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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26851759 - 07/29/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol good.A good hug, hiss, and good 'ol fucking.
I hate it when my daddys fight.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Azure Essence]
#26852086 - 07/29/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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And I never ever claimed to be. You're the one acting like an expert when you can barely speak english and you act like your opinion has more weight than David Nichols on the subject. All I did was quote him, you were the one saying he was wrong.
You're kind of derailing this thread here, stop following me around with this anger.
i was never angry at all. i'm not fighting or anything, just discussing here. that's what forums are here for and sometimes threads lose their thread and the OPs question was more or less answered so that's no tragedy either ..
the david nichols quote doesn't have anything to do with my experience. i'm neither doubting it, nor does it answer my question. people are even talking about lsd crystals taking up energies of their creator or even their distributors. i'm not saying that shit is true but then again it might be? maybe you don't believe in that because it doesn't fit with western mainstream science? all i can say is that i really don't know anything for sure and would be surprised if you do, given the limitedness of all our minds in this infinite universe ..
and sorry if my english isn't perfect, it's not my native language...
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26852117 - 07/29/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Azure Essence said: That's a starling amount of LSD that no one really needs to take. I feel our viewpoints are fundamentally different, however, and we won't really reach a conclusion here.
I was probably being harsh, but that seems like stupid behaviour to me. I agree about people drinking too much, and I myself quit drinking years ago.
Well.. just FYI, i did it so much to prove that it isn't harmful. Before i ever touched it i read everything i could about the dangers and found that there are pretty much none.
I also have a friend i talk to daily that knows how much i do and watches for any issues in the way i act or my brain works.. So.. i'm at like 143 trips in the last 2.5 years or so (i missed maybe 4 due to having other shit to do) And no bad effects
That being said, everyone is different I would still rather do 140+ trips on lsd than get drunk once... fuck that poison.
Have a great day!
awesome! i also quit drinking completely in october 2017. alcohol and nicotine are in the same category as benzos, meth and crack for me.
one of my best friends takes acid 1-2x a week since 15 years, with a 3 year break inbetween. so all in all it's been 12 years of more than weekly dosing. he's fine but also very mentally stable to begin with. he said he does kinda crave it psychologically but prefers it to alcohol too, so... 🌈
that friend once took 3 100ug 1p-lsd blotters while we were walking the woods and he didn't get anywhere near where one 140ug lsd blotter that he had at that time would take him... he didn't expect this, before the intake he also believed that 1p- amounts to the same experience as -25. but his experience changed his opinion
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: epilectric]
#26852336 - 07/29/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have done both back to back and can't tell a different.. the problem is, the lab that's making the current 1p under-doses a little bit..not a lot but a bit..
I wish SI was still making 1p.. their shit was awesome but it is what it is..
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26852533 - 07/29/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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icetech said: I have done both back to back and can't tell a different.. the problem is, the lab that's making the current 1p under-doses a little bit..not a lot but a bit..
I wish SI was still making 1p.. their shit was awesome but it is what it is..
yes, that and the extra 1-propionyl group causes a later onset which might also reduce the subjective effects to a degree in certain individuals..
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26852597 - 07/29/20 08:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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icetech said: I have done both back to back and can't tell a different.. the problem is, the lab that's making the current 1p under-doses a little bit..not a lot but a bit..
I wish SI was still making 1p.. their shit was awesome but it is what it is..
1P and LSD are identical in expected effect to me as well.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Azure Essence]
#26852999 - 07/30/20 05:58 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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icetech said: I have done both back to back and can't tell a different.. the problem is, the lab that's making the current 1p under-doses a little bit..not a lot but a bit..
I wish SI was still making 1p.. their shit was awesome but it is what it is..
1P and LSD are identical in expected effect to me as well.
Thats cause once it's in the body it turns into straight LSD.. people saying it isn't the same are just wanting that to be true. The onset is a little longer is all.. same reason it takes longer to pass an ehrlich test.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26853268 - 07/30/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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icetech said:
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Azure Essence said:
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icetech said: I have done both back to back and can't tell a different.. the problem is, the lab that's making the current 1p under-doses a little bit..not a lot but a bit..
I wish SI was still making 1p.. their shit was awesome but it is what it is..
1P and LSD are identical in expected effect to me as well.
Thats cause once it's in the body it turns into straight LSD.. people saying it isn't the same are just wanting that to be true. The onset is a little longer is all.. same reason it takes longer to pass an ehrlich test.
Yeah exactly. Onset is delayed only slightly, but then it's full on true LSD. Makes me think when people claim they're different that they don't have much experience to realize the variability of effects from LSD
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Azure Essence]
#26853272 - 07/30/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah exactly. Onset is delayed only slightly, but then it's full on true LSD. Makes me think when people claim they're different that they don't have much experience to realize the variability of effects from LSD
I tend to see it as you said.. some people don't have much experience.. OR they go into it expecting it to be different so they don't enjoy it or let it flow like it should..
BUT... that being said.. let them say what they want.. i will just enjoy
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26853971 - 07/30/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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i never tried 1p but that's because i prefer liquid to blotter. it's easier to dose and comes on quicker, i like to start low and redose later, with blotters that can get tedious..
but yea, it must be pretty much the same thing. given that i still believe in different batches having slightly different characteristics, it really doesn't matter if it's 1p- or some -25 batch.
imho, set and setting make for about 90% of difference in trips. and the other 10% are batch related... don't even have to be impurities, just differences in the synthesis. idk, it's just my experience, i'm not claiming anything more than that
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: epilectric]
#26854028 - 07/30/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds like you might be at least hinting towards more.
I haven't been a part of this multi-thread brawl but this is still a crazy notion to me.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26854033 - 07/30/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are you guys discussing the vibes of people during and after synthesis?
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26854057 - 07/30/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: epilectric]
#26854089 - 07/30/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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When I take mushrooms I usually need to be inside until after I peak, as the body load gets rough and I need to lie down for an hour or two at the start.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26854122 - 07/30/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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LosTresOjos said: Sounds like you might be at least hinting towards more.
I haven't been a part of this multi-thread brawl but this is still a crazy notion to me.
LOL
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Nimpo]
#26854123 - 07/30/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nimpo said: When I take mushrooms I usually need to be inside until after I peak, as the body load gets rough and I need to lie down for an hour or two at the start.
The ramp up to peak can often be very chaotic, but then I kind of blast through it and feel great
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