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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: Vylie]
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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: Rahz]
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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: Vylie]
#26859343 - 08/02/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I kinda like your vibe, but flat statements aren't the greatest. I do appreciate the correspondence, though I'm past my mystical stage. Not that there's no mystery to life or reality but I'm okay with not having explanations for everything in lieu of explanations that make sense.
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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: Rahz]
#26859583 - 08/02/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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the harvest has started
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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: Vylie]
#26860211 - 08/03/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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the insects are you parents "no talk while eating"
purple lives matter
psychedelic town is in your head, it's always there, easy to forget.
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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: Rahz]
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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: laughingdog]
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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: Vylie]
#26861986 - 08/04/20 04:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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what if your body and all other bodies are expanding?
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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: Vylie]
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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: Vylie]
#26862152 - 08/04/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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and what if consciousness is just memory with sensation.
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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: Vylie]
#26862160 - 08/04/20 08:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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don’t you find quantum mechanics mysterious?
Sure, physics too. They are interesting models.
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When you lift the item, you spend energy to increase the system’s potential energy but you get it back when you put down the item. When you start moving it in a horizontal direction, you invest energy that transforms into kinetic energy. You get it back when you stop the movement of the item.
There is energy being used, and those things take time. That is the point.
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You always get back to the hypothesis that the aliens are far from us. Why do you take it granted? What if you are grown in a monotub?
It's just a matter of degree. In a mono-tub there is still space. We all have the experience of space here. Things exist in space. Some things are further than others. These are relationships we perceive. We can model aspects of our perception with math, and on the mental level there are models being created that serve the same purpose on a local level. These models when they have validity are good predictors. If you think "out there" is somehow different and not really out there, it's not my job to agree with you unless you can provide a convincing argument rather than making flat statements like no space, no planets, etc.
I can entertain the idea that space is only a property of relationships, but that's as real as it needs to be. We can postulate that there's a way to teleport and thus change the relationship without using movement, but it needs to be proven. That quantum mechanics is mysterious doesn't prove relationships are voluntary or invalid or based on limiting beliefs.
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If the photon has any kind of energy at the speed of light, then it should have a mass at the speed of light. That’s because E=mc2.
E=mc2 applies when there is mass, answering the question of how much energy does a particular mass have. Conversely, if there is energy there is potentially mass. Mass I suspect is a property of entanglement and not an inherent quality of energy. Models like E=mc2 are not fucked up, but limited. They don't explain everything, but if they are good predictors they are valid in that sense because that's what they are for. There is a formula for calculating the energy of a photon in the link I provided, no m necessary.
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You forgot that physics says the light needs no medium to travel. And if the medium is expanding, why is there a redshift, and why isn’t your body growing?
You seem to be making the assumption that a vacuum is the absence of a medium. Space is the medium, which is the set of relationships in which everything exists. An expanding medium necessitates not everything expanding, otherwise there would be no expansion or change in relationship. Photons and bodies don't grow with the medium. Why is that? I don't know. Why should they? Not all the math or understanding is available for us to consider so we consider what is available. Just because not everything makes sense doesn't mean nothing makes sense. We perceive relationships and we make models. They're not "god's word" but if they are correct predictors they are valid in that way. And while it's not difficult to suggest that we don't understand it all, that's not a good basis for jumping to conclusions, trying to arbitrarily invalidate physics or quantum mechanics because we can't fully wrap our mind around it all. Mysterious! Means not knowing. I'm okay with it.
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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: Vylie]
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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: Rahz]
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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: Vylie]
#26862436 - 08/04/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Vylie said:
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and what if consciousness is just memory with sensation.
Once I experienced a temporary memory loss due to a bad move.
When I opened my eyes, I did not recognize my old friend who was standing above me and who freaked out. I did not recognize the place. (It was his apartment). For a while, I could not talk.
Yet I had consciousness.
I say it doesn’t depend on your memories.
contentious aren't ya!
during amnesia your perceptions were incomplete, so your consciousness was incomplete, yet you formed the new memory which you relate to us now; as if the lack of recollection at that moment, were proof that consciousness (still forming the memory in question, but unable to access others,) does not involve memory, yet even in this instance it does, very troubling to the event as well.
and what of your consciousness just before you could not recognize your friend. Most likely a gap - possible reflexes, but nobody there.
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Re: The right time to harvest [Re: Vylie]
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