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LazerBrain
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First mushroom trip report: failure
#26845154 - 07/25/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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In my previous post I asked what dose I should take for my first time tripping on mushrooms and I decided on 2g to make a tea on and put some honey in there. When I take LSD I always go for a walk while the drug starts to take effect so I thought I should do the same this time. About 20 min in to my walk I started feeling a little lightheaded and nauseous, at times I was afraid i was going to throw up in the middle of the street but I never did fortunately. I cut my walk short and started walking home at this point I started having weird feelings like my consciousness was struggling to disconnect from my body, This was terrifying to me as i was out in public with people around and I didn't know what would happen or what i would do if this disconnect occurred. On top of that I was overcome by my old death anxiety that i have been dealing with for years. Luckily I always have a plan if things go sideways and had 2x 1mg benzos in a zippy, Waited until I was walking through a somewhat secluded area close to home and took one. At this point it felt like the muscles in my body was tightening especially in my jaw. As I got home I put on some music and took the other benzo for good measure, the first one hadn't kicked in yet and I was still sure I was going to die. I laid down in my bed listening to the music trying to concentrate on my breathing to calm myself down, I closed my eyes and I had what was probably the closest I have ever gotten to real hallucinations, nothing special I just saw black and grey squiggly lines moving. After 10 min or so I felt my anxiety slowly disappear and so did most visuals although they weren't much to speak of to begin with. And that was pretty much what happened my first time on mushrooms, I haven't given up despite a shitty experience I just need to be more careful i guess.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LazerBrain] 2
#26845172 - 07/25/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Normal situation.
Lay back with some music next time. No need to venture outside. You'll get a feel for things with experience. Just be brave but not stupid.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26845278 - 07/25/20 10:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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LosTresOjos said: Normal situation.
Lay back with some music next time. No need to venture outside. You'll get a feel for things with experience. Just be brave but not stupid.
This user said in the other thread they have taken LSD every weekend since christmas. He's far past stupid at this point.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Azure Essence]
#26845347 - 07/25/20 11:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why so harsh? I like to treat myself on the weekends and any day on acid is a good day.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LazerBrain]
#26845392 - 07/26/20 01:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The title is misleading. This isn’t a trip report because you didn’t trip, and it wasn’t a failure, you killed it.
As an experienced LSD user, what were you expecting from 2g of mushrooms. Btw, 2g is nothing.
It sounds like you’re too immature for mushrooms, my friend. If you do take them again, work on your set and setting beforehand
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LazerBrain]
#26845422 - 07/26/20 01:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Geez OP, you've really copped it in the replies in this thread.
Sorry that this happened to you. I wouldn't wish anxiety verging on panic on my worst enemy.
Have a bit of a read about set and setting and have another go. Look forward to your report
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: microbiome88]
#26845448 - 07/26/20 02:44 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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True, I didn't really think about set and setting for my first mushroom trip. That was outright retarded of me. Because I have taken LSD regularly and never had a bad time with it, how i thought mushrooms was gonna be was like: It's gonna be like LSD but different and a body high like weed... That was wrong to put it lightly. However this experience taught me the hard way and i will definitely think of set and setting next time as well as be more careful.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LazerBrain]
#26845453 - 07/26/20 02:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Try reading up on some fungi experience / trip reports.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LazerBrain]
#26845488 - 07/26/20 04:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm happy you didn't take 3 grams. Mushrooms feel very different from LSD. Anyway, if you knew you had a benzo on hand you could have waited some more before taking it. Sometimes, it's on the other side of fear that you find the answer to your questions, but only if you surrender and trust the mushrooms.
Next time you're worried about death, remember that everything in the universe exists for eternity. Nothing has ever been truly destroyed nor created and nothing exists independently from everything else. What you see as a process of annihilation is more similar to a process of dissolution, or expansion.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: InnerEternity]
#26845492 - 07/26/20 04:18 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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From my own mushroom experiences, I fully agree that nothing ever dies; conservation of mass theory tells us that. What I haven’t worked out yet though, is entropy. The whole life of the universe is heading towards chaos, and everything is moving away from everything else at such pace, we may live for eternity, but the vast majority of eternity will be spent alone.
That is what I haven’t reconciled yet 
DJ Ed
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: DJ Ed]
#26845579 - 07/26/20 06:44 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is a tough question, but I'll try to tell you what two people who know better told me. When in the last year of high school I had to write an essay for graduation, I decided to talk about the nature of time (I admit it was acid's fault ). So I asked about it to two physics professors.
