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SaucyTuRkLeBiRd
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Subaeruginosa fruiting questions.. Soil ecology?
#26850479 - 07/28/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello everyone.
So for the past couple of years through the Autumn and early Winter here in Canberra I have a great time exploring and finding my own P.Subs. The Winters here hit harsh rather early on where I find mine and so the season is a little shorter than other places, with the peak being about mid May and tapering off rather suddenly in mid June.
Anyway to get to my question - I get that the Mushrooms will not fruit in the midst of Winter due to the harsh cold, but why don’t they fruit as we start exiting out and coming into Spring? Arguably the weather is similar and the days and nights are a similar temperature to when there is plenty of fruiting activity in late Autumn etc... The only thing I can think of is that the Summer prior is necessary to change the chemistry of the soil/wood chips to begin fruiting when the temp starts going down. I think that the full season is required for say, a fruiting tree, as it requires the year-round transformations as a prerequisite to fruiting. Obviously mycelium is completely different and in saying that - wood lovers (P.Subs etc) are a little more temperamental than say, Cubensis. Anyone who has attempted to cultivate them I’m sure would agree. Anyway, I digress. I’d love to hear your opinions.
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Re: Subaeruginosa fruiting questions.. Soil ecology? [Re: SaucyTuRkLeBiRd]
#26850540 - 07/28/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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A fungus is happy staying underground until it feels the most advantageous time has come to fruit. It’s all about survival. Basically soil nutrient is a huge factor in proliferation of mycelium but what promotes fruiting is temperature. I’ve heard it’s when underground temp dances around equilibrium with ambient air temp. In my area the most common psilocybe is cyanescens so I’ll use that as an example. During the summer mycelium stays busy breaking down and taking up nutrients when the lignin is most easy to break down because of the heat and moisture from watering garden beds, etc., (a few inches below dirt around here is always moist) temps are way too hot for fruiting because they know they won’t survive, so when temp of soils get to around 50 degrees or so and ambient air temp is about the same and the rain comes, the slow evaporation of water from soil promotes mycelium to knot and form pins, knowing that that is the most advantageous time to drop spores. Spores handle low temps well and need moisture to start sending out hyphae. So through the winter they work on very slowly getting into new nutrients and over spring the hyphae moves deeper and gets to a microclimate where it can really get to work, then they cycle happens again. Every mushroom has different conditions that they find most ideal. It’s not the most elegant explanation but that’s what I got for ya.
Edited by HSapiensAmericanus (07/28/20 07:19 PM)
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That’s a really good explanation!
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Very interesting! Great explanation - thank you.
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SaucyTuRkLeBiRd
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Thanks for the good info!
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Re: Subaeruginosa fruiting questions.. Soil ecology? [Re: SaucyTuRkLeBiRd]
#26872417 - 08/09/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
SaucyTuRkLeBiRd said: I get that the Mushrooms will not fruit in the midst of Winter due to the harsh cold, but why don’t they fruit as we start exiting out and coming into Spring? Arguably the weather is similar and the days and nights are a similar temperature to when there is plenty of fruiting activity in late Autumn etc
They do fruit in Winter even when it gets very cold. If we had winters like Europe or America probably not, ie subzero temps and snow.
My brother and I have found them in Spring, as late as mid/late October. That was a good year admittedly, a really good year (2005).
Heres a sub pin from October 2005
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Edited by OOISI (08/09/20 09:57 PM)
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