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Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane
    #26844684 - 07/25/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I started two syringes of these varieties on rye and have a couple of questions.  The Reishi started right up and quickly colonized all the jars, but the mycelium is real thin and whispy like, it is everywhere in the jar though. Should I spawn that to my bulk hardwood fuel pellets (made into sawdust under field capacity) now or wait?  My next question is about the Lion's mane, those jars are super slow, does this species take a while to colonize?  My grain is good, none of my jars made this batch have contaminated on the 3 varieties going, so it's not that. And all of the other varieties are going crazy... Anyhow, thanks for the view and any wisdom the community can provide.


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26844695 - 07/25/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

This post is useless without pictures. The colonized jar is the Reishi the one with just the barest hint of activity on the top is the Lion's mane inoculated a day later.



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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26844723 - 07/25/20 02:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

100%, that and pulling off a successful grow :wink:


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26844807 - 07/25/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Lion's Mane is SUPER whispy so it might be a lot further along than you can see. My experience is that it sort of moves at a normal pace, then goes REALLY fast after you shake it at 30%. Just be patient and it should take off if your LC was clean.


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26845010 - 07/25/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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This post is useless without pictures. The colonized jar is the Reishi the one with just the barest hint of activity on the top is the Lion's mane inoculated a day later.






Lion's mane on the left?  Look closer my friend, that jar is fully colonized as well.

Lion's mane is VERY fast, just quite thin.  Both those jars are ready to spawn :thumbup:

(and don't wait too much longer, the reishi will be hard to break the grains apart, and the LM will start fruiting in the jar if you wait too long)


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26845103 - 07/25/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ok! I'll mix up my fuel pellets tomorrow! Thanks!


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26845148 - 07/25/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

One last question, I wasn't planning on doing anything special with the substrate, just pasteurized wood pellets. I did pick up that you wanted them well under field capacity.  Anything I should look out for or do?  The info doesn't seem as plentiful as the info for cubes.  I planned on slit bags for the Lion's Mane and a tub for the Reishi antlers.


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26845480 - 07/26/20 03:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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One last question, I wasn't planning on doing anything special with the substrate, just pasteurized wood pellets. I did pick up that you wanted them well under field capacity.  Anything I should look out for or do?  The info doesn't seem as plentiful as the info for cubes.  I planned on slit bags for the Lion's Mane and a tub for the Reishi antlers.




That's the easiest method I've found, just follow Lipa's bucket-tek.  I don't have the link to it right now but it's easy to find.

Boiling water in a measured amount over a measured amount of fuel pellets.  Let cool and mix in spawn.  Anything specific you're looking for?


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: Forrester]
    #26845993 - 07/26/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Nah, just covering bases, the tek you mentioned is exactly what I planned on doing.  Thanks for the confirmation I'm on the right track.


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26848475 - 07/27/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

One additional question.  When should slits be cut in the Lion's Mane bags? I was going to wait till I saw obvious colonization.


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26849795 - 07/28/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Reishi wasting no time.



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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26849961 - 07/28/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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One additional question.  When should slits be cut in the Lion's Mane bags? I was going to wait till I saw obvious colonization.




Yeah I'd wait till it's fully colonized, about a week after spawning (sometimes it's hard to see).

If you don't make it in time, that's fine, you can also wait till you see fruits forming and cut holes in the bag around them.


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26862700 - 08/04/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Reishi one week later.  The Lion's Mane is just starting to get going in its bags.



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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26862738 - 08/04/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I had the same "issue" with my goldens awhile back. I thought the mycelium looked too wispy compared the king mycelium. But although the outside looks wispy the inside of those grains is likely densely packed with mycelium. The golden grain that I spawned to bulk did wonderfully and it looked very similar when I transferred to my bags. Hope this insight helps :smile:


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: sendmehummus]
    #26862760 - 08/04/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I had really started to wonder about the Lion's mane, but I got white patches on all three bags.  It was really fine in the jars.  One weird thing is I got a grain from one of the jars sitting on some agar since I inoculated the bags, the grain looks fuzzy, but it's not going anywhere near the agar.  All the other grain from different strains I've put on agar have colonized well.  There was tons of condensation in the Reishi tub so I opened it up a bit.


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26862786 - 08/04/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Don't worry about condensation in reishi tubs, it's better to be over-moist than dry when you're wanting them to pin


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: Forrester]
    #26862803 - 08/04/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ok cool. Thanks for the tip :thumbup:


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26871496 - 08/09/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

OK, question about Lion's mane.  I got my bags in a Martha that has been really good at keeping a high humidity. I don't have a sealer so my bags were gathered at the top and double folded and zip-tied. I've cut Xs in the bags where the block was starting to fruit and they have begun to poke through.  Now, I also have lots of fruiting on top of the block in the teepee shaped space on top of the bag.  Can you top the bag? I mean I already cut a bunch of X's in it. Thanks!


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26871677 - 08/09/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You could cut it open at the teepee and let it fruit out there as well, but it'll just take energy from the other fruits.  I'd probably just leave it and let it fill the space there if there's not much space left anyway, and leave more energy for the other fruits.


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: Forrester]
    #26871901 - 08/09/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Here is what my bags look like, I realize I probably should have cut less holes but it is what it is. I think next time I'll put more substrate in the bags to make them longer as well.  There is a lot of space above my substrate.  Maybe also a impulse sealer, my bags seem so untidy.





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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26871992 - 08/09/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Just cut a hole in the top of that mess and squish out all the air you can so it can't fruit in there. 

You don't need a sealer, just roll the bags over all neatly and use masking tape, it works fine too :thumbup:


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: Forrester]
    #26884964 - 08/17/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

So what is the best way to continuously grow Lion's Mane, can you do a bag to bag transfer like grain to grain?  And if you are going to cut it up, dehydrate, and follow the Double Decoction instructions, should I just grow them out as far as they'll grow? I mean past where you would have harvested for culinary uses?


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26885985 - 08/18/20 02:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yes you can G2G or whatever works best for you.  And yeah you can let them grow a little overdue as well, just not too far because you'll be getting a lot of spores.  You can let the teeth grow pretty long though since it doesn't matter.


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: Forrester]
    #26890401 - 08/20/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Not the best looking, but not the worst, I'm putting the fans on a separate timer, I think they need to run more often.  I upped the humidity a bit too for next time.  So I'm thinking of making a couple more bags of spawn and trying to do a direct transfer from one of these bags after I harvest.



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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: athos56]
    #26890445 - 08/20/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Wow that's a pretty good volume of fruit for the substrate size, nice!


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Re: Hi all, quick question about Reishi and Lion's mane [Re: Forrester]
    #26890458 - 08/20/20 05:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks!  That's good to hear.


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