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Is Store Bought Rue Extract Any Good?
    #26845232 - 07/25/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

What quality is bought Syrian Rue extract for activating DMT?  I was wondering if so, how much to use, per a 120 mg dose of DMT.  (I'd share a specific link, but think such isn't allowed here.)


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Re: Is Store Bought Rue Extract Any Good? [Re: Noitartst]
    #26845483 - 07/26/20 03:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Do you know what exactly the extract is?

It's very hard to offer advice when we don't know what it is.


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Re: Is Store Bought Rue Extract Any Good? [Re: Northerner]
    #26846961 - 07/26/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Look on Avalon Plants.  We're talking products named Harmala HCL Isolate 95%, 
Syrian Rue 10:1 - 3g - Peganum harmala, and Harmala Freebase - isolate 99% .


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Re: Is Store Bought Rue Extract Any Good? [Re: Noitartst] * 1
    #26847099 - 07/27/20 03:21 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

With the HCL take between 170-220mg for full inhibition.
With the freebase take between 150-200mg for full inhibition.
I don't know about the x times because I cannot know the strength of the source material. :shrug:
These depend on your weight and how far out there you want to get. I normally take about 180-200mg freebase, I weigh 90kg and am pretty soft with psychs.

Don't take 120mg of DMT orally first time, you'll probably end up with PTSD or struggle. Try 80-100mg taken 20-30 minutes after the rue extract on an empty-ish stomach. 100mg is very strong. If you really want to make it kick eat a slice of white bread or a croissant just before the DMT.

Have fun.  :thumbup:


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Re: Is Store Bought Rue Extract Any Good? [Re: Northerner]
    #26847686 - 07/27/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Okay, I weigh around 155 pounds, and last time I took DMT orally, I didn't get strong visuals for whatever reason, and wish to make sure that the DMT activators I'm buying work, and work well.  Who here can vouch for them?


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Re: Is Store Bought Rue Extract Any Good? [Re: Noitartst] * 2
    #26847823 - 07/27/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You could extract harmalas yourself. With a bit of effort you should be able to get enough harmala for >100 doses and it will only cost you ~$20.

     

That's from 500g or rue.


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Re: Is Store Bought Rue Extract Any Good? [Re: Northerner]
    #26849336 - 07/28/20 06:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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With the HCL take between 170-220mg for full inhibition.
With the freebase take between 150-200mg for full inhibition.
I don't know about the x times because I cannot know the strength of the source material. :shrug:
These depend on your weight and how far out there you want to get. I normally take about 180-200mg freebase, I weigh 90kg and am pretty soft with psychs.

Don't take 120mg of DMT orally first time, you'll probably end up with PTSD or struggle. Try 80-100mg taken 20-30 minutes after the rue extract on an empty-ish stomach. 100mg is very strong. If you really want to make it kick eat a slice of white bread or a croissant just before the DMT.

Have fun.  :thumbup:




Isn't 100mg even too strong?

The ayahuasca brew recipe I follow is 6-12g or A. confusa root bark, which is 1% DMT and 1% NMT

That yields 60-120mg and is enough for 2-3 powerful trips

50mg is considered an extremely high dose smoked

Might just be me but I've also felt more powerful and hallucinogenic experiencing upping the harmine/harmaline, between 300 and 450 mg of harmine/harmaline HCl


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Re: Is Store Bought Rue Extract Any Good? [Re: Noitartst]
    #26849643 - 07/28/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Just grind and encapsulate.


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Re: Is Store Bought Rue Extract Any Good? [Re: Garvaeldt]
    #26850150 - 07/28/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

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With the HCL take between 170-220mg for full inhibition.
With the freebase take between 150-200mg for full inhibition.
I don't know about the x times because I cannot know the strength of the source material. :shrug:
These depend on your weight and how far out there you want to get. I normally take about 180-200mg freebase, I weigh 90kg and am pretty soft with psychs.

Don't take 120mg of DMT orally first time, you'll probably end up with PTSD or struggle. Try 80-100mg taken 20-30 minutes after the rue extract on an empty-ish stomach. 100mg is very strong. If you really want to make it kick eat a slice of white bread or a croissant just before the DMT.

Have fun.  :thumbup:




Isn't 100mg even too strong?

The ayahuasca brew recipe I follow is 6-12g or A. confusa root bark, which is 1% DMT and 1% NMT

That yields 60-120mg and is enough for 2-3 powerful trips

50mg is considered an extremely high dose smoked

Might just be me but I've also felt more powerful and hallucinogenic experiencing upping the harmine/harmaline, between 300 and 450 mg of harmine/harmaline HCl



It's curious that plants seem to be more active like that. Even with rue tea people commonly start with 3g seeds, which at ~5% is only 15mg harmalas. :shrug:

Most people start to feel unwell/like it's too much if they take more than 250mg harmala freebase as well. 200mg is more than enough for me. Everyone has different tolerances with these plants and extracts. Commonly the more you do it the more active they become for you. You develop a sensitivity rather than a tolerance.

I've taken 100mg DMT freebase extract from several different plant sources before and found it very strong, it's definitely out there. But I wouldn't call it an overdose. 50mg is where things start to get interesting for me. A very experienced friend does only 70mg, no more. The last few times I did 80mg goo extract from obtusifolia and found it just right. That same batch of goo gave a friend of mine a great experience with 90mg on top of 200mg harmala freebase as a first time.

But curiously 100mg of 40% changa will knock me hard, complete other dimension. More so than eating 80mg. I wouldn't eat 120mg though, I'd get operated on by aliens.  :lol:

Also, acuminata like all alkaloid containing plants can have wildly varying levels of alkaloids. Up to 2% DMT and down to 0.1% NMT, or vice-versa. Soil types, climate, season, time of harvest and more effects the alkaloid levels. It's one of the reasons people use extracts rather.

So I dunno man, these things are hard to quantify precisely. There probably are people out there who'd be brain raped by 100mg orally. It's definitely possible. I've met people who regularly smoke 80-100mg freebase as well though... :shrug:


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Re: Is Store Bought Rue Extract Any Good? [Re: Noitartst]
    #26860975 - 08/03/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Well, I did process my own Rue, and I wasn't sure that my rue worked.  I'm just seeking something the at works.


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Re: Is Store Bought Rue Extract Any Good? [Re: Noitartst]
    #26861016 - 08/03/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Rue by itself is pretty trippy. Did you try taking 200mg of your extract by itself?


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