness for all he has done.
My Love will not even allow for the Devil himself to burn in Hell forever, to be wayward from my Love, forever.
DO NOT FEAR OR WISH ETERNAL DAMNATION ON ANYONE - ETERNAL LOVE IS ALL THAT EXISTS.
The shepherd's staff serves to sometimes beat a sheep and sometimes to lift a sheep out of peril but the shepherd's staff in My hand always serves the furthering of the greater good and your personal good.
You can Accept Me or Reject Me, but I, your God, will never, not ever, reject any of you, no matter how wayward or wicked.
I rule with Faith - Hope - Love The Devil works on you with Fear - Doubt - Pain.
Listen to your preacher! Is he ruling you with Faith Hope and Love or raising your fear with threats of Hell Fire and Eternal Damnation?
Every Sin is a Mistake.
What Loving Father punishes a few mistakes with Eternal Damnation? No Loving Father! It would be a Devil making such threats and even the Devil is powerless to make that threat come true.
I am the God of All Things. The Devil has NO power over Me and I have All power over him. He is Forgiven.
You did bad. You sinned and it eats at you. You WILL have to atone for it in your life and death but one thing is clear and rub your eyes so you read this exactly as it says:
I HAVE COMPLETELY FORGIVEN OF YOU, ALL SINS.
That does not mean you should not be Righteous because the world needs you Righteous -- it means that the Grand Master of Space, Time and All Things will NEVER let you suffer for all Eternity - and I will never erase you from the Book of All Things.
YOU are ESSENTIAL to My Plan for ALL ETERNITY."
It is these words He spoke, and I am but the messenger, the bearer of His Message, in all humility, just one of His sons, asked to deliver a Message that emphasizes the triumph of Love over Fear.
Nobody burns in Hell forever -- Not even the Devil.
I apologize if anybody feels offended or wronged by this. As you can understand, I have no choice but to obey the Most High in bringing you this message.
Peace to all.
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: Asante]
#26857367 - 08/01/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: Asante] 1
#26858077 - 08/02/20 12:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It would seem that the Clear Light of Unmitigated Reality is Heaven for the one identified with it and Hell for those who are identified with what we conventionally refer to as evil. Beings like Trump are all husk and no kernel, the latter being identical to the Light just as Atman is equal to Brahman in the Hindu idiom. I can imagine that the death of good people will be like slipping into a hot bath while the evil will experience the same immersion as volcanic lava. In the final words of The Dead, "Be kind."
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#26860079 - 08/03/20 06:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had a dream the other week, first off I've been struggling with my schizo stuff, kept having bad thoughts at the same time i had a good thought, religiously and blasphemies battling, but one night as I slept, I saw what looked like the old street fighter games for super nintendo, on one side was good thoughts, the other bad thoughts and they were fighting each other, and than I saw a scene from my life where I was in a room, at first I said "hey, I recognize that memory,,," but than I went evil in the memory and said "I deny you God I wanna do this alone without you!", I immediately said "hey wait! I Didn't say that!", but, the end of the dream is a little hard to remember but I had a glimpse of floating in the sky and the impression that it doesn't matter what you think,,,
I than woke up exactly on a spot of a Ajahn Brahm Dhamma Talk left playing where he was describing "unconditional love", he was saying something along the lines of "...no matter what you do, say or think, I will always love you,,,and if you don't accept that, that's hate." the way it coincided with the dream and waking left me spooked but relaxed at the same time,,,my thoughts are getting better me thinks BTW.
If there is no hell, atleast some good music came out of the theme!:
Califone & Modest Mouse (Slayer cover) lyrics
(me thinks this cover is creepier than the original.)
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: saintdextro] 1
#26861267 - 08/03/20 05:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It would seem that a good deal of schizophrenia-related conflict takes the archetypal form of God vs. Devil and the fervency of the struggle can easily be thought to be Hell. I am not denying hellish states of consciousness or that Hell is 'only in your head.' I may deny the artistic imagery we have from medieval artists or the notion that Hell is a physical place, i.e., in the Earth's magma core, but Hell is a real enough experience for many people whether mentally ill or not - those in prisons, gulags, concentration camps, starving to death, war-torn regions, warlord victims, dying of disease, etc., etc. Hellish conditions exist both on Earth and in one's mind.
