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Reishi grow question 1
#26842376 - 07/24/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys,
I'm doing a couple Reishi monotubs and on my oldest one it seems like the fruits are getting dark and hard at the tip and I was wondering if that means they stopped growing. If so should I just pull them before they mold, because on of them had a little spot of what looked like cobweb on the tip that I wiped away. Any help would be greatly appreciated

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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Us.Two] 1
#26842541 - 07/24/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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What did you use as substrate? I have only see reishi on bags.
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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: 0ptiquest] 1
#26842706 - 07/24/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The spawn is a popcorn, coffee, honey and nutrional yeast that I make and the bulk is a mix of 20% vermiculite, 30% oak saw dust and 50% coir. The spawn colonizes in about 6-7 days in pint jars so that's fine but the fruiting is proving difficult, but maybe I'm just impatient
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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Us.Two] 1
#26842800 - 07/24/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Us.Two said: I'm doing a couple Reishi monotubs and on my oldest one it seems like the fruits are getting dark and hard at the tip and I was wondering if that means they stopped growing. If so should I just pull them before they mold, because on of them had a little spot of what looked like cobweb on the tip that I wiped away. Any help would be greatly appreciated
If they are getting dark and starting to varnish over, they are aborting - stopping growth.
For reishi usually it's when it's too dry, or when the mushroom has exhausted the nutrition of the substrate. Those to me look like they had a ways more to grow, so I'd say probably dry.
At that stage though I don't see any varnish, so they're not done for yet - they could still recover, try to increase moisture. You can mist reishi fruits all you want, spray doesn't hurt 'em.
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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Forrester] 1
#26844125 - 07/25/20 07:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks man. I chopped this grow down because I saw the entire tip of one of them covered in a white fuzz, but luckily I have 2 more tubs of equal size and a large tub still going. It was probably because of them being too dry and I thought adding verm as a casing about 3 weeks into fruiting would help but it definitely did not.
So now that that is a bust, does anything pop out to you about this big grow that might be a problem? Because this is my biggest fruit yet and I would really like to collect spores 

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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Us.Two] 1
#26844136 - 07/25/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Actually, now it looks like those may be pore surfaces on the big ends, they don't look like they're varnishing over at all. Let 'em grow you may get spores after all. 
You'll know if you do
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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Forrester] 1
#26844398 - 07/25/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would keep some standing water in there if possible. Once colonized mine sit in a inch or so of water, doesn't hurt a thing.
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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Quadman] 1
#26844576 - 07/25/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Agreed. Reishi sucks against mold but it eats bacteria for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Standing water has never been an issue for me either.
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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Quadman] 1
#26844854 - 07/25/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just poured off about 40ml of beige water and there's a strange smell coming off of the bin that's definitely not a mycelium smell. I misted it well and layed the bin on its side to see what happens lol. Thanks guys, I really appreciate the help and guidance.
Here's one of my other tubs of 50/50 sawdust/coir and my special popcorn spawn mix. I've been experimenting with medium sized hard wood sticks from the hiking trails that are here in NH and cutting them into pieces that fit into the mason jars, boiling them in a water/coffee/honey mix for about an hour and then nocking them up with some Reishi LC. After they're fully covered in mycelium I put them in the middle of my bulk about half covered and they seem to love it. Here are a couple of the sticks and the bulk that I have going with two of the sticks in it. Do you guys think I should I lay it on its side or just keep it flat?


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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Us.Two] 1
#26844946 - 07/25/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow, cool idea with the sticks! Interested to see how that works out.
Nice fruits starting there in that tub! I always liked laying them on the sides so conks start to form right away, but it's your call it'll grow either way
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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Forrester] 1
#26846387 - 07/26/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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For now it seems like it prefers the sides and the sticks when starting to pin but I'll keep you posted. Do you know why mine always pin on the edges? And should I be putting them in bags before I put them in the tub?
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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Us.Two] 1
#26846417 - 07/26/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Us.Two said: For now it seems like it prefers the sides and the sticks when starting to pin but I'll keep you posted. Do you know why mine always pin on the edges? And should I be putting them in bags before I put them in the tub?
I never did figure out why it sometimes climbs all up the sides, and sometimes fruits in the middle where you want. It has a mind of it's own. 
Bags before tub? Not sure what you mean. Put 'em in whatever you want they'll fruit in anything!
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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Forrester] 1
#26849845 - 07/28/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol right on. I see some people putting them in plastic bags in the tubs and I was thinking the side growth may be due in part to the fact that there is a more stable edge to grow on without the bags.
Side note, I made a small casing layer of the wood pellets you recommended on my new tub and the mycelium LOVE it! I've never seen them grow like that, they're so fuzzy!
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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Forrester] 1
#26862985 - 08/04/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey man, so the fruits ended up getting a fuzzy mold on them again so I just harvested what I could; none of the 4 fruits were very big at all and just seemed to stall. When I removed the cake it seemed really dry, and I only used a 20qt. tub with 2 qts of spawn. Could it be that I'm not using enough bulk sub and that's causing them to run out of water and abort early?
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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Us.Two] 1
#26863043 - 08/04/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would think it would be the water content of your substrate, rather than the amount of substrate, but I doubt that's why they're aborting.
Usually it's because of too little moisture in the air.
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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Forrester] 1
#26863110 - 08/04/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, so I'm going to start using plastic bags inside of the tubs because every one of my grows has done the same thing and I don't think I'm goofing too bad with them. Also I'm using popcorn, could that not be providing enough nutrients?
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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Us.Two] 1
#26863150 - 08/04/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you add a cup of coffee to the popcorn while its soaking overnight? Adds alot of nitrogen, def helps.
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Or you can just use more spawn, but I wouldn't if you're having any issues with mold. Reishi does not usually need that high of nitrogen to produce pretty well.
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I use coffee and honey during the soak/boil and before PCing I add a teaspoon of nutritional yeast to the jars which mycelium absolutely love. I think I'm probably opening the tub too much and my holes are goofy so I'm going to follow a tek this time to the T
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Re: Reishi grow question [Re: Us.Two] 1
#26863865 - 08/05/20 06:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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All of that is entirely unnecessary, do whatever makes you happy but I'd caution against so many additives in your grains. Grains are absolutely all of the nutrients necessary for fast and healthy mycelial growth. Try just grains without coffee and yeast because you're going to run into problems, looks like you're already there.
Do you have any unicorn bags? Also, coir absolutely sucks balls for anything gourmet/medicinal. Stop worrying about nutrients, you're not growing plants.
Edit* keep in mind that reishi is Saprophytic which means that it is a wood decomposer, it's evolved to derive it's energy from lignin in wood, which isn't very high in nitrogen. The addition of too much supplementation will cause issues with poor growth and the increased likelihood of competitive molds, possibly bacteria depending on what side of operator error you fall on.
Edited by Stipe-n Cap (08/05/20 06:49 AM)
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