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Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet
#26845034 - 07/25/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was having a hard time finding a print of LM from a reputable source, so I just ordered a small grow bag that came pre-colonized. Figured I’d be able to get something onto agar from it, at the very least. I also followed their instructions to see what growing is like before I ramp up to bigger bags. Here’s progress after 1 week of FAE:

Look okay? Not sure if it’s clear, but I’ve got an X in the face of the bag, roughly 3” diagonal slices. Instructions were to do that and then soak it face down in water overnight. They also provided a “humidity tent” which was a plastic bag with 1/4” holes. I opted to use an empty monotub set up for cubes instead. I mist and fan at least twice daily, keeping humidity over 90%.
Any advice or comments are welcome and appreciated.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26845484 - 07/26/20 03:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks good as far as I can see, although I'm not sure why it wouldn't be fruiting after a week, it really should start almost immediately after colonized. But it may be, I just can't see.
It's too hard to see from the pic but it looks like there's a lot of airspace in that bag, just keep an eye on that to see if fruits are filling it up, you may have to help the fruit find it's way out.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Forrester]
#26845933 - 07/26/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks Fo. I think there was a fruit starting to form on one of the sides. Was a small, hard-ish mass. I did my best to get the bag more tightly wrapped around, get the air to a minimum. Will see how it goes.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26846413 - 07/26/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Plus look for a good culture, easier to find and get good fruits from. Prints are only used for illegal species, or for making new cultures.
Also don't mist the lionsmane directly. Rather have a bit dryer air then wet fruit with lionsmane.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: DutchMyco]
#26846973 - 07/26/20 11:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just can't get my mane into T2 petri dishes. I know they're thin, but it seems that it's not growing at all. First plate is 2 months old and it's super white, so you can see mycelium. Maybe is slower?
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: DutchMyco]
#26847322 - 07/27/20 08:05 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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DutchMyco said: Plus look for a good culture, easier to find and get good fruits from. Prints are only used for illegal species, or for making new cultures.
Also don't mist the lionsmane directly. Rather have a bit dryer air then wet fruit with lionsmane.
Oh I didn’t know that about cultures. Thanks for the knowledge.
I do not mist it directly, just a bit around the walls of the tub to keep humidity up.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26850358 - 07/28/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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3 days later...

