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How do different cacti species vary in the types of effects? * 1
    #26843945 - 07/25/20 03:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Besides potency, is there a difference in the type of effects between different cacti?  This post says the following:
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From what I gather:

San Pedro - closer to an extended MDA/MDMA experience with qualities of psilocybin and LSD. More sedating and more mild overall trip. "Like being walked thru a garden with your grandfather for a talk about the world"

Bolivian Torch - More akin to Acid in terms of intensity. Less sedation, more visual, more potent than most San Pedros

Peruvian Torch - I havent heard nearly as much about this one other than some people regarding it as supreme to the other two. Often hear it regarded as the strongest



How much merit is there to these claims?  Has anyone else noticed the same or something similar?


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Re: How do different cacti species vary in the types of effects? [Re: mysticalshroom975]
    #26844604 - 07/25/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: How do different cacti species vary in the types of effects? [Re: Enkidu]
    #26844743 - 07/25/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I just acquired the 3 species listed above and would be very interested to know!


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Re: How do different cacti species vary in the types of effects? [Re: MindYourFree] * 1
    #26845667 - 07/26/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

There is a lot of variability with cactus.  Each clone has a slightly different feel to it.  And if you take the same clone over and over there will be variability to the experience as well.

But generally speaking...  Yes, Pachanoi tends to be more dreamy / gentle / healing compared to Bridgesii which is more intense and visual and classically psychedelic.  For me Scopulicola has been somewhere in between Pach and Bridge, generally retaining the character of Pachanoi, but with a greater degree of intensity and visuals.  I'm not very experienced with Peruvianus.

But the big caveat is that if you go up in dose high enough then Pachanoi can become quite intense and visual and psychedelic as well.  There are just a lot of variables involved that make it hard to predict exactly how a cactus trip will turn out.


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Re: How do different cacti species vary in the types of effects? [Re: Grey Fox]
    #26846263 - 07/26/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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There is a lot of variability with cactus.  Each clone has a slightly different feel to it.  And if you take the same clone over and over there will be variability to the experience as well.

But generally speaking...  Yes, Pachanoi tends to be more dreamy / gentle / healing compared to Bridgesii which is more intense and visual and classically psychedelic.  For me Scopulicola has been somewhere in between Pach and Bridge, generally retaining the character of Pachanoi, but with a greater degree of intensity and visuals.  I'm not very experienced with Peruvianus.

But the big caveat is that if you go up in dose high enough then Pachanoi can become quite intense and visual and psychedelic as well.  There are just a lot of variables involved that make it hard to predict exactly how a cactus trip will turn out.




Exactly my thoughts. I dont know about Bolivian Torch (never seen it), but Im sure it was different effects than San Pedro and Peruvian Torches. As a general rule, different species of the same genus will have different effects. This applies to all psychedelic plants and fungi in my experience.


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Re: How do different cacti species vary in the types of effects? [Re: Grey Fox]
    #26846499 - 07/26/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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There is a lot of variability with cactus.  Each clone has a slightly different feel to it.  And if you take the same clone over and over there will be variability to the experience as well.

But generally speaking...  Yes, Pachanoi tends to be more dreamy / gentle / healing compared to Bridgesii which is more intense and visual and classically psychedelic.  For me Scopulicola has been somewhere in between Pach and Bridge, generally retaining the character of Pachanoi, but with a greater degree of intensity and visuals.  I'm not very experienced with Peruvianus.

But the big caveat is that if you go up in dose high enough then Pachanoi can become quite intense and visual and psychedelic as well.  There are just a lot of variables involved that make it hard to predict exactly how a cactus trip will turn out.


Do you have any experience with T. Taquimbalensis and/or Atacamensis X Pachanoi?  I ask because I have a connection to get those seeds too. 

I also saw from a video by the portland psychedelic society that there are subtle differenced between cacti with different number of ribs.  Do you think there's any merrit to this?  They start talking about it at 29:36.


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Re: How do different cacti species vary in the types of effects? [Re: mysticalshroom975]
    #26847683 - 07/27/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I dont know anything about Taquimbalensis or about that cross.

Dont pay too much attention to rib count.  These cacti add and drop ribs all the time as they grow.  Different sections of the same column often have different number of ribs.  Bridgesii is the strongest Tricho, and it is the most likely to have 4 ribs, so that might have something to do with the legend of 4 ribbed San Pedros being the strongest.  IMO getting a fat cutting from a large cactus is a lot more important than the number of ribs.  Big, old cactus plants are the strongest.


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Re: How do different cacti species vary in the types of effects? [Re: Grey Fox]
    #26847784 - 07/27/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm going to invest some t terscheckii on my next day off, I have a fist sized chunk which fell out of my 7 foot cactus, I will probably cut a little bit larger piece. Not much bigger but a little.

Bridgesii is usually a bit more visual it contains betacarbolines whereas the other two listed do not.

I have often heard and seen that Peruvian torch is the weakest of the 3


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