Music that uplifts is far better than any type that increases negative feelings or elicits negative imagery, healthy or not. Even plants respond positively to some music, neutral to others, and demonstrably negative to others. For example, plants seem to flourish under Mozart, Bach or sitar, negatively to thrash/heavy metal. I do not know in all fairness whether these findings have held up over time, but even if they haven't, they still apply to my psyche.
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: Asante]
#26861901 - 08/04/20 01:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Everything dies.
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: turbulentflow]
#26861921 - 08/04/20 02:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hell yeah this schizo stuff been positive forces vs. negative forces, it started when I was 19, thought people were talking/playing jokes behind my back, progressively over the course of a year I started to think my family and friends were hiding a camera in my room, than they were reading my mind but really good at keeping this all as a secret, by the end of a year, when I was now 20, I for the first year and a half only heard 4 voices, two of my older brothers (devout Christian's) our Bible teacher, and a girl I couldn't identify, the four of them immediately began hammering me the question that I'm either Jesus Christ or the anti Christ, there were of course plenty of jokes through out (God bless my family), but I failed the test and they would terrify me saying I was the anti Christ, than the test would start over and they say I'm Jesus Christ π, after back and forth winning/ losing I remember my one brother assured me that no matter how many times I failed I always will get another chance to be Jesus and succeed, of course none of this made sense to me at the time, this is before many dreams and and other schizo evidence that we are a part of God, and that it's not that I'm literally Christ or the anti Christ but rather that's just symbolic of good person or bad person... The main problem with this was hurting/burdening my real life family. There was lots of dextrostat(at high doses) and 2c-i (also at unnecessary high dose, probably over a 100mg trips). After a stay at a hospital and being on shitty meds that made me a zombie, the voices went away for 6 months,but at 21 I started drinking regularly and the voices came back, only now and since I hear most everyone's voice, they have been positive most of the time (with some exception's) I really wish I could enjoy weed again, but that shit catches me in a thought loop thinking I'm going to hell, it's the worst nightmare, just started having bad trips on it last year.
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: saintdextro]
#26861930 - 08/04/20 03:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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On a note about music being influential, the year I went through the beginning of my schizo shit, Radiohead released "in rainbows" I bought the double vinyl/CD with the bonus tracks, abstract lyrics, sometimes negative, sometimes positive, like the last track "videotape",,,if I wasn't posting from my phone I would post it, I thought it was all about me! Worth checking out on YouTube, I find it very positive track. That's the sweet thing about life in this era, Radiohead, modest mouse and califone come out with a record every couple years and blow me away!
-------------------- "He who finds peace and joy And radiance within himself That man becomes one with God And vanishes into God's bliss." -Bhagavad Gita, 5.24 One 21 - Building Better Bombs One 21 - Pacified One 21 - Two Sides Is Fine "Respectability is a cloak for the hypocrite" - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: saintdextro]
#27068006 - 12/02/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ever heard of apollo 440? Outer E ring
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: Asante]
#27069158 - 12/02/20 11:51 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Would you say the devil/satan/lucifer, etc. is just a projected manifestation of the lower/fallen self that's present in all individual consciousness matrixes (human beings lol), Asante?
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27074133 - 12/05/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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You didn't ask me but I can give my own opinion on it. I've experienced this archetype/form/spirit while smoking DMT. It's not synonymus with the devil, the devil is just synonymus with pure evil, same as god is synoymus with good "God is good". Both these entities I have also been in contact with and they speak to you, the devil speak delusional hateful nonesense constantly while god is the opposite, advising you to have faith in yourself among other things. They feel like higher and lower waveforms to me.
As to the satanic archetype. It's basically a spirit of rebellion against karmic law. So for me it arouse when I had the feeling that I had had enough of being "judged" by the cosmic moral law, I felt like there was a power in me that would allow me to break free from those bounds. I could live fully independently according to my own wims and desires without consequence if I could only find the power to rise above the moral laws encoded into my soul. This is the idea of surmounting god's kingdom.
I think it relates better in many ways to the fenrir myth to me than the satan myth but I think it's the same thing.
As to whether the spirit is an entity in the same sense that a person is and actually tried to do this and was struck down for it, I can't really speak to it. But I guess that has to come from somewhere?
