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Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs
    #26839234 - 07/22/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ive seen people get better results with no manure and straight coir/verm

Its my first grow and just want to get the best results.

Coir/verm/gypsum
Or add manure?


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: Forevergreen] * 1
    #26839318 - 07/22/20 09:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

stick with coir. youll be fine do manure later for fun. do coir now for shrooms.


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: mushboy]
    #26839325 - 07/22/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

unless youre using these jars..?

thats gonna be a shit show. id work on my agar game if i was you.


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: mushboy]
    #26839460 - 07/22/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Well as you can see I am doing both. I can show you my jars. They are doing just fine. You seem pretty critical of everyone so all I can suggest is taking a seat and telling me "I told you so" afterwards, of i do fuck up. I get only a few responses and follow their advice, but im also im reading my jars in real life, not the pics. Those jars have recovered and not a single sign of contams. I even open a jar here and there to throw outside and everytime its pure mushroom smell. No sign of contams and I am doing agar.


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: Forevergreen] * 2
    #26839849 - 07/23/20 06:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Those jars are death it's not me being critical it's trying to save you wasted time. I dont want to tell you so. I want you to grow mushrooms.


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: mushboy]
    #26839889 - 07/23/20 07:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I agree, stick to coir for now. It’s way more forgiving. 

Unless like he said you’re not in a rush for shrooms then go for it. I’m just now doing the same experiment myself. I only ever used coir until I needed manure for pans, then figured I have it might as well try it out. It contaminates so much quicker though, I found that out right away.


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: mushboy]
    #26841614 - 07/23/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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mushboy said:
unless youre using these jars..?

thats gonna be a shit show. id work on my agar game if i was you.



I threw everything away. Starting over... Again...


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: Forevergreen] * 2
    #26841621 - 07/23/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Forevergreen said:
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mushboy said:
unless youre using these jars..?

thats gonna be a shit show. id work on my agar game if i was you.



I threw everything away. Starting over... Again...




It sucks less than cleaning a tub of mold. Trust me that shit gets old fast. Once is more than enough, after a couple dozen you get picky about how spawn should look.


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: mushboy]
    #26841883 - 07/24/20 01:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Pastywhyte said:
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Forevergreen said:
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mushboy said:
unless youre using these jars..?

thats gonna be a shit show. id work on my agar game if i was you.



I threw everything away. Starting over... Again...




It sucks less than cleaning a tub of mold. Trust me that shit gets old fast. Once is more than enough, after a couple dozen you get picky about how spawn should look.



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Pastywhyte said:
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Forevergreen said:
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mushboy said:
unless youre using these jars..?

thats gonna be a shit show. id work on my agar game if i was you.



I threw everything away. Starting over... Again...




It sucks less than cleaning a tub of mold. Trust me that shit gets old fast. Once is more than enough, after a couple dozen you get picky about how spawn should look.



Quote:

mushboy said:
Those jars are death it's not me being critical it's trying to save you wasted time. I dont want to tell you so. I want you to grow mushrooms.




Im just upset that no one said anything until I was excited. Fuck it..


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26841901 - 07/24/20 02:12 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It is funny how you just get people bashing on you with no explanation.. Thanks guys.. All my mushroom shit is outside in the dirt. No worries..


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: Forevergreen] * 3
    #26841904 - 07/24/20 02:14 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Well as you can see I am doing both. I can show you my jars. They are doing just fine. You seem pretty critical of everyone so all I can suggest is taking a seat and telling me "I told you so" afterwards, of i do fuck up. I get only a few responses and follow their advice, but im also im reading my jars in real life, not the pics. Those jars have recovered and not a single sign of contams. I even open a jar here and there to throw outside and everytime its pure mushroom smell. No sign of contams and I am doing agar.




You have 156 posts and you asked this TC with 20,000 for advice, and he gave you good advice, so you probably shouldn't suggest he take a seat or anything else. Don't burn your bridges.

Your response to him should have been "thank you".


