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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead] * 1
    #26853331 - 07/30/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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HamHead said:If you are drowning and a piece of driftwood floats by, are you going to wait for it to be peer reviewed and drown or take a chance and grab on?




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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: Asante]
    #26853340 - 07/30/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)



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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: yeah]
    #26853342 - 07/30/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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yeah said:
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HamHead said:If you are drowning and a piece of driftwood floats by, are you going to wait for it to be peer reviewed and drown or take a chance and grab on?




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it's unfortunate so many libtards aren't wired to grasp this


I think it’s more of a matter of partisan politics letting people die to smear the acting commander and chief.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
    #26853357 - 07/30/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Japan using a different zinc ionophore, hinokitiol.

https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/the-japanese-alternative-to-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-hinokitiol-2020-06-09






https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinokitiol




https://www.drzinx.com/



:mindblown:





I'm on Zinc and an ionophor (Quercetin) as we speak, I buy into the theory that Zinc + an ionophor to get it into the cells will improve the prognosis of a COVID infection. It makes a lot of sense, and hinokitiol as a cherlator certainly seems a readily available one.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: yeah]
    #26853362 - 07/30/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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yeah said:
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HamHead said:If you are drowning and a piece of driftwood floats by, are you going to wait for it to be peer reviewed and drown or take a chance and grab on?




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It's more like drowning and grabbing onto an anchor, then encouraging others to do the same.

When something has zero benefit, all that remains is risk, which all medications have.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26853364 - 07/30/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Now it’s not enough zinc


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #26853366 - 07/30/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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lowbrow said:
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yeah said:
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HamHead said:If you are drowning and a piece of driftwood floats by, are you going to wait for it to be peer reviewed and drown or take a chance and grab on?




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it's unfortunate so many libtards aren't wired to grasp this


I think it’s more of a matter of partisan politics letting people die to smear the acting commander and chief.




Herman Cain would agree with this message if he was still alive. Killed by not enough zinc


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (07/30/20 11:25 AM)

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods] * 2
    #26853372 - 07/30/20 11:29 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

In the words of our wise OP. “Where’s the spike in deaths?”



1500 people died yesterday from not enough zinc


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (07/30/20 11:32 AM)

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods] * 2
    #26853407 - 07/30/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe this is the reaon hydroxychloroquine is back in the news:



They are probably trying to get rid of it since they are stuck with so much.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: One of Us]
    #26853413 - 07/30/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

They can gift it to countries with endemic malaria :cookiemonster:


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: One of Us] * 1
    #26853414 - 07/30/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe this is the reaon hydroxychloroquine is back in the news:



They are probably trying to get rid of it since they are stuck with so much.



Ding ding ding.

All about profits from the beginning, this hydroxychloroquine shit. Sometimes this world makes me feel sick. I probably would have killed myself by now if it wasn't so damn interesting.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26853419 - 07/30/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

My states gov is one of trumps most loyal booklickers, so we were lucky enough to get lots of hydroxychloroquine very early... we still have more doses than than our state's population. About 50% more


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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: Nonagon Infinity] * 1
    #26853442 - 07/30/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe this is the reaon hydroxychloroquine is back in the news:



They are probably trying to get rid of it since they are stuck with so much.



Ding ding ding.

All about profits from the beginning, this hydroxychloroquine shit. Sometimes this world makes me feel sick. I probably would have killed myself by now if it wasn't so damn interesting.



The benefit of using HCQ, if it worked, would be that it would keep costs low, not boost profits. Remdesivir is a lot more expensive. Most of these patients are on Medicare, so the government would love it if HCQ actually worked because it would save them a ton of money

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Re: [Re: lowbrow]
    #26853593 - 07/30/20 01:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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HamHead said:If you are drowning and a piece of driftwood floats by, are you going to wait for it to be peer reviewed and drown or take a chance and grab on?




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it's unfortunate so many libtards aren't wired to grasp this


I think it’s more of a matter of partisan politics letting people die to smear the acting commander and chief.




The politics of trump and his precious re-election are a massive part of why we have 150k+ deaths and are trending in a horrible direction while almost every other developed nation on the planet has a handle on things. The states where the governors listened to trump are the ones now transporting bodies to the morgue by the refrigerated truck full, after having had 5+ months to prepare. There are republican governors who acted swiftly and got control of things, ignoring trumps calls to reopen quickly, pack the churches, hold rallies, send kids back to school etc. It's not a partisan thing, it's a stupidty vs common sense thing.

The researchers doing these trials and doctors experimenting in their treatments dont care about trump, only someone obsessed with trump and out of touch with reality would think politics is even crossing their minds right now. They want themselves and their coworkers to be able to save lives. They want themselves, their famies, friends etc to be treated with the optimal treatment regimen if they get sick.

A small number of non-trumpy doctors still are experimenting with prophylactic hcq as it's much more difficult to ascertain whether or not it helps as a preventative, but as a treatment for the already sick hcq has been tossed in most places because it just doesn't work as well as other treatments and in the necessary doses it can be very dangerous. And yes, many of these hospitals were also treating patients with zinc, it was included in the initial evms covid protocol that was circulated widely throughout the medical community back in the early days when everyone was scrambling for info on how to treat. There's no magic bullet for a virus that manifests in so many different ways, other than immunity or keeping it out of your body in the first place.

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Re: [Re: feevers] * 1
    #26853621 - 07/30/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The states with the most dead bodies are the ones that are democrat run.  I’d assume they’re the ones that didn’t listen.


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Re: [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #26853629 - 07/30/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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The states with the most dead bodies are the ones that are democrat run.  I’d assume they’re the ones that didn’t listen.



I don't think anyone on this forum is surprised that you would make that assumption...


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Re: [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26853637 - 07/30/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Why wouldn’t I assume that?


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Re: [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #26853638 - 07/30/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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The states with the most dead bodies are the ones that are democrat run.  I’d assume they’re the ones that didn’t listen.




I'm sure it has nothing to do with them being the first hit (when practically nothing was known about the virus or how to treat it), having 5 less months to prepare, having higher population densities, mass shortages of PPE in hospitals and nursing homes often directly due to trump administration interference.

The trumpy governors had virtually everything going for them, and they went out of their way to fuck it up as royally as possible.

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Re: [Re: feevers]
    #26853645 - 07/30/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:whathesaid::haha:

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Re: [Re: feevers]
    #26853657 - 07/30/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)



Also, citizens of the world: do not travel to the United States



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