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meltdowner
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Boom, falcon gotta correct the TDS daily around here and then the mental gymnastics start up.
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He quit the CIA before the executive order prohibiting such operations. Like I said...outdated information.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03
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Re: Ass handed to me [Re: Enlil]
#26834074 - 07/20/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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It was already prohibited; hence the testimony to Congress I noted in 6:10 to 6:48 of the video.
Which executive order are you referring to?
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Re: Ass handed to me [Re: Enlil] 2
#26835158 - 07/20/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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No response yet?
The reason for the smiley face in my last post, and for anyone interested, Reagan passed Executive Order 12,333 in 1981, which "allows the CIA, America's chief foreign intelligence gathering entity, to direct domestic counterintelligence, foreign intelligence, covert operations, and law enforcement activity against United States citizens" (source) if it is for an authorized intelligence purpose, and has senior approval for such collection.
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Well, as the OP I'm maybe suppose to point out you fellows hijacked my thread but I don't care. Trump can lick my sweaty butt hole and you guys carry on.
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Trump does make a pretty good round mouth.
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InfraredRick said: Well, as the OP I'm maybe suppose to point out you fellows hijacked my thread but I don't care. Trump can lick my sweaty butt hole and you guys carry on.
When I saw your first post in this thread, I took it as sarcasm, but other people took it literally. But I wasn't sure.
After seeing this post I'm pretty sure I was right the first time.
Carry on.
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These are two of the top 20 worst things he has done.
#3: Unprecedented relations with North Korea. An easing of tensions. Meditating in such a way that allowed the leaders of SK and NK to meet peacefully and step into each other's land.
Bullshit, he has fueled the fire in NK since election, he praised Kim after he tortured warmbeir and Trump said Kim didn't know bout warmbeir. Trump said kim loved his people and just inherted a bad job. Kim almost got Trump to cease joint military drills with SK meant to stop nuclear war. He gave Kim countless media clips he immediately used as propaganda. They showed Trump saying amazing things about Kim and his people he it up. Trump has been played like a fiddle by Kim more then any president ever has. And where are we now with them?
#4: Trump is working on the opioid crisis in a major way. 6 billion secured to assist with this. As much as I love psychedelics and weed, I've seen non-controlled illegal opioids destroy lives.
This is where I get mad. My dad is sitting next to me right now in agonizing pain because he was injured in LAPD in the 80s after he served it Vietnam and Germany. When Trump declared a "national opioid crisis" My father was told he had to choose between his ptsd/anxiety meds OR his pain meds.
He had to pick the anxiety meds. So a war hero, Ex LAPD officer who had his discs in his neck shattered by gangbangers protecting and serving now has to be in constant pain because there's a huge misunderstanding that cutting these medications down to nothing will help overdose numbers when in reality the more you restrict opioid the more people turn to shady H or pure fent. My mom has panic attacks that are complicated by mitrovalve prolapse, she had been taking .25 mg of Xanax for 20 years and all of the sudden POOF gone.
She's almost 70 btw and my dad is 70. I personally went from going to college every year 2 classes away from graduating and they forced me so low on my ptsd/anxiety meds I couldn't be in class anymore and have been filing for unemployment since. Declaring a national emergency on opiates and benzos has destroyed my whole families lives. I knew a guy from a support group that had very bad post-traumatic stress disorder from two tours in the Middle East. As we were all going down in medications one day we got the news that he had robbed a pharmacy to get the anxiety medication that he needed during his episode. Right before those medications were cut there was no way that guy would ever have robbed a pharmacy but he didn't have the meds he needed anymore and it drove him straight to that.
Scientists actually say that it's causing more deaths and overdoses as stricter laws are put in place because people just turn to street opiates or benzos both of which are often laced with fent
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Seriously_trippin said: These are two of the worst things he has done...
I agree with you on your second point, but your first shows democrats have become the party of perpetual conflict.
Easing of tensions used to be a good thing, until democrats decided it wasn't.
As I pointed out before, the coroner report showed no signs of torture, and Warmbier was released to the US after showing signs of serious health issues.
I'm open to new evidence I haven't seen before, but so far everything's been along the lines of "c'mon Fal, let's make believe bad things about N. Korea!".
I'm NOT saying N. Korea isn't a bad country, I'm saying let's stop the make believe (reread my signature).
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Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (07/26/20 06:06 PM)
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Totally agree with #'s 3 & 4. Have you ever talked to Dad about kratom (or medical marijuana)? I know he's ex-cop and all, but tell him you know a 63 year old who uses krat daily for anxiety and pain relief. It's certainly not as good as prescription meds but it helps a lot better than nothing. Be well brother... . . .