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: Grapefruit]
#27074473 - 12/06/20 01:30 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Grapefruit said: You didn't ask me but I can give my own opinion on it. I've experienced this archetype/form/spirit while smoking DMT. It's not synonymus with the devil, the devil is just synonymus with pure evil, same as god is synoymus with good "God is good". Both these entities I have also been in contact with and they speak to you, the devil speak delusional hateful nonesense constantly while god is the opposite, advising you to have faith in yourself among other things. They feel like higher and lower waveforms to me.
As to the satanic archetype. It's basically a spirit of rebellion against karmic law. So for me it arouse when I had the feeling that I had had enough of being "judged" by the cosmic moral law, I felt like there was a power in me that would allow me to break free from those bounds. I could live fully independently according to my own wims and desires without consequence if I could only find the power to rise above the moral laws encoded into my soul. This is the idea of surmounting god's kingdom.
I think it relates better in many ways to the fenrir myth to me than the satan myth but I think it's the same thing.
As to whether the spirit is an entity in the same sense that a person is and actually tried to do this and was struck down for it, I can't really speak to it. But I guess that has to come from somewhere?
This is inline with my experiences, despite never having taken DMT yet. My personal combination of research and experience with the esoteric/fringe/paranormal is fairly close to your descriptions regarding archetypes here. I tend to use the terms positive and negative since those are most certainly absolutes, while good and bad are relative AF and can be subjective depending on the person. Whereas, positive and negative does actually exist in nature via magnetism, compasses, etc.
Tell me something; this negative archetypal entity which speaks nonsense; what sorts of BS does it try to instill in your consciousness? Would you say this negative source could also be what "attacks" the subconscious of many unaware folk, expediting self destructive habits, etc.?
Thinking out loud here; PM if uncomfortable going into depth here!
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: Loaded Shaman] 1
#27074620 - 12/06/20 05:35 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Loaded Shaman said: Would you say the devil/satan/lucifer, etc. is just a projected manifestation of the lower/fallen self that's present in all individual consciousness matrixes (human beings lol), Asante?
Thats oversimplifying it, I think.
Every part of the Universe has a consciousness of its own.
That includes virtual creations like Goku and Pikachu 
In fact, given children's tendency to unconditional, unquestioned belief, characters like Ash Ketchum have a presence that rival that of some Gods.
In a dream dreaming itself, the degree and scope of belief in something determines ts level of reality.

"If your Faith is Absolute and Tangible, the Holy Spirit will do tangible things for you."
If you reject Jesus, you can take it from me. God has shown me Miracles of a tangible nature as a reward for my TANGIBLE faith, faith despite all hardship and difficulty he put on my path, and he keeps on showering me with tangible mmiracles till the day I die if I stay on the path.
The Superobserver, the Universe, wo whom I am on the Quantum level, has got my back.
Thank you, Oneness, for allowing me to tune into you and for moreover the honor of you tuning into me 
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: Asante]
#27076356 - 12/06/20 11:52 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asante said:
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Loaded Shaman said: Would you say the devil/satan/lucifer, etc. is just a projected manifestation of the lower/fallen self that's present in all individual consciousness matrixes (human beings lol), Asante?
Thats oversimplifying it, I think.
Every part of the Universe has a consciousness of its own.
That includes virtual creations like Goku and Pikachu 
In fact, given children's tendency to unconditional, unquestioned belief, characters like Ash Ketchum have a presence that rival that of some Gods.
In a dream dreaming itself, the degree and scope of belief in something determines ts level of reality.

"If your Faith is Absolute and Tangible, the Holy Spirit will do tangible things for you."
If you reject Jesus, you can take it from me. God has shown me Miracles of a tangible nature as a reward for my TANGIBLE faith, faith despite all hardship and difficulty he put on my path, and he keeps on showering me with tangible mmiracles till the day I die if I stay on the path.
The Superobserver, the Universe, wo whom I am on the Quantum level, has got my back.
Thank you, Oneness, for allowing me to tune into you and for moreover the honor of you tuning into me 
Gotcha, thank you for taking the time to answer thoroughly, Asante!
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#27078001 - 12/07/20 11:36 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I feel like I canβt remember something.
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Re: Not even the Devil burns in Hell for All Eternity [Re: Amanita86]
#27078060 - 12/08/20 01:07 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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SO what rites does the Devil have in todays world of learning and application and experience..of our young brave(incarnated) souls! The world needs more people to help around..and help those around you..with miracles we can celebrate the circle of life...Social darwin scales measuring different colors of information|!
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