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Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow?
#26847489 - 07/27/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know not everybody agrees that a cube is a cube. (I do). But i'm not here to argue that. I just want to know what is the easiest mushroom (any species) to grow. Or even stones.
Is there a ease of cultivation chart somewhere that I have missed?
Mushroom species list: 1. Easiest 2. 3. 4. 5...
Cubes list: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5...
Sclerotia: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5...
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: 3some] 1
#26847613 - 07/27/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I doubt it matters, but Golden Teacher and B+ are popular.
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: Brian Jones]
#26847785 - 07/27/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also, most PE types are really slow growing and some need a casing layer, so these may be a lil more difficult than others.
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: One of Us]
#26847804 - 07/27/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have always noticed Cambodians are a bit faster than other grows I've done. But in reality it all comes down to genetics and environmental factors
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: One of Us]
#26848470 - 07/27/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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One of Us said:
Also, most PE types are really slow growing and some need a casing layer, so these may be a lil more difficult than others.
Sorry, what is PE?
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: 3some]
#26848559 - 07/27/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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PE = Penis Envy
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: Broken Veils]
#26848590 - 07/27/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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PE is the shit.

Slow but crazy strong and yields big.
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: A.k.a]
#26848601 - 07/27/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I’m a newb but I had B+ BRF jars fully colonize in just over 2 weeks from inoculation. First fruits in less than 1 month from inoculation. Which seems very fast
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: CrashTest]
#26848611 - 07/27/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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#1 Stropharia & #2 Texas Orange Cap. Thats like 95% of all my grows cause you can do them as MS and reliably get canopies.
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: Munchauzen]
#26848694 - 07/27/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I’m not sure about cakes but with shoeboxes a month from inoculating jars is about right.
Never done stropharia but I agree on toc, plenty of awesome ms grows with it. Fast too.
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: A.k.a] 1
#26848706 - 07/27/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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A cube is easiest to grow. This answer is worth 1 million dollars. 🤣
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: eatyualive]
#26848785 - 07/27/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've been growing PE for about 4 years from a single spore syringe I bought in 2016. A little slower than others, but the yield is well worth it. Solid stems. First flush yields about 25-28 gms. Easy to grow, I think so.
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: Shroomer J]
#26849038 - 07/27/20 11:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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PE and APE seems to be slow on agar too. Or is just mine?
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: Shroomer J]
#26849054 - 07/27/20 11:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomer J said: I've been growing PE for about 4 years from a single spore syringe I bought in 2016. A little slower than others, but the yield is well worth it. Solid stems. First flush yields about 25-28 gms. Easy to grow, I think so.
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Shroomer J said: I've been growing PE for about 4 years from a single spore syringe I bought in 2016. A little slower than others, but the yield is well worth it. Solid stems. First flush yields about 25-28 gms. Easy to grow, I think so.
28g dried?
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: 3some]
#26849517 - 07/28/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yep, they're monsters. Big beefy shrooms. Everyone should try growing them at least once, but you probably won't stop after you see the results.
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: Bsdgaou]
#26849651 - 07/28/20 10:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bsdgaou said: PE and APE seems to be slow on agar too. Or is just mine?
Ape started out very slow on agar for me. Once the plate got about half colonized it seemed like it sped up. I spawned some TOC and ape the same day and the TOC was visibly recovered after less than 24 hours and ripping through while it took the ape about 2 days to recover and really start showing signs of colonizing but again once it got going a bit it sped up and I had myc poking through the top layer around 8 days, full colonization in 10-11 days and now it’s just thickening up.
To the OP if you’re looking for the simplest way to get actives for a trip or three I’d probably say growing stones, since you just need clean inoculate and a jar or bag of grain that will just sit there for a couple months. As far as cubes, any of them except mutant varieties. TOC is extremely fast but I hear can be weak in potency. I haven’t tried any yet but they stained a lighter blue/green instead of the dark blue of the PE6 I’ve been growing. I know staining isn’t always indicative of potency but mostly I think it is lol.
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26850925 - 07/28/20 11:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Roger Clemency said:
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Bsdgaou said: PE and APE seems to be slow on agar too. Or is just mine?
Ape started out very slow on agar for me. Once the plate got about half colonized it seemed like it sped up. I spawned some TOC and ape the same day and the TOC was visibly recovered after less than 24 hours and ripping through while it took the ape about 2 days to recover and really start showing signs of colonizing but again once it got going a bit it sped up and I had myc poking through the top layer around 8 days, full colonization in 10-11 days and now it’s just thickening up.
To the OP if you’re looking for the simplest way to get actives for a trip or three I’d probably say growing stones, since you just need clean inoculate and a jar or bag of grain that will just sit there for a couple months. As far as cubes, any of them except mutant varieties. TOC is extremely fast but I hear can be weak in potency. I haven’t tried any yet but they stained a lighter blue/green instead of the dark blue of the PE6 I’ve been growing. I know staining isn’t always indicative of potency but mostly I think it is lol.