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Just wanted to say that it is totally fucked. It seems your father is victim of VA policies; so many vets started ODing on the painkiller benzo cocktail the powers that be made a blanket policy.....which fucked so many people.
Done the whole opiod dance with the VA in the past(they prescibed me fetnyal WITH 10mg oxxys...then placed on methedone)....... ...pure hell. So this knee jerk reaction was an attempt to cover thier ass for over prescribing.
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Seriously_trippin said: These are two of the worst things he has done...
I agree with you on your second point, but your first shows democrats have become the party of perpetual conflict.
Easing of tensions used to be a good thing, until democrats decided it wasn't.
As I pointed out before, the coroner report showed no signs of torture, and Warmbier was released to the US after showing signs of serious health issues.
I'm open to new evidence I haven't seen before, but so far everything's been along the lines of "c'mon Fal, let's make believe bad things about N. Korea!".
I'm NOT saying N. Korea isn't a bad country, I'm saying let's stop the make believe (reread my signature).
This isnt the first attempt to try and amke some kind of peace North korea has been knoen to have had brutal concentration camps for decades Quote:
vinsue said: Totally agree with #'s 3 & 4. Have you ever talked to Dad about kratom (or medical marijuana)? I know he's ex-cop and all, but tell him you know a 63 year old who uses krat daily for anxiety and pain relief. It's certainly not as good as prescription meds but it helps a lot better than nothing. Be well brother... . . . 
First thank you very much it kills me to see what this has done to my family but when i was 14 or so i convinced him to try medical cannabis and cannabis has been his saving grace since he was diagnosed terminal given 5 years to live in 06 for toxic chemical damage to the lungs. He's beat so many expectations but the pain is unavoidable with crushed and building discs in the neck. I'm convinced getting him medical cannabis saved his life and have been a life long advocate because of it. So even though we can't afford much her we always make sure he has it. It helps a little but with that level of pain it barely touches it. Because he has so many stomach problems and is A lot of meds Kratom never worked for him. Always made him nauseaiated more then relieved. It's just horrendous he's in that position but that's how destructive that policy was and still is. Some people genuinely need these medications and the crackdown had doctors saying you should be on this med but the FDA will pull my license.Its sickening to think like you said people see addiction and overdose and have a kneeslap reaction of "if we made laws much stricter it'd lower addiction and death" it's done the exact opposite. Trump used the national opioid crisis to hard hit states like NH and made a blanket ban for votes not once considered how it'd affect legit patients.
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SirTripAlot said: Just wanted to say that it is totally fucked. It seems your father is victim of VA policies; so many vets started ODing on the painkiller benzo cocktail the powers that be made a blanket policy.....which fucked so many people.
Done the whole opiod dance with the VA in the past(they prescibed me fetnyal WITH 10mg oxxys...then placed on methedone)....... ...pure hell. So this knee jerk reaction was an attempt to cover thier ass for over prescribing.
Edit: I second, vinsue. Kratom helped me as well.
Thanks man yeah interestingly enough that wasn't even through the va it was just Kaiser but like I said they also cut my meds and my mom's meds all at once so it was directed across the board by the FDA because it's a "national crisis". Like you said this was in response to a lot of overdoses but they failed to realize there was just more fentanyl going around and patients that really need it need to be protected . It's a gross misunderstanding of how to combat addiction and it's ruining lives.
I appreciate the understanding from both of you because I feel very abandoned by my country at times especially when it comes to our medical system and this particular issue. Hopefully more people will realize that some people really need medications to live their lives with quality and have injuries and ailments that are being ignored. It's an important issue that doesn't seem to be talked about much and I appreciate at least you guys caring
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I'm NOT saying N. Korea isn't a bad country, I'm saying let's stop the make believe.
This isnt the first attempt to try and amke some kind of peace
Correct, Clinton made peace with them.
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Seriously_trippin said: North korea has been knoen to have had brutal concentration camps for decades
That's not what I was calling make believe.
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Re: Ass handed to me [Re: vinsue]
#26847391 - 07/27/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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vinsue said: Totally agree with #'s 3 & 4. Have you ever talked to Dad about kratom (or medical marijuana)? I know he's ex-cop and all, but tell him you know a 63 year old who uses krat daily for anxiety and pain relief. It's certainly not as good as prescription meds but it helps a lot better than nothing. Be well brother... . . . 
We're the same age. I was guessing it was close.
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trump hides too many things, lies too often, and takes credit for other people's accomplishments. I will not vote for him.
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