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LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York * 1
    #26851474 - 07/29/20 11:54 AM (14 days, 5 hours ago)

LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York

The packages were inscribed with the derisive message, “Take a trip beyond the pigpen.”
By Sam RichesJuly 29, 2020

https://www.thegrowthop.com/cannabis-news/lsd-packages-show-up-at-police-stations-across-st-lawrence-county-in-new-york

An enterprising soul in New York has taken a creative approach to induce police reform.

Four separate incidents in St. Lawrence County are currently under investigation after packages containing LSD were discovered attached to the front door of police offices across the county, reports NNY360.

The packages were inscribed with the derisive message, “Take a trip beyond the pigpen.”

Over the course of a few hours this past Sunday morning, the packages were discovered at police offices in Potsdam, Norfolk, Norwood and the public safety building in St. Lawrence County. A field test confirmed they all contained LSD.

“These cowardly acts towards all law enforcement are not going to be tolerated and whomever this individual or individuals are, should be assured that we will be doing everything within our power to seek you out and hold you accountable to the fullest extent of the law,” Undersheriff Sean O’Brien said in a statement.

“The targeted attacks on our St. Lawrence County law enforcement are inexcusable and must be prosecuted,” Congresswoman Elise Stefanik added in a statement. “This is particularly painful to our North Country community after the positive, grassroots Back the Blue parade in Waddington yesterday highlighted the strong community support for our law enforcement. New York’s 21st district stands with law enforcement and their families.”

The agencies are working together to investigate the incidents.

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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: rider420] * 1
    #26851515 - 07/29/20 12:27 PM (14 days, 4 hours ago)

Geez, what a fucking waste of acid. They should have just spiked their coffee or something. :facepalm:


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: rider420]
    #26851516 - 07/29/20 12:27 PM (14 days, 4 hours ago)

"Cowardly acts", "painful" and "targeted attacks".

Looks like these cops will need another parade to help them get over the trauma.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: rider420] * 1
    #26851531 - 07/29/20 12:35 PM (14 days, 4 hours ago)

The outrage at receiving drugs in the mail is amazing. Simply receiving a package doesn't force anyone to use what's in it.

If someone jokingly sent boxes of doughnuts with the same message, I doubt it would have elicited the same reaction. And the doughnuts are worse for your health.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: the strander]
    #26851563 - 07/29/20 01:00 PM (14 days, 4 hours ago)

If that response is to me, I don't think you're understanding my point lol. I mean they should have shred their psyches with it. I think it'd be much more worthwhile to hear about cops being put into mental wards because they couldn't handle their shit. Anyways, hope they didn't waste too much material on something that is literally going to just be thrown in the garbage.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
    #26851591 - 07/29/20 01:11 PM (14 days, 3 hours ago)

Wow that’s...wasteful but funny/ballsy

This is actually a good thing for the cops, but they’re still gonna def find this guy

Just a bunch of free tabs.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
    #26851617 - 07/29/20 01:25 PM (14 days, 3 hours ago)

Sorry DontFear, wasn't directed at your post. Was directed at the language in the article the police used to describe the act or sending the packages as an "attack" etc.

Wish people would show their animosity toward me by sending me psychedelics in the mail.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: the strander]
    #26851632 - 07/29/20 01:35 PM (14 days, 3 hours ago)

Ohh, that makes sense lol. Yeah go figure they would interpret an opportunity for them to abandon their closed-mindedness as a threat  :smilingpuppy:

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Wish people would show their animosity toward me by sending be psychedelics in the mail.




Rofl and the world would be a much better place if that was all we had to worry about :lol:


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
    #26851803 - 07/29/20 03:04 PM (14 days, 2 hours ago)

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Geez, what a fucking waste of acid. They should have just spiked their coffee or something. :facepalm:





That's what I was thinking as well when I first heard about this a few days ago.

Seems like a huge waste and a very poorly thought out method to dose someone. How did the person who did this expect it to work?


This is what the packets looked like>>>>>






I don't even know where to begin....

