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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26855143 - 07/31/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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So this will be interesting and I will expand to grains only, in the dark and in a jar at some point.  As you can see ive made the bags so that the sub is 2" thick as i have allays had good results with this. 1:1, 1:2, 1:3 spawn to coir.








What size are the bags your using? The ones I'm thinking about using are
24" x 10" x 36" 3 Mil Gusseted Bags but have no filter so I'll have to find a way to input this onto the bag.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Ganja420Boy]
    #26855207 - 07/31/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Its these.  It doesnt have to be sterile as ive just pasteurised the coir.  You can jut fold the bag over and stick it with a little sticky tape loosely.  Im just out of boxes to work with and the wife wont let e ue my sock draw.  If thi works well I can do loads f these really easily and chuck them anywhere.  Its all about not caring about getting fruits.  However, saying that, im sure if after harvest you the respawned it to a shoebox, with the right culture it would fruit.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26855253 - 07/31/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

For bags without a filter could I just put poly fill in the end and tie it up kind of bottle necked shape?


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Ganja420Boy]
    #26855258 - 07/31/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yes but only bother doing that if you are sterilising the substrate.

I spawned in open air, not in front of the flow hood.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26856351 - 07/31/20 10:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Happy to announce my first ATL pins!  Been doing stones for a long while in jars and more recently bags but didn't have a strain that fruited well.  I landed a new print and looks like I finally have one that fruits!  Going to give these guys plenty of water, light, and FAE and see how we go.  Pumped to actually try some fruits!

Prepped rye ala RR's method > sterilized bags > 30ml LC / bag > dropped bags into shoeboxes and trimmed > cased and fruited




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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: 345536345]
    #26856389 - 07/31/20 10:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Congrats!

Mist em, lookin a little dry

Too dry will make em abort pretty easy


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26857122 - 08/01/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes but only bother doing that if you are sterilising the substrate.

I spawned in open air, not in front of the flow hood.



Hey Ed how do you do that three shoebox looking megatub you have down in your sig? Looks super neat, is it just trays in a big 200qt?


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #26857740 - 08/01/20 07:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Happy to announce my first ATL pins!  Been doing stones for along while in jars and bags but didn't have a strain that fruited well.  I landed a print and and
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Congrats!

Mist em, lookin a little dry

Too dry will make em abort pretty easy




Thanks!  Yep - it might be lighting reflecting off the surface weird but I'm checking on them a few times a day and keeping the surface pretty wet.  Been having a whole lot more popping up since last night. 

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: 345536345]
    #26857743 - 08/01/20 07:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

C10 - have you tried dub tubs with these instead of the inverted bag?  Seems to be the same concept in essence.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: 345536345]
    #26857745 - 08/01/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I started w dub tubs, but i got way better results with the bags

It definitely works tho


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #26857872 - 08/01/20 09:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Interesting - I wonder why.  Either way - thanks!

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26857877 - 08/01/20 09:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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So this will be interesting and I will expand to grains only, in the dark and in a jar at some point.  As you can see ive made the bags so that the sub is 2" thick as i have allays had good results with this. 1:1, 1:2, 1:3 spawn to coir.









Your bags will dry out underneath the filter and they will contaminate right underneath the filter when I do my bags and leave them for a very long time.... seven months or so I fold the bag completely over so it is resting on top of the filter
The only reason I can see a need for the filter on the bag is during the pressure cookIng

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: 99.99]
    #26858144 - 08/02/20 03:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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So this will be interesting and I will expand to grains only, in the dark and in a jar at some point.  As you can see ive made the bags so that the sub is 2" thick as i have allays had good results with this. 1:1, 1:2, 1:3 spawn to coir.









Your bags will dry out underneath the filter and they will contaminate right underneath the filter when I do my bags and leave them for a very long time.... seven months or so I fold the bag completely over so it is resting on top of the filter
The only reason I can see a need for the filter on the bag is during the pressure cookIng





In this experiment I'm using pasteurise substrate and hoping that will keep the mould away

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Edmunter] * 1
    #26858214 - 08/02/20 06:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

First jar of Jalisco about to get spawned. It’s a little sketchy so I hope it works.



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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26858411 - 08/02/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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First jar of Jalisco about to get spawned. It’s a little sketchy so I hope it works.






I'm feeling anticipation about it. Curiosity peaked.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Nichrome]
    #26858869 - 08/02/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

What's the average time to start seeing stone growth? Out of 6 jars I've only spotted 1 stone at 30% colonization, all jars have been shook and all 100% and most have been this way for several days.

The reason I'm wondering is because I plan on shooting in sterile water to suvk back out and inject on more grains and make a LC with the mycelium water. I would hate to get a non/low stone mycelium with my method.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Ganja420Boy]
    #26858873 - 08/02/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I’ve made 8 jars now and never seen stones form at all by the time they were ready to spawn.

From what I’d read before starting I was expecting to have quite a few but I guess it’s random.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26859441 - 08/02/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

My 3 fruits are aborting :frown: I'm about to say fuck it and just harvest the stones and have a good time with my friend with them :/


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26859475 - 08/02/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

My atl7 aborted really easy too. I haven’t run them again since but the tamps I kept soaked and they did well. Like I would spray them down for five seconds straight three times a day it’s crazy.

I’m about to case my first clone and put it in the pan chamber and see how it goes.


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