The first one (an eccentric and easy-going man) told me about the relativity of simultaneity. English isn't my native language so I'll paste Wikipedia's definition. According to Einstein's special theory of relativity, it is impossible to say in an absolute sense that two distinct events occur at the same time if those events are separated in space. If one reference frame assigns precisely the same time to two events that are at different points in space, a reference frame that is moving relative to the first will generally assign different times to the two events. From this concept one could say that, if we took a number of observers tending to infinity, all the events of the universe would be simultaneous. Therefore time is like a frozen river, but our brains perceive it to be flowing.
The second one (a rigid and cynical woman), told me that while she wouldn't go that far with assumptions (speaking about the frozen river), she wanted to add something about entropy and the arrow of time. I wrote down her words (don't know if they are hers or if she read them somewhere). "Entropy describes the directional irreversibility of heat transfer. This is the second law of thermodynamics, the only law for which there's difference between past and future. Being heat a state of molecular agitation, Boltzmann realized that the arrow of time corresponds to a progressive increase of disorder within a system (passing from an ordered state to progressively less ordered states). But then Boltzmann realized that every state can be said to be an ordered state, if we consider every single one of its aspects, because it has features that make it unique. Therefore we can say that a state is characterized by low entropy only if we can't distinguish all of its configurations. So entropy is a consequence of the human approximation of reality.
If you're speaking about the supposed heat death of the universe, it would happen only if the universe was flat (we have evidence it is flat on our scale, but it could still be globally curved, an hyperspherical manifold for example) and it depends on the nature of dark energy (expansion is accelerating but it could slow down and reverse in the future). Either way, it's not like before the big bang the universe didn't exist (it was just "compressed"), and it comes "natural" to me to imagine the universe as cyclical, so I personally like the big bounce / ekpyrosis theory, but this is speculation.
In the end, I believe it's hard to satisfy the human mind, unless we have direct experience (true or supposed) of what lies beyond our knowledge (as it can happen in meditation, with psychedelics or in NDEs). I still remember that after I talked about my essay during the examination, another professor (a beautiful and sensual woman) told me "I get that time doesn't really exist, yet I can still see myself aging, and it feels very real".
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: InnerEternity]
#26845755 - 07/26/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fantastic post, InnerWisdom. You’ve really grabbed my attention; someone I think I could converse with day after day after day 
I studied thermodynamics at university and became a systems engineer, focussing on fluidnflow and heat transfer. I’ve worked in the space industry, testing spacecraft thermal systems in thermal vacuum, and minimal pressure.
I do love my job.
But I wasn’t just talking about the heat transfer death of the universe. I was talking about the whole concept of entropy. And you captured it very well in the Wikipedia extracts.
I do believe time is as described very well in “Interstellar”, that time is the 4th dimension, and your whole life is along that dimension. In certain scenarios, psychedelics being one, you can perceive this 4th dimension.
It’s the whole entropy debate that doesn’t yet reconcile with theory. I’ve been mulling over this for decades......
Take care DJ Ed
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: DJ Ed]
#26846047 - 07/26/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Skip the tea and eat 3.5 grams after a two week or longer break from dosing.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: DJ Ed]
#26846111 - 07/26/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you! I wish I understood physics (and mathematics) as much as you do..
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: microbiome88]
#26846153 - 07/26/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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microbiome88 said: Geez OP, you've really copped it in the replies in this thread.
Sorry that this happened to you. I wouldn't wish anxiety verging on panic on my worst enemy.
Have a bit of a read about set and setting and have another go. Look forward to your report 
I second this! Good luck in your future endeavours, hope you don't let this put you off. Also agree about waiting some more time before you panic and take a benzo, what have you got to lose.....?
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Azure Essence]
#26846318 - 07/26/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Azure Essence said:
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LosTresOjos said: Normal situation.
Lay back with some music next time. No need to venture outside. You'll get a feel for things with experience. Just be brave but not stupid.
This user said in the other thread they have taken LSD every weekend since christmas. He's far past stupid at this point.
you seem like a rude dude too tho 
maybe eat more azure essence? or less idk
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: epilectric]
#26846928 - 07/26/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wasn't calling him stupid. He probably should have just stayed home since it was his first time. But it's a good lesson for the future.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26847226 - 07/27/20 06:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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for me at least with mushrooms i like to chill an relax an zone out while with acid i love to go out an do things. Thoe a walk in the woods on mushrooms is pretty amazing.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Mach z 800]
#26848583 - 07/27/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Personally I would never risk being in public on mushrooms. LSD? Absolutely. But with mushrooms I've always found it best to stay in a safe, secluded place where nobody will bother you.
Good luck, I hope it goes better next time!