How did the person expect someone to be dosed by such a thing? Did they put raw crystal inside the packet? Is raw crystal on the outside of the packet? Did they expect someone to be so ignorant and curious about the packets that they figured a cop would open up that packet and the raw crystal would become airborne and/or on their hands & fingers and that's how they'd get dosed?

Why did they put that "Take a trip beyond the pigpen" on the packets? Seeing that on such a thing just makes it even more suspicious and makes me think there are drugs in it and makes me think someone is trying to poison/dose another. Did they really think a cop is going to open up a mysterious packet that's been taped to the door of the police station that's been labeled "Take a trip beyond the pigpen"?

Or did the person put tabs of LSD in the packets?...did the person think a cop would just randomly eat a tab of LSD because they've always wanted to but never crossed paths with it?

I really wish I knew WTF the person was thinking who did this and how they thought it would play out and actually work...it's an incredibly ignorant attempt at trying to dose some cops.

It'd be much more low-key and much more likely that someone would get dosed by wiping/spraying a solution of crystal on a door handle of a building or car...there are soooo many other ways it could have been done and likely been successful with out leaving much of any physical trace/evidence behind.



Not that I condone dosing people :smirk: .





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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: openmind]
    #26851856 - 07/29/20 03:30 PM (14 days, 1 hour ago)

They wouldn't have known it was LSD exactly if it hadn't been opened and tested.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: openmind] * 2
    #26851908 - 07/29/20 04:00 PM (14 days, 1 hour ago)

It's a form of protest, performance art even, it was supposed to be discovered and reported on. And the police overreaction won't win them much sympathy, it just makes them look stupid and draws more attention to how ridiculous the war on drugs is.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: DontFearThePeepr] * 4
    #26851983 - 07/29/20 04:25 PM (14 days, 43 minutes ago)

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They should have just spiked their coffee or something. :facepalm:



Dosing people without their knowledge is wrong and dangerous, and it can set the movement back significantly. Even this stunt is going to attract undesirable attention. None of this helps the psychedelic movement.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: nooneman]
    #26852070 - 07/29/20 04:59 PM (14 days, 9 minutes ago)

It doesn't seem as though the intent was really for anyone to dose. It's just a protest.

And the pigs come running out the pen all huffy and puffy.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: LosTresOjos] * 1
    #26854189 - 07/30/20 08:43 PM (12 days, 20 hours ago)

What a counterproductive use of acid. With the surge in public and research interest over the past few years, one would hope that we could maintain momentum and credibility. I really fear the kind of loss in credibility that we could see if people are given reason to associate acid with dangerous and chaotic people - I certainly don't buy into the moral panic about resisting the police force or drug prohibition but this just serves no purpose. Anyway, fuck the police and fuck idiocy like this.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: GH19971]
    #26854816 - 07/31/20 04:57 AM (12 days, 12 hours ago)

Dosing people thru mail would be a lot more evil, this is more of a tease. It’s telling the cops to voluntarily “see beyond the pigpen”. I’m not sure how much acid was actually sent to them. I’d imagine it wouldn’t be that much (that’d be a really dangerous thing to do, I’d imagine it being a 10strip maybe) All I see is a package.

Could easily also be 1p or whatever who knows. I ASSUME they’d have tested it for fent and found lysergamides


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: nooneman]
    #26855592 - 07/31/20 03:58 PM (12 days, 1 hour ago)

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They should have just spiked their coffee or something. :facepalm:



Dosing people without their knowledge is wrong and dangerous, and it can set the movement back significantly. Even this stunt is going to attract undesirable attention. None of this helps the psychedelic movement.



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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: sk8fast]
    #26855655 - 07/31/20 04:50 PM (12 days, 18 minutes ago)

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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: nooneman]
    #26855760 - 07/31/20 06:03 PM (11 days, 23 hours ago)

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They should have just spiked their coffee or something. :facepalm:



Dosing people without their knowledge is wrong and dangerous, and it can set the movement back significantly. Even this stunt is going to attract undesirable attention. None of this helps the psychedelic movement.




Agreed. It seems funny on the surface but stuff like this doesn't help the movement at all. Only hurts it. Not to mention a waste of LSD (if it in fact is genuine LSD).


