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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26850655 - 07/28/20 08:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hydroxychloroquine was part of the standard treatment regimen worldwide for covid until recently
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
#26850673 - 07/28/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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HamHead said: On what paitents did you try it on morrowasted?
At what stage of infection were they?
Honest questions here.
Did you use zinc as well, or only hydroxychloroquine?
honest question: tell me what you think the "stages of infection" are
I'm no doctor. You tell me.
From what I recall, you are dealing with people who are in poor shape. I don't follow you or know details, only that you work in a hospital around covid paitents.
This is why I ask, how serious are your paitents?
If you were giving hydroxychloroquine to people already in an ICU on a ventilator, of course it's not going to do much.
What Dr. Zelenko advocates is early treatments, to keep people from ever seeing an ICU.
Wouldn't you agree that early treatments are better than watching people get sicker while not doing anything?
When there are other options.
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koods said: Hydroxychloroquine was part of the standard treatment regimen worldwide for covid until recently
Link?
Did they use zinc as well with these worldwide treatments?
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26850682 - 07/28/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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What about all the people who take hydroxychloroquine for other reasons and still get sick? All these lupus patients should never get covid in the first place but there’s no evidence they fare better.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26850693 - 07/28/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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What will be said when these studies are completed and show its effectiveness?
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
#26850700 - 07/28/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: What about all the people who take hydroxychloroquine for other reasons and still get sick? All these lupus patients should never get covid in the first place but there’s no evidence they fare better.
Keep ignoring zinc.
https://knowledgeofhealth.com/modern-day-zinc-deficiency-epidemic/
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead] 2
#26850722 - 07/28/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why are all of your links to shitty alternative health sites?
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
#26850725 - 07/28/20 08:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Why are all of your links to shitty alternative health sites?
To continue proving you wrong.
I'll keep these articles coming, showing doctors worldwide having success with HCQ combined with zinc.
I'll say again, hydroxychloroquine does not work alone, it must be used along side zinc.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26850727 - 07/28/20 08:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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All these months and you’ve failed to do so.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26850746 - 07/28/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I am no doctor either. HCQ + Zinc + Athizthromycin was the standard for everyone who didn't qualify for the remdesivir clinical trials back in late march through early may. there was not a significant level of improvement in those patients. if there were, we'd use it. HCQ, zinc, and azithromycin are much cheaper than remdesivir. if they worked, the hospital would be using them, specifically because they are cheaper. the fact that the hospital is choosing to bleed money (and give us all a 10% paycut meanwhile) in order to cancel certain elective surgeries and purchase drugs that actually do work is telling enough for me. All I can say is I saw people on the former cocktail, and I've seen people on remdesivir. With the former we had to constantly monitor EKGs, electrolyte levels, because HCQ fucks all of that up in the process of "maybe" helping. With remdesivir, there is no need to worry about EKG or electrolyte changes. is the difference "significant"? maybe. will it save everyone? no. if you want to go and take HCQ for YOUR PERSONAL "prevention", fine. Doctors here used to do it, and when they found out how dangerous it was for people who actually catch covid, they stopped. but by all means, you do you. in any case, there is no reason for you to be going around advocating for it other than to gain attention and some sort of weird self-validation as a contrarian
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods]
#26850748 - 07/28/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: All these months and you’ve failed to do so.
This is your opinion.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26850763 - 07/28/20 09:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll keep pulling articles then.
Showing other people, not my self, advocating HCQ+zinc.
You can say I'm wrong, by doing so, you are saying these professionals are also wrong.
Because that's all I'm doing is sharing other peoples opinions on their own experiences using HCQ and zinc.
Unfortunate you stopped using it. I still haven't gotten a solid answer as to what condition those paitents you help treat are in.
Early treatment is what is being advocated here. Within 5 days of first signs of symptoms.
Treating someone who has already developed pneumonia, IMO, is too late.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26850766 - 07/28/20 09:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think you mean to say in the opinion of the youtube people you've been watching
dude, whatever. do yourself.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: morrowasted]
#26850770 - 07/28/20 09:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: I think you mean to say in the opinion of the youtube people you've been watching
dude, whatever. do yourself.
We'll see who I find.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: koods] 1
#26850771 - 07/28/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Why are all of your links to shitty alternative health sites?
ALTERNATIVE FACTS, LOL
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26850773 - 07/28/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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https://www.globalresearch.ca/media-sabotage-hydroxychloroquine-covid-19-doctors-worldwide-protest-disaster/5717382
"TUCSON, Ariz., June 22, 2020 /PRNewswire/ — Today the Association of American Physicians & Surgeons files its motion for a preliminary injunction to compel release to the public of hydroxychloroquine by the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), in AAPS v. HHS, No. 1:20-cv-00493-RJJ-SJB (W.D. Mich.). Nearly 100 million doses of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) were donated to these agencies, and yet they have not released virtually any of it to the public…"
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26850782 - 07/28/20 09:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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-------------------- The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited, but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders https://www.icandecide.org/
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26850786 - 07/28/20 09:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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-------------------- The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited, but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders https://www.icandecide.org/
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26850787 - 07/28/20 09:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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HamHead said: https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/25658/20200512/hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin-zinc-triple-combo-proved-effective-coronavirus-patients-study.htm
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The researchers note that the triple-drug combo, however, did not change the average time the patients stayed hospitalized, which was about six days. It also didn't change the average duration severely ill patients spent hooked on the ventilator, which was five days.
Zinc is still given. HCQ isn't.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead]
#26850798 - 07/28/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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-------------------- The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited, but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders https://www.icandecide.org/
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine sulfate [Re: HamHead] 1
#26850802 - 07/28/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lol
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