I think that’s healthy growth forming where the bag is open, but it’s my first rodeo so I wouldn’t be shocked if I’m wrong about that.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26851059 - 07/29/20 02:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah it's looking good!
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Forrester]
#26858658 - 08/02/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Normal for it to be coral looking at this point? I know the “teeth” don’t form well without good FAE, but I m not sure if I should be looking for them just yet.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26858932 - 08/02/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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No the teeth won't grow till it's mature, that's just a pin - coral look usually means it isn't getting enough airflow.
Just looked back, so you're still growing this inside a monotub?
Looks like it needs more air!
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Forrester]
#26859448 - 08/02/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am, yeah. I thought it needs the humidity above 90%, and without the tub it drops way below that. Am I way off?
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26860991 - 08/03/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eh, it does need humidity, but it needs air too. Monotub isn't enough air for most edible species.
You could try taking the stuffing out of the holes, but I don't know if that will be enough. It might though.
Depending on climate, you might be able to get away with open air fruiting too, so that's the other option.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Forrester]
#26861109 - 08/03/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It doesn’t have any poly or tape on the holes. I flipped the lid for now to get some more FAE and I’ll post another pic in a couple days, see if that’s enough. The humidity is around 40% now (70% right after misting the walls, then drops over a few hours), hopefully that’s not too low to cause problems.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26861143 - 08/03/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh, and I’m in Virginia, USA. A/C keeps indoor temperature between 70-75 but cuts humidity a bit. Outdoor temperature is usually too high to even consider this time of year.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26861206 - 08/03/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dunno, I've left lion's mane blocks outside in the shade in the heat of summer here (90's) and found some pretty decent fruits.
But yeah see how it goes the way you got it for a bit it may be fine!
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Forrester]
#26861265 - 08/03/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Forrester said: I dunno, I've left lion's mane blocks outside in the shade in the heat of summer here (90's) and found some pretty decent fruits.
But yeah see how it goes the way you got it for a bit it may be fine!
Oh wow. It may be good for me to have them outdoors then. Humidity is definitely higher (usually 70-80% I believe). Perhaps on days where it’s in the 80s at least.
EDIT: I took a small shaving and put it to agar a few days ago. Hopefully I’ll have a bunch of bags ready soon and I can try a few different methods and locations, see what works best for me.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26863001 - 08/04/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey man, looks good. If you plan on using an old monotub for gourmets you should consider cutting a hole in the lid and putting a usb fan on the top to keep that fresh air flowing. For 20$ (and I really do mean 20$) you can get a great usb fan for computers AND a power outlet timer. 10$ each roughly. I can send you the link to each one I use if youre interested. Its super easy to setup and keeps the airflow going for gourmets so you dont have to fan 6x a day. Dont even need a drill just a screwdriver and a knife. Ive got an auto mister too but that was 70$. You can still get a good mane grow misting yourself but youve gotta get more air in there. I made the same mistake with goldens 🙂✌️
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26863034 - 08/04/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Phrontist said: Oh, and I’m in Virginia, USA. A/C keeps indoor temperature between 70-75 but cuts humidity a bit. Outdoor temperature is usually too high to even consider this time of year.
Build yourself a Martha from a cheap green plastic greenhouse at Home Depot or something. Set up a pond fogger or any kind of humidifier you can get your hands on, you can fruit a number of blocks properly in there and leave the plastic tote for cubes.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: sendmehummus]
#26863037 - 08/04/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26863218 - 08/04/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anything similar would work, this was the one that I ran:
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#26863236 - 08/04/20 06:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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So, do you poke holes in the sides to allow FAE, like a fruiting chamber? And does the fogger/humidifier create enough air movement, or is a fan still needed?
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26863245 - 08/04/20 06:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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No holes other than the ones for your humidifier. The squirrel cage fan on my diy humidifier supplied enough FAE when it was pushing in the mist from the ultrasonic fogger. Depends on your situation, hook up a humidifier and see if you need more FAE, if so then add a small fan to either suck air or blow air in on a cycle timer.
It's a balancing act between maintaining humidity and fresh air. I had a hygrometer that brought my tent up to 99% and then fell to around 75% before it would kick back on. I ran it in my finished basement at temps around 55ish for blue, kings, and shiitake.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26863259 - 08/04/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Awesome, I appreciate the knowledge everyone. As a bonus, I’ll finally be able to grow pans once I get this set up!
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26867268 - 08/06/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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So, I set the tub lid off of the tub by about half an inch, then placed a fan on top of the lid. I’ve got it on a timer, on for one hour, off for two. The larger of the fruits is different now (for the better?), more beige than white and less of the coral look. The two smaller ones have either stayed the same or gotten more coral-like. Thoughts?
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26868193 - 08/07/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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They look right for this stage. You can definitely open air fruit lions if you only slit the bag. If you had opened the whole bag they'd be toast, but if you must the fruit and bag around the hole they dont need any special humidity consideration.
I did one next to the sink in the kitchen and it ended up great.
Throw it under a bush outside for flush #2!
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Still figuring out how often to mist and what schedule to keep the fan on, but some teeth have started forming on one spot and it’s so damn cool!

Got a Martha and humidifier ordered, along with a few computer fans which I will install in the lower area of the plastic cover for exhaust. Hopefully it’s enough.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26872538 - 08/09/20 11:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you have not enough humidity there.
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#26872787 - 08/10/20 06:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I for sure do not. My current setup is insufficient, and I can either provide enough FAE or enough humidity, but can’t maintain both at the same time. About a week more of dealing with this before my Martha parts arrive.
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#26875425 - 08/11/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The browning is a bit concerning to me. I’m not sure what else I can do at this point. I’ve got it in a tub with the lid half open and a fan on top, blowing air away. I’m also misting inside the tub (not directly on the fruit) every 3 hours.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26875448 - 08/11/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd just eat it now. It's a bit dry but should be good to eat 
Or tincture it up!
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Forrester]
#26875498 - 08/11/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay, I was wondering if it was good to pluck at this point. Wife has been itching to try it anyway!
I’ve also got some beautiful mycelium going on agar now, so even if this doesn’t produce anymore fruit, I should be good for the future.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26875553 - 08/11/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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LM on the left.
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#26879557 - 08/14/20 04:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good job on your first fruitsling and that looks like a nice culture. I'd advise you transfer that twice very quickly, LM is wildly fast on agar but super hard to see without magnification.
Since it's so fast you can transfer it quickly to get a very clean plate or slant without waiting for anything nasty to bloom.
For what it's worth, if you can get a culture of H. Coralloides, they grow really well outside where you are versus H. Erinaceous which is more of a commercial variety.
Different structure, same flavor and overall nutrition profile.
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Oh, very cool. I will definitely look into that. Thank you for sharing the knowledge!
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26893291 - 08/22/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Second flush seems to be enjoying the Martha.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26901130 - 08/26/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Y’all think the fur will fill out more, or is this pretty much done its thing?
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Phrontist]
#26901551 - 08/27/20 02:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it's looking for air, the teeth will hang downward when it's teeth, so you can probably watch it a little longer.
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Re: Mane of the Lion - My First Gourmet [Re: Forrester]
#26901630 - 08/27/20 05:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ah okay. I’ll get the exhaust fan going again to boost FAE. Thanks Fo.
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