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: Niffla]
    #26856259 - 07/31/20 11:03 PM (11 days, 18 hours ago)

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“The targeted attacks on our St. Lawrence County law enforcement are inexcusable and must be prosecuted,




Shit, I wish I were getting "attacked"


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    #26856768 - 08/01/20 09:24 AM (11 days, 7 hours ago)

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Agreed. It seems funny on the surface but stuff like this doesn't help the movement at all. Only hurts it. Not to mention a waste of LSD (if it in fact is genuine LSD).




What do you do with contaminated LSD give it to the cops.

WTF is "the movement" are you trying to take a shit? Freedom is about how just a society is! The holocausts was not the Jews fault even if the Nazis clamed it was, anymore then the drug war is the fault of drug users! Get your facts straight. :assimilate:

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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: Holybullshit]
    #26856843 - 08/01/20 10:32 AM (11 days, 6 hours ago)

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It's a form of protest, performance art even, it was supposed to be discovered and reported on. And the police overreaction won't win them much sympathy, it just makes them look stupid and draws more attention to how ridiculous the war on drugs is.



Yep. Dude who sent it knew they would never be took.
Pretty obvious the point of it.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26856898 - 08/01/20 11:13 AM (11 days, 5 hours ago)

Kind of cracks me up that anyone would think... ohhh random stuff in the mail!! I better put it in my mouth!!

Of course... if it were me i would have tested it and then been grateful :smile:


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: icetech]
    #26857733 - 08/01/20 09:38 PM (10 days, 19 hours ago)

What exactly does the DA plan on charging this person with?


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #26858189 - 08/02/20 07:42 AM (10 days, 9 hours ago)

Terroristic threats of course.


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    #26858241 - 08/02/20 09:06 AM (10 days, 8 hours ago)

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Terroristic threats of course.



I don't see how a note saying "take a trip beyond the pigpen" with a bag of drugs can be seen as a terrorist threat.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: Cognitive_Shift] * 1
    #26858397 - 08/02/20 10:38 AM (10 days, 6 hours ago)

It’s Just a suggestion, really. The ONLY “negative” thing they did is call it a “pigpen”. Otherwise it’s just a bunch of free acid

It’s like if I got Hunter S Thompson’s briefcase in the mail and it was a lifetime of everything but inside it also said “take a trip beyond the -insult-“)

But it still had 75 pellets of mescaline, 4 sheets of high powered blotter acid.... you know the deal


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    #26858549 - 08/02/20 12:02 PM (10 days, 5 hours ago)

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WTF is "the movement" are you trying to take a shit?




You should give this book a read when you can.



There's a real movement by very credible people -- scholars, doctors, even a former Bush administration drug czar, who are underneath the surface currently leading a charge in an attempt to evaporate the negative stigma attached to psychedelics, and to one day maybe even get them legalized on some level. This author details many of the major players who have dedicated their lives to it.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: Fractal420]
    #26858736 - 08/02/20 01:55 PM (10 days, 3 hours ago)

I sure hope it wasn't 1P-LSD, I'm afraid of the substance getting banned if it gains too much attention on the public radar. While it obviously was a mockery of the police more than anything, I wouldn't put any response past such a thin-skinned and authoritarian group.


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    #26858752 - 08/02/20 02:04 PM (10 days, 3 hours ago)

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Agreed. It seems funny on the surface but stuff like this doesn't help the movement at all. Only hurts it. Not to mention a waste of LSD (if it in fact is genuine LSD).




What do you do with contaminated LSD give it to the cops.

WTF is "the movement" are you trying to take a shit? Freedom is about how just a society is! The holocausts was not the Jews fault even if the Nazis clamed it was, anymore then the drug war is the fault of drug users! Get your facts straight. :assimilate:

Cannabis users know this fact here in Canada where our society is just a little ahead of the rest of the world.




I suspect Niffla was referring to the movement to decriminalize drugs. While it isn't our fault as drug users that these substances are taboo and criminalized, that doesn't absolve us of counterproductive behavior. The fact of the matter is that these substances are stigmatized and illegal, and if we want to change that, we need to do something other than mock law enforcement and waste these substances on people who won't use them. Police are a cowardly lot who might very well take a harmless prank like this as a threat. I'm all for defying authority and civil disobedience but this is just childish. Maybe we could try something akin to the 4/20 protests when weed was still illegal?


