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endtimes
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: Srirachi]
#26852617 - 07/29/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't think I'd be very comfortable with someone having their arm that far inside me.
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: endtimes]
#26852620 - 07/29/20 08:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Better my arm than my penis...
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: endtimes]
#26852668 - 07/29/20 09:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It is possible to defend oneself without intentional or excessive force. It's by learning how to defend yourself that you grant yourself the freedom of restraint. But I'm talking about jiu jitsu, wrestling ect. Ever watched an MMA match and thought, "Nothing is happening." Those are the skills you're looking for.
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: endtimes]
#26852676 - 07/29/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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endtimes said: I don't think I'd be very comfortable with someone having their arm that far inside me.
You've been reported.
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endtimes
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larry.fisherman said: It is possible to defend oneself without intentional or excessive force. It's by learning how to defend yourself that you grant yourself the freedom of restraint. But I'm talking about jiu jitsu, wrestling ect. Ever watched an MMA match and thought, "Nothing is happening." Those are the skills you're looking for.
I mostly just pray I don't get put into a situation where I'll have to test it. My love of animals may get me killed in the wild but I'm hoping to talk down another person.
I used to be for violence. Then I held a knife, then a gun, and then fired a gun. Now I'm given pause when choosing violence knowing what such things can do and what they feel like. A gun is heavy in my hands and that force, I just can't imagine doing that to someone else.
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: endtimes]
#26852827 - 07/29/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you have to defend yourself akido and hapkido are great, especially for smaller people as they don't rely on mass or strength. That being said, there is a huge difference between put on the ground, and in Akido's place being thrown at the ground. It hurts, a lot.
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: endtimes]
#26852895 - 07/30/20 01:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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In my heart of hearts I've always never like the psychopath type that target you if ypur not belonging to a friend group. I know some that would want me to get dead, but my reaction would probably be...
If self defense doesn't work to put them in their place, just run if they got a weapon, or just kind of relaxingly fight back. If someone takes this body, it is what it is. I hope some people (younger people as in my generation) can change and make something better from the cards they were dealt. But thats all I can do is wish for that,
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: pur3bind]
#26852997 - 07/30/20 05:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know it’s wishful to hope that I’ll talk someone down, but there are people out there that you can’t. People who for whatever reason want to hurt you just for existing even though you aren’t hurting anyone. I’m lucky to never encounter such people.
But I do like living though, I’m not giving that up just because someone doesn’t like something about me. I still wonder what I would do if the time came for action.
Edited by endtimes (07/30/20 05:59 AM)
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: endtimes]
#26853007 - 07/30/20 06:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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endtimes said: I don’t think I’ll be able to. Not because I physically can’t but because I would rather die than have to seriously injure or even kill another just to keep living. I might survive the encounter but the guilt would be a weight I would carry with me.
I'll deal with the guilt after I stomp him into the cracks of the pavement.
I have struggled too hard throughout my life to let some asshole take it away.
I'm 375 lbs, I'm not going to run away.
Here's 13 martial arts "Masters" getting destroyed by fighters taking them up on their bluff.
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: endtimes]
#26853025 - 07/30/20 06:40 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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There was a guy here called WakeboarderB who killed a guy in self defense and was pretty messed up about it. I wonder if he may have ended up committing suicide, since he mentioned it in some of his last posts here. Hopefully not.
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: psi]
#26853033 - 07/30/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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psi said: There was a guy here called WakeboarderB who killed a guy in self defense
Oh wow he did?
Most people are toast if they kill someone or someone gets killed in close proximity.
Still, I'd prefer the one getting killed to be my attacker, not me.
Law of the jungle, dont provoke 375lbs gorilla.
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: endtimes]
#26853037 - 07/30/20 06:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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With grappling and jiu jitsu you can control a situation without "hurting" someone.
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: Asante]
#26853042 - 07/30/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: Asante]
#26853045 - 07/30/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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endtimes said: I don’t think I’ll be able to. Not because I physically can’t but because I would rather die than have to seriously injure or even kill another just to keep living. I might survive the encounter but the guilt would be a weight I would carry with me.
I'll deal with the guilt after I stomp him into the cracks of the pavement.
I have struggled too hard throughout my life to let some asshole take it away.
I'm 375 lbs, I'm not going to run away.
Here's 13 martial arts "Masters" getting destroyed by fighters taking them up on their bluff.
Like the televangelists of the fighting world.
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: Asante]
#26853059 - 07/30/20 07:05 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wish televagelists would be pitted against Muay Thai and MMA champions
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: Asante]
#26853066 - 07/30/20 07:09 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Check out "Glory Sports Ministry" in Brazil. They teach MMA as an outreach program.
Translation: Some preachers can whip your ass
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: Srirachi]
#26853075 - 07/30/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Srirachi said: Check out "Glory Sports Ministry" in Brazil. They teach MMA as an outreach program.
Translation: Some preachers can whip your ass
Especially when wading kneedeep in bullshit, eh.
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: Asante]
#26853199 - 07/30/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: I wish televagelists would be pitted against Muay Thai and MMA champions
Most of those masters are pomp and circumstance, even Bruce lee saw they were not good in a real fight.
That said I’m afraid I don’t share your sentiment about my attacker
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Re: When it comes to defending yourself [Re: endtimes] 1
#26853349 - 07/30/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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That said I’m afraid I don’t share your sentiment about my attacker
I have been victimized a whole lot in my life, and I mean a WHOLE LOT, and I always let them do that to me, nonviolently, peacefully, and they took that as an invitation to use me as a doormat.
If someone is intoxicated and throws the odd punch at me, I'll probably shove them on their ass and walk away, not even pressing charges.
But if someone is deliberately out to harm me physically or gratuitously attacks the defenseless around me, hell yes i'll fight and for the purpose of physical incapacitation.
I'm not a track athlete, but I dont have to make a run for it if my opponent can no longer walk.
I'm a good guy who helps a lot of people left and right throughout life. That is worth fighting for and if absolutely necessary, worth killing for.
I'll write my book in prison if that's what it takes.
I love the nonviolence principle, but in some cases, it doesn't apply.
I'm in full favor of you freedom not to defend yourself and I hope you'll excuse me if I break a bar stool over their head in defense of you
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larry.fisherman said: It is possible to defend oneself without intentional or excessive force.
No doubt, man. When I was a social worker, I had to learn how to restrain a 300 pound man without doing any long-lasting damage, and I only weigh about 130. I believe there is almost always a non-lethal (dare I even say non-violent) solution to any given problem.
Besides, when it comes to owning a gun, a knife, or any kind of lethal weapon, I don't know how much safer that's actually going to make me anyway. I could always find myself up against a better marksman, or a guy who brought a gun to a knife fight, or a guy who attacks with a group, or a guy who has the element of surprise. Sure, a gun might save my life in some situations, but for every situation I can imagine where a gun saves my life, I can imagine another one where it doesn't. In the end, I'd rather just not own one because it seems like a lot of additional responsibility that I don't need to shoulder. This is life, man. It's a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% fatality rate. Ain't nobody getting outta this shit alive.
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