Yeah. That's my thoughts too. Growing stones. Just got one Galindoi print coming from Marketplace. Not easy to find prints for stones. 4months into this hobby and I have failed to see even one pin. I know PE stands for penis envy now. Does PE6 means 6 inches? Not much to be envious about
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: 3some]
#26851174 - 07/29/20 06:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Depends on girth I suppose and where you stand currently. But PE6 is short for TX PE6 which is a cross of a Texas variety and PE, the 6th gen maybe. It was release too early and mostly reverted back to a regular cube.
If you haven’t seen pins in 4 months of work I can only guess you’ve been trying to skip the agar step. For stones it’s even more important than with cubes that you have totally clean inoculate because cubes can be grown in a small window even with sketchy spawn, as long as it’s not too bad, then you might see some mold around the first flush. But with stones they need to grow for months to become potent (at least that’s what I’ve always heard and I never cut any grows short to test) so if you go spore straight to grain there will be plenty of time for anything nasty in there to fully take over.
That’s assuming you haven’t been trying to clean stuff on agar first, if you have been you have to look at your technique and process
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26851201 - 07/29/20 06:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Roger Clemency said: Depends on girth I suppose and where you stand currently. But PE6 is short for TX PE6 which is a cross of a Texas variety and PE, the 6th gen maybe. It was release too early and mostly reverted back to a regular cube.
If you haven’t seen pins in 4 months of work I can only guess you’ve been trying to skip the agar step. For stones it’s even more important than with cubes that you have totally clean inoculate because cubes can be grown in a small window even with sketchy spawn, as long as it’s not too bad, then you might see some mold around the first flush. But with stones they need to grow for months to become potent (at least that’s what I’ve always heard and I never cut any grows short to test) so if you go spore straight to grain there will be plenty of time for anything nasty in there to fully take over.
That’s assuming you haven’t been trying to clean stuff on agar first, if you have been you have to look at your technique and process
I did. I jumped straight into agar because I happened to have a pc on hand and had learned agar in uni. As far as I can tell, there are no contamination in my tubs. I took shortcut though, by using unmodified tub and no casing layer. I guess I shouldn't have done that because I'm not a bodhisatta 
 My grain spawn is as white and fluffy as a bunny's tail.
 If there are contamination, I can't tell.
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: 3some]
#26851204 - 07/29/20 06:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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 This is the same tub from 2 weeks ago. Not much progress.
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: 3some]
#26851238 - 07/29/20 07:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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PE6 for me.. grows fast, the agar is aggressive and nice fruits, it's pretty much my go to now..
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: icetech]
#26851244 - 07/29/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have so much trouble growing stones its not even funny...Bastards mock me!
Cube is a cube guy ehh? Then I say GT or AA+ is the easiest strains to grow.
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: 3some]
#26851247 - 07/29/20 07:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im quite literally a first timer but it would seem your myc has retreated over 2 weeks instead of consuming more space and one qiestion why are ypu opening the container expoaing it to air? As i said first timer here. Have pe6 in a syringe and g.teachers in jars. Learning as i go
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: toad420]
#26851257 - 07/29/20 07:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Holy shit that's 2 weeks growth? Throw that thing out. Of a window of a moving car.
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: toad420]
#26851318 - 07/29/20 07:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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toad420 said: Im quite literally a first timer but it would seem your myc has retreated over 2 weeks instead of consuming more space and one qiestion why are ypu opening the container expoaing it to air? As i said first timer here. Have pe6 in a syringe and g.teachers in jars. Learning as i go
As long as it is fully colonized, it is contamination resistant. That's what people in here says. Plus, if you ever take a picture of a tub with a lid on, they will ask you to go fuck yourself. Just saying.
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: sandman420]
#26851327 - 07/29/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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sandman420 said: Holy shit that's 2 weeks growth? Throw that thing out. Of a window of a moving car.
Shit situation right? But it's ok. Patience cultivates mushrooms... OM....
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: sandman420]
#26851355 - 07/29/20 08:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Something seems really off about that. Like it’s either cube myc totally entwined or fighting with something or maybe some other type of myc all together. Even fluffy cultures on agar always thin out and get some rhizo fingers for me once they’re on bulk sub. Maybe it was clean and the sub is just super wet? Idk what that would make it look like but some areas in those pics look super wet.
This was a fluffy tomentose culture but I can’t find any pics of jars.
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Re: Assuming a cube is a cube, is a cube... which ones are easiest to grow? [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26851375 - 07/29/20 08:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I’ve only run pe6 twice but both times it was smaller than average first flush and then giants after that.
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