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: GH19971]
    #26858770 - 08/02/20 02:17 PM (10 days, 2 hours ago)

The pigs and pig sympathizers' reaction to this "attack", or gift rather, reveals their struggle to breakthrough their poorly controlled reality and insecurities. This package could very well have relieved them from their propensity towards aggression. Pigpen was indeed the final hurt of this blow to their ego.

But yeah, as humorous as this is, I don't think it will help towards the legalization of psychedelics. It only incites them. Better to manipulate the police than to send psychedelics to their doorstep. Also, with all that acid you can share it among hopefuls and get them to join the cause. :sun:


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    #26859354 - 08/02/20 07:38 PM (9 days, 21 hours ago)

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Terroristic threats of course.



I don't see how a note saying "take a trip beyond the pigpen" with a bag of drugs can be seen as a terrorist threat.




"Terroristic threats" are threats to cause harm to another person with terrorization as the result of the said actions.

From their pov he's clearly threatening with extremely dangerous substances, trying to coerce them to harm themselves by consuming them. They are terrorized that this person might dose them with LSD.

In their mind its no different than me leaving a stick of dynamite and a lighter on your doorstep with a note urging you to light it in order to explode with happiness.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: Holybullshit] * 1
    #26859630 - 08/02/20 09:59 PM (9 days, 19 hours ago)

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In their mind its no different than me leaving a stick of dynamite and a lighter on your doorstep with a note urging you to light it in order to explode with happiness.




Yep. It's just ignorance. My brother-in-law, who was once a guy who wanted to be a cop (he ended up spending time working in a jail, he is now completely out of all of that altogether), the other day he thought LSD was basically PCP. I had to go in depth and try to correct him on that. There's a really bad stigma attached to LSD specifically for a lot of people. Like they believe the stories about how you'll go insane and jump off a building. Or end up being the leader of a murderous cult like Charles Manson or some shit.

I mean shit, LSD and mushrooms (and really all the classic psychedelics) are listed under schedule 1 drugs which are considered:




a substance with a high potential for abuse

The substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States




First off, the top one alone. Just think about how wrong that is. A high potential for abuse??? We all know that is unequivocally 100% false yet there it is.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: Niffla]
    #26860048 - 08/03/20 07:31 AM (9 days, 9 hours ago)

marijuana is schedule 1 Also, obviously


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: rider420]
    #26861808 - 08/04/20 01:10 AM (8 days, 15 hours ago)

I would be freaked out to even try to do this from here internationally with a fake return address and I send it to a police station in London or something. Even just a few hits. I mean the US could extradite my ass and make me serve time in a foreign prison. More then likely I would get away with it and for such a small amount it would not be worth the courts time or police time and money to arrest me in one place then extradite me to another and rack up a huge bill in both places considering investigations are much more costly then direct arrests and in the process they find drugs and hit you with another charge.

But man would I be paranoid regardless. Even a country at odds with the US where the US may just not give a fuck about their poor relationship and I want to have a good gag and send a bunch of LSD in a package through international mail to a police station in that country like somewhere in Asia I imagine the countries would get along just long enough for the US to extradite my ass to wherever the fuck so I could get the death penalty in that country. Imagine I send some shit like to North Korea to a police station then they threaten nuclear war with the US so the US extradites my shit over there for good relations.

Idk probably in a few days no one will remember this happened. Still it would suck to get caught.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: imachavel]
    #26861816 - 08/04/20 01:19 AM (8 days, 15 hours ago)

Person just wanted to make news. Such little amount could be sent on paper would cost much of anything. And a drop into any post box be secure.


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Re: LSD packages show up at police stations across St. Lawrence County in New York [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #26862557 - 08/04/20 02:09 PM (8 days, 2 hours ago)

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Terroristic threats of course.



I don't see how a note saying "take a trip beyond the pigpen" with a bag of drugs can be seen as a terrorist threat.





I dont either but i also dont see how it could be labeled an attack yet it was


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