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26841911 - 07/24/20 02:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

All good points from posts above ^^^. Concernig your original ? about manure -I wouldn't bother with it unless it was so abundant where I lived that it was always stuck on my boots. The only benefit of using manure in a grow is that it contains micro-organisms which are necessary to trigger fruiting in some species of mushrooms. Cubes don't need that.
There is more nutrients in a tub of grain than there is a tub of manure. The concept that manure grown Cubes are more potent than those grown on grain is a myth. Hope you have better luck with your next project -don't give up!

P.S. Just relax, we are all just talkin' here...


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26841949 - 07/24/20 03:17 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Forevergreen said:
Well as you can see I am doing both. I can show you my jars. They are doing just fine. You seem pretty critical of everyone so all I can suggest is taking a seat and telling me "I told you so" afterwards, of i do fuck up. I get only a few responses and follow their advice, but im also im reading my jars in real life, not the pics. Those jars have recovered and not a single sign of contams. I even open a jar here and there to throw outside and everytime its pure mushroom smell. No sign of contams and I am doing agar.




You have 156 posts and you asked this TC with 20,000 for advice, and he gave you good advice, so you probably shouldn't suggest he take a seat or anything else. Don't burn your bridges.

Your response to him should have been "thank you".




Enjoy your guys little club. It doesn't seem to be getting any bigger..


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26841955 - 07/24/20 03:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Okay cool, he has 2000000 posts. He doesnt offer any real advice or why I should start over. He acts like hes the cool kid on the mycelium playground. Just being a dick.


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: Forevergreen] * 3
    #26841959 - 07/24/20 03:45 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Enjoy your guys little club. It doesn't seem to be getting any bigger..




You shouldn't get upset so easily dude. Like you are being rude for nothing. He told you those jars are "death", for us that means only one thing = contaminated.

You have to be able to differentiate between orders and advice. He advised you something because he has a lot of experience and bothered to go look in your post history and see what was up. If you don't like his advice then that's fine you are (hopefully) a grown adult. You're not paying money here bruv, people are willingly on their own time pitching in and helping the community. If you cant even be courteous then you shouldnt post in these forums. Just do your own thing. And hopefully you will succeed with your shrooms.


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: redhandmat]
    #26841967 - 07/24/20 04:05 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

LEts all be nice now :youthemandawg:


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: redhandmat]
    #26841969 - 07/24/20 04:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Forevergreen said:
Enjoy your guys little club. It doesn't seem to be getting any bigger..




You shouldn't get upset so easily dude. Like you are being rude for nothing. He told you those jars are "death", for us that means only one thing = contaminated.

You have to be able to differentiate between orders and advice. He advised you something because he has a lot of experience and bothered to go look in your post history and see what was up. If you don't like his advice then that's fine you are (hopefully) a grown adult. You're not paying money here bruv, people are willingly on their own time pitching in and helping the community. If you cant even be courteous then you shouldnt post in these forums. Just do your own thing. And hopefully you will succeed with your shrooms.




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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26845481 - 07/26/20 03:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Let me tell you one thing. I too wanted some "extra nutrition" and "boost" from manure when I started and ignored veteran advice to use only coir and so manure only gave me problems and wasted my time. Lots of metabolites, weird bacterial contamination after first flushes, slower colonisation. Since I moved to pure coir I have no problems, tubs colonise very fast and yield shitloads. So pure coir it is.

Another thing. If you think you are smarter than people with years of experience then why even ask? Hope mushrooms you grow will help you with your ego.


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: KuroNeko]
    #26846236 - 07/26/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

My first attempt with manure got contambruh before the first flush, according to the handy contam guide on this forum my pasteurization temp was off (it says this is common with manure, as too high temp can kill the beneficials). My thermometer was in the water rather than in the substrate, next time will be better. :cool:


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Re: Substrate. Coir manure vs no manure. Monotubs [Re: bernardfraun]
    #26846614 - 07/26/20 07:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah cool ill fuck off.
Once again thanks for just shitting on my grow and not offering a single piece of advice. Maybe mushrooms will help your ego too ya fuckin prick. Y'all just keep attacking me. So what im supposed to get on knees? Go fuck yourselves. I hope yall find some DMT and kill the stupid egos yall have on here. Ffs.

Its like a bunch of fat pigs making fun of a skinny pig for not being fat enough.

Hey. Fuck you mushboy and all your little fan bois. Fuck this shit


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