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Dry cake process
    #26851822 - 07/29/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I had a couple of cakes that were too wet. I had them under air flow and they are heading towards almost completely dry. At this point, do I dry them bone dry start over with a resoak and roll? Or do I leave a little moisture and dunk and roll? I got one flush from each cake.

This is what the disaster looked like. They have been dried since then.


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Re: Dry cake process [Re: Yumyumyumyum]
    #26852890 - 07/30/20 01:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I don't do no cakes unless I'm baking it in the oven but lemme tell you something.  Patience is key in mycology.  It's best to dial everything in so nothing gets too wet or too dry.  Some are saying misting is easier than dunking in the long run.


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Re: Dry cake process [Re: Yumyumyumyum]
    #26852924 - 07/30/20 02:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

1. i do not know if there is such thing "too wet cake".

2. dunk all cakes for 6 hours. except for yellow one dunk that separately.looks bacterial.

3. put all cakes near each other that helps the micro climate and cakes love that.

4. cut down the foil to size of cake. you do not need that much foil.

5. dunk and roll in verm once only. when you birth the cakes. after that only dunk no rolling between ever flush its dunk only. 30 hours at birth for that size of cakes and 24 hours between flushes.

6. give them time to heal at this point keep expectations low.

7. never dry out cakes if they have too much water, do not mist them if there is a such thing call "too much water".

8. they will take there sweet time to heal and pin again.


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Re: Dry cake process [Re: pesa]
    #26852947 - 07/30/20 04:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I had dry cakes. Get some drinking straws. Find a drill bit that is the same size. Drill half way into the cake. Insert straw. Cut it to where it is about 2 inches out of the cake. Take a dropper fill the straw.

I filled the straw twice a day for about 3 days. By day 4 they were fruiting. Boom done.


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Re: Dry cake process [Re: Canebrake]
    #26854043 - 07/30/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I completely dried them and isolated the cake with bacteria. I did do smaller foil before but it was getting messy in the tub and sometimes it would collect water. I agree on the roll twice. That is where the problems started. Everything was going pretty well for the last 6 months a few problems here and there as to be expected but my last batches have been getting wrecked and I am using cleaner techniques and gypsum. I think the heat is playing an issue because I was using warm water heating bins so the humidity was messing with the jars. Now its warm enough they are being stored at an ambient temperature in a dark place. 5 other cakes look like the one that got isolated. I did not see this problem until I started adding gypsum. I am wondering if my 4/2/2 and a spoon of gypsum is off? I know about the time thing. After doing this half a year it seems to come in bunches then a jar drought. I do sets of 6-8 with at least 2 types of culture. I am wondering if my culture is toast also. It all came from one syringe a long time ago. I disagree with the too wet. I had the cakes get dark and a bit slick. Do any of you know about curing bacteria or is it a toss it start over thing? I am going to go 24h on the 5 soaking. The good part is I have two new FC's (Perlite has been a pain to find locally). Thanks for the input!


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Re: Dry cake process [Re: Yumyumyumyum]
    #26854720 - 07/31/20 12:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

1. smaller foil should not get messy. a small amount of verm should fell off. it depends on how you mist. if you are misting like making gentle rain very small particles of water landing on cake that will do and three to four times a day. re rolling cakes causes issues like bacteria and green monster. if cakes are too wet do not mist them let them enjoy the water they have. i purposely make sure my cakes are extra wet.

2. verm that fells on perlite does not harm thats why we clean our tubs and boil or bake the perlite for one hour to reuse it. RR is being using same perlite for years and never got in to problems.

3. 4/2/2 verm/brf/water is fine. just lay off the gypsum. you do not need that and if you still get ocd of PH levels buy verm that has neutral ph level of 7. use filter water or boil water let it cool down use that for brf mix. the entire point of having gypsum in the mix is for adjusting ph and pf-tek is proven no ph adjustment require.

4.what i think your problem began with temperatures, beyond 80.6f or 27c sleeping contams and bacteria wakes up you can nuke your cakes but there are bacteria that sleeps and wake up at higher temperatures. always remain below 80f or 27c and higher than 70f or 21c in between is optimal temperature.

5. if you have agar. you can test your culture. if not you can always make small test cakes to check if your culture is toast.

6. if you can not find perlite look for coco coir and make humidity chamber.

humidity chamber tek
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25339094/fpart/1/vc/1


RR Notes. check temperature experiments and optimal is below 80f or 27c

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8468474#8468474


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