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26848881 - 07/27/20 09:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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LosTresOjos said: I wasn't calling him stupid. He probably should have just stayed home since it was his first time. But it's a good lesson for the future.
I think the user is referring to me he's been mad at me ever since I proved him wrong in another thread.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Azure Essence]
#26850227 - 07/28/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Azure Essence said:
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LosTresOjos said: I wasn't calling him stupid. He probably should have just stayed home since it was his first time. But it's a good lesson for the future.
I think the user is referring to me he's been mad at me ever since I proved him wrong in another thread.
i'm not mad at all.. and how do you want to prove me wrong if you're not even a chemist? you just have an opinion and believe it to be true. just like me, but i'm actually more open to other opinions than you are
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: epilectric]
#26850735 - 07/28/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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My proof was from the worlds leading expert in LSD. You are simply wrong.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Azure Essence]
#26850865 - 07/28/20 10:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why you guy be acting like children?
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26850923 - 07/28/20 11:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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LosTresOjos said: Why you guy be acting like children?
I ignored that user anyways, I can't take him following me around and be wrong all the time
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Azure Essence]
#26851190 - 07/29/20 06:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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omg, so much aggression. chill down
i checked your posts, you do seem like a smart/likeable dude, i actually thought you might have a point even in this discussion but after reading your posts about 1p-lsd, i have no other option but to be certain that you do not have a lot of experience with lsd.
yes, david e. nichols is an absolute expert in the field, but you are obviously not. at all. peace anyway
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure *DELETED* [Re: Azure Essence]
#26851210 - 07/29/20 06:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26851216 - 07/29/20 06:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lazer, there is an old saying "LSD is like driving a rocket... Shrooms are like being strapped to a rocket" the point is.. lsd you can kind of control.. shrooms just own you and will do as they like.
I have had amazing days on them, and some of my worst days.. i don't touch shrooms unless i'm already in a good mood cause they will just amplify whatever is going on inside you and drag it out to the top and make you deal with it.
lately i have been doing acid+shrooms and it's been nice.. but pretty low doses, 2 tabs+2-3g..
P.S. if you can get fresh shrooms try them, i have never once had a bad time on fresh, but dry are like 50/50 good and bad.. Which probably doesn't make sense since it's the same chemical and such, probably placebo but i'll take it:)
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26851237 - 07/29/20 07:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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i also have had better experiences on fresh vs dry
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icetech said: Lazer, there is an old saying "LSD is like driving a rocket... Shrooms are like being strapped to a rocket" the point is.. lsd you can kind of control.. shrooms just own you and will do as they like.
I have had amazing days on them, and some of my worst days.. i don't touch shrooms unless i'm already in a good mood cause they will just amplify whatever is going on inside you and drag it out to the top and make you deal with it.
lately i have been doing acid+shrooms and it's been nice.. but pretty low doses, 2 tabs+2-3g..
P.S. if you can get fresh shrooms try them, i have never once had a bad time on fresh, but dry are like 50/50 good and bad.. Which probably doesn't make sense since it's the same chemical and such, probably placebo but i'll take it:)
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: epilectric]
#26851246 - 07/29/20 07:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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epilectric said: i also have had better experiences on fresh vs dry
Ahh.. i'm glad it's not just me for me dry put me in a lot darker space where fresh are just happiness.. once again it's probably just in my head. but it's there now
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26851279 - 07/29/20 07:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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fresh contains more psilocin, that could be the reason... by the way, i find that lemon tek tea (chop shrooms/soak in lemon juice/brew as tea) is more smoother and enjoyable in a way that fresh shrooms are.. maybe because you convert a lot of your psilocybin to psilocin via the ascorbin acid inside the lemon juice! 
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Ahh.. i'm glad it's not just me for me dry put me in a lot darker space where fresh are just happiness.. once again it's probably just in my head. but it's there now 
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: epilectric]
#26851303 - 07/29/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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epilectric said: fresh contains more psilocin, that could be the reason... by the way, i find that lemon tek tea (chop shrooms/soak in lemon juice/brew as tea) is more smoother and enjoyable in a way that fresh shrooms are.. maybe because you convert a lot of your psilocybin to psilocin via the ascorbin acid inside the lemon juice! 
Ahh! at least there is some science behind it and it's not just me I haven't tried using lemon before.. will grab some before the weekend thanks.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LazerBrain]
#26851458 - 07/29/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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epilectric said: omg, so much aggression. chill down
i checked your posts, you do seem like a smart/likeable dude, i actually thought you might have a point even in this discussion but after reading your posts about 1p-lsd, i have no other option but to be certain that you do not have a lot of experience with lsd.
yes, david e. nichols is an absolute expert in the field, but you are obviously not. at all. peace anyway
And I never ever claimed to be. You're the one acting like an expert when you can barely speak english and you act like your opinion has more weight than David Nichols on the subject. All I did was quote him, you were the one saying he was wrong.
