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OfflineRhizoRyan
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Rye bag condensation after "shake"
    #26618208 - 04/21/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hello everyone sorry if this has been posted before I tried searching and couldn't find a direct answer from this specific reason.
This is my first run with bags. I inoculated a 3lb rye bag with GT using agar. No condensation issues until I "massaged" the grains at 40% to speed up growth. The next day I noticed a lot of condensation in the bag. Is this okay? If not what could have caused it? Thanks.


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Re: Rye bag condensation after "shake" [Re: RhizoRyan]
    #26618240 - 04/21/20 04:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Condensation is just a sign of temperature difference. Center is warmer than the outsides, making water condense on the walls. It could be either from myc or from bacteria.


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Re: Rye bag condensation after "shake" [Re: RhizoRyan]
    #26851684 - 07/29/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm having the exact same problem, also a rye/vermiculite grain spawn bag of 2.5 kg, with a small air filter. Hardly any growth after the shake (which I did for redistribution at ~ 30-40%), now it's constantly very wet inside, and I didn't have varying temperatures. And yet no signs of contamination either.



The other bag (shaken a couple of days earlier) looks and grows fine, and hardly condensated water...


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Re: Rye bag condensation after "shake" [Re: Schlumpf]
    #26851732 - 07/29/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

@OP:It`s fine if you have condensation at this stage.
If you had some moisture from the start,
the grains were probably loaded too wet outside.
Mycelium produces lots of heat, so quite usual.
But as stated by Mr. poisoned, could always be something else.
Bags aren`t easy game for beginners as you have to be very, very patient.


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Re: Rye bag condensation after "shake" [Re: Goatrider]
    #26851782 - 07/29/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Not recovering is itself a sign of contamination. It should recover in a day or so and make visible progress or you know something is up. I’ve had some that took a couple days to start to recover, slightly bacterial but still good enough to spawn. That bag looks unpleasant though and if it’s been more than 4-5 days I’d say it’s definitely grossed out.


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Re: Rye bag condensation after "shake" [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26851798 - 07/29/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

its prolly due to knocking it up with a nasty ass bacteria ridden spore syringe.

use agar👍👍

not yours op


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Re: Rye bag condensation after "shake" [Re: jcm4620]
    #26851853 - 07/29/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

This is my first grow attempt, so this (inoculating a bag with a spore syringe) was a daunting enough endeavour already. I had read long enough to actually not order a growkit, you know. However, foreseeing this, I had ordered two bags. There is so much and often conflicting information that it's hard to set up a clear path for oneself. I also have Paul Stamet's Cultivating Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms, although despite being a large book can only serve as a reference for good practice imo.

Btw, I've been meaning to introduce myself somewhere, but I haven't seen introductions being made in the The Pub, although it says it is the place.


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Re: Rye bag condensation after "shake" [Re: Schlumpf]
    #26851863 - 07/29/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Books about cultivating gourmet and medicinal mushrooms
are more precious than questionable magic mushrooms books,
or other internet sources.
Always outdated and with lots of misinformation.


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Re: Rye bag condensation after "shake" [Re: Goatrider]
    #26859091 - 08/02/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I know for a fact though that this first bag took very long for the inoculation to spawn. Then it came along quite nicely, although around only one spot (I likely hadn't shaken the bag enough after inoculation) and only much later I got the aforementioned wet look. The spawn is still growing (quite slowly), however there are single grains that stay completely dark almost as if they were protected by a biofilm or something. I will post an update when I open the bag.


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