You're kind of derailing this thread here, stop following me around with this anger.
Edited by Azure Essence (07/29/20 09:58 AM)
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26851612 - 07/29/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just so both of you know: either one of you could stop. That would be then end of it.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26851620 - 07/29/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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LosTresOjos said: Just so both of you know: either one of you could stop. That would be then end of it.
Seems to be a lot of hatred around here lately
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26851627 - 07/29/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I take full responsibility for engaging with someone who should have been ignored, I just hate to see misinformation spread around here like it's fact. People come here for information and I would hate for them to be mislead.
I honestly thought the conversation was over in the other thread, but I've ignored them for my own sanity and the sake of the forums.
Edited by Azure Essence (07/29/20 11:37 AM)
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Azure Essence] 1
#26851645 - 07/29/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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AE, i read back and am curious about something.. and this is in no way starting an argument, i am honestly just wondering..
He did lsd every weekend for a few months, why does this make him stupid?
The reason i ask is that i have done 200-400ug every saturday since October of 2007... not a single issue and it hasn't messed with my mind or life at all.
I actually find people that drink all the time to be much worse but that's just opinion.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech] 1
#26851659 - 07/29/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's a starling amount of LSD that no one really needs to take. I feel our viewpoints are fundamentally different, however, and we won't really reach a conclusion here.
I was probably being harsh, but that seems like stupid behaviour to me. I agree about people drinking too much, and I myself quit drinking years ago.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Azure Essence] 1
#26851662 - 07/29/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Azure Essence said: That's a starling amount of LSD that no one really needs to take. I feel our viewpoints are fundamentally different, however, and we won't really reach a conclusion here.
I was probably being harsh, but that seems like stupid behaviour to me. I agree about people drinking too much, and I myself quit drinking years ago.
Well.. just FYI, i did it so much to prove that it isn't harmful. Before i ever touched it i read everything i could about the dangers and found that there are pretty much none.
I also have a friend i talk to daily that knows how much i do and watches for any issues in the way i act or my brain works.. So.. i'm at like 143 trips in the last 2.5 years or so (i missed maybe 4 due to having other shit to do) And no bad effects
That being said, everyone is different I would still rather do 140+ trips on lsd than get drunk once... fuck that poison.
Have a great day!
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26851673 - 07/29/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree there's virtually no harm and if that's how you choose to spend your time, more power to you.
You as well, I'm glad we can both see each other's viewpoints and have an amicable discussion about it. Cheers.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Azure Essence]
#26851686 - 07/29/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26851759 - 07/29/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol good.A good hug, hiss, and good 'ol fucking.
I hate it when my daddys fight.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Azure Essence]
#26852086 - 07/29/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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And I never ever claimed to be. You're the one acting like an expert when you can barely speak english and you act like your opinion has more weight than David Nichols on the subject. All I did was quote him, you were the one saying he was wrong.
You're kind of derailing this thread here, stop following me around with this anger.
i was never angry at all. i'm not fighting or anything, just discussing here. that's what forums are here for and sometimes threads lose their thread and the OPs question was more or less answered so that's no tragedy either ..
the david nichols quote doesn't have anything to do with my experience. i'm neither doubting it, nor does it answer my question. people are even talking about lsd crystals taking up energies of their creator or even their distributors. i'm not saying that shit is true but then again it might be? maybe you don't believe in that because it doesn't fit with western mainstream science? all i can say is that i really don't know anything for sure and would be surprised if you do, given the limitedness of all our minds in this infinite universe ..
and sorry if my english isn't perfect, it's not my native language...
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26852117 - 07/29/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Azure Essence said: That's a starling amount of LSD that no one really needs to take. I feel our viewpoints are fundamentally different, however, and we won't really reach a conclusion here.
I was probably being harsh, but that seems like stupid behaviour to me. I agree about people drinking too much, and I myself quit drinking years ago.
Well.. just FYI, i did it so much to prove that it isn't harmful. Before i ever touched it i read everything i could about the dangers and found that there are pretty much none.
I also have a friend i talk to daily that knows how much i do and watches for any issues in the way i act or my brain works.. So.. i'm at like 143 trips in the last 2.5 years or so (i missed maybe 4 due to having other shit to do) And no bad effects
That being said, everyone is different I would still rather do 140+ trips on lsd than get drunk once... fuck that poison.
Have a great day!
awesome! i also quit drinking completely in october 2017. alcohol and nicotine are in the same category as benzos, meth and crack for me.
one of my best friends takes acid 1-2x a week since 15 years, with a 3 year break inbetween. so all in all it's been 12 years of more than weekly dosing. he's fine but also very mentally stable to begin with. he said he does kinda crave it psychologically but prefers it to alcohol too, so... 🌈
that friend once took 3 100ug 1p-lsd blotters while we were walking the woods and he didn't get anywhere near where one 140ug lsd blotter that he had at that time would take him... he didn't expect this, before the intake he also believed that 1p- amounts to the same experience as -25. but his experience changed his opinion
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: epilectric]
#26852336 - 07/29/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have done both back to back and can't tell a different.. the problem is, the lab that's making the current 1p under-doses a little bit..not a lot but a bit..
I wish SI was still making 1p.. their shit was awesome but it is what it is..
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26852533 - 07/29/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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icetech said: I have done both back to back and can't tell a different.. the problem is, the lab that's making the current 1p under-doses a little bit..not a lot but a bit..
I wish SI was still making 1p.. their shit was awesome but it is what it is..
yes, that and the extra 1-propionyl group causes a later onset which might also reduce the subjective effects to a degree in certain individuals..
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26852597 - 07/29/20 08:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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icetech said: I have done both back to back and can't tell a different.. the problem is, the lab that's making the current 1p under-doses a little bit..not a lot but a bit..
I wish SI was still making 1p.. their shit was awesome but it is what it is..
1P and LSD are identical in expected effect to me as well.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Azure Essence]
#26852999 - 07/30/20 05:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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icetech said: I have done both back to back and can't tell a different.. the problem is, the lab that's making the current 1p under-doses a little bit..not a lot but a bit..
I wish SI was still making 1p.. their shit was awesome but it is what it is..
1P and LSD are identical in expected effect to me as well.
Thats cause once it's in the body it turns into straight LSD.. people saying it isn't the same are just wanting that to be true. The onset is a little longer is all.. same reason it takes longer to pass an ehrlich test.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26853268 - 07/30/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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icetech said: I have done both back to back and can't tell a different.. the problem is, the lab that's making the current 1p under-doses a little bit..not a lot but a bit..
I wish SI was still making 1p.. their shit was awesome but it is what it is..
1P and LSD are identical in expected effect to me as well.
Thats cause once it's in the body it turns into straight LSD.. people saying it isn't the same are just wanting that to be true. The onset is a little longer is all.. same reason it takes longer to pass an ehrlich test.
Yeah exactly. Onset is delayed only slightly, but then it's full on true LSD. Makes me think when people claim they're different that they don't have much experience to realize the variability of effects from LSD
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Azure Essence]
#26853272 - 07/30/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah exactly. Onset is delayed only slightly, but then it's full on true LSD. Makes me think when people claim they're different that they don't have much experience to realize the variability of effects from LSD
I tend to see it as you said.. some people don't have much experience.. OR they go into it expecting it to be different so they don't enjoy it or let it flow like it should..
BUT... that being said.. let them say what they want.. i will just enjoy
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: icetech]
#26853971 - 07/30/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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i never tried 1p but that's because i prefer liquid to blotter. it's easier to dose and comes on quicker, i like to start low and redose later, with blotters that can get tedious..
but yea, it must be pretty much the same thing. given that i still believe in different batches having slightly different characteristics, it really doesn't matter if it's 1p- or some -25 batch.
imho, set and setting make for about 90% of difference in trips. and the other 10% are batch related... don't even have to be impurities, just differences in the synthesis. idk, it's just my experience, i'm not claiming anything more than that
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: epilectric]
#26854028 - 07/30/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds like you might be at least hinting towards more.
I haven't been a part of this multi-thread brawl but this is still a crazy notion to me.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26854033 - 07/30/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are you guys discussing the vibes of people during and after synthesis?
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26854057 - 07/30/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: epilectric]
#26854089 - 07/30/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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When I take mushrooms I usually need to be inside until after I peak, as the body load gets rough and I need to lie down for an hour or two at the start.
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26854122 - 07/30/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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LosTresOjos said: Sounds like you might be at least hinting towards more.
I haven't been a part of this multi-thread brawl but this is still a crazy notion to me.
LOL
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Re: First mushroom trip report: failure [Re: Nimpo]
#26854123 - 07/30/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nimpo said: When I take mushrooms I usually need to be inside until after I peak, as the body load gets rough and I need to lie down for an hour or two at the start.
The ramp up to peak can often be very chaotic, but then I kind of blast through it and feel great
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