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Vahn421
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: koods] 1
#26841813 - 07/23/20 11:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: One of these days I'd love to see you challenge my ideas in a thoughtful way. I'll respect you a lot more when you actually start doing it.
I’m not trying to earn your respect. You are deeply intellectually dishonest. Just like your buddy.
That's why I prefer my side of this debate and why I stand where I stand politically. (And who I stand with.) I think you have good intentions and you're just misled and have too big of an ego to see it.
I'd rather be on the side that sees their opposition as misled than on the side that sees their opposition as deliberately malicious when they are obviously not.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: koods]
#26841826 - 07/24/20 12:05 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: Where is the evidence that he considers Maxwell an enemy? She’s been accused of horrific crimes. He must have trashed her publicly somewhere, right?
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OHHHH so now you’re sure what his intent was when he says he wishes someone well. Give me a break.
I don’t really think it helps you’re argument if you’re saying wishing a sick Supreme Court Justice well is the same as wishing a notorious pedophile well.
By 'notorious pedophile' are you talking about the same person who you say has been 'accused' of horrific crimes?
Just out of interest as I haven't been following the case all that much but what is the actual hard evidence that this woman is guilty?
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koods
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: wolf8312]
#26841830 - 07/24/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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There are dozens of accusers and witnesses
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: koods] 1
#26841852 - 07/24/20 12:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: There are dozens of accusers and witnesses
Who haven't yet been to court? If this alleged conspiracy really does permeate the elite strata of western society with all the power that implies, would it be so inconceivable that they would be able to rustle up a bunch of witnesses? I mean who knows...
As shown by the Nayirah testimony (etc) they are certainly able to rustle up witnesses/actors whenever they wish to invade foreign countries and need some bawling witnesses to sell it to the public.
Plenty of celebrities in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal were also accused by multiple witnesses only for their cases to collapse in court. Many suspected that the reason such a high number of high profile celebrities were accused was to draw public attention away from the real criminals and the cover-up itself. Again who knows but why rush to judgment?
The main point I am making is that as she hasn't yet been tried and convicted in a court of law she is not yet guilty nor a notorious pedophile. She may well be innocent.
A society that convicts people by media (especially our media) before they have even got to court is not a healthy or just one.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: wolf8312]
#26841895 - 07/24/20 01:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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A whole bunch of them are suing Epstein’s estate. Dozens have been interviewed by the police. There’s no lack of victims willing to testify against maxwell.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: koods]
#26841909 - 07/24/20 02:21 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: A whole bunch of them are suing Epstein’s estate. Dozens have been interviewed by the police. There’s no lack of victims willing to testify against maxwell.
Well as they are suing his estate it could be argued they have a financial interest in making sure she/he's found guilty.
Still innocent until proven guilty, although I'm not saying she isn't guilty.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: wolf8312]
#26852512 - 07/29/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I see he's wearing the extra orange tinted face paint today.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: vinsue] 1
#26852755 - 07/29/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I see he's wearing the extra orange tinted face paint today.
I'm fascinated how so many people love to embrace hatred of TRUMP
(I now feel OK to rip on people's weight and skin tone - you mother fucking FAT ASS!)
And at the same they time claim to oppose hatred! How stupid can people be?
If Trump gets elected again, you can thank the BLM idiots. And Joe.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 1
#26853217 - 07/30/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm going to assume that was a rhetorical "fat ass"
this time.
If you can't control yourself, you're welcome to go back to bothering DividedQuantum over in philosophy.
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Vahn421
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: ballsalsa]
#26853223 - 07/30/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: I'm going to assume that was a rhetorical "fat ass"
this time.
If you can't control yourself, you're welcome to go back to bothering DividedQuantum over in philosophy.
Wow, look at that. You CAN discern obvious context when it is obvious!
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26853235 - 07/30/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I always prefer to give fair warning
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: ballsalsa]
#26853409 - 07/30/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: koods] 1
#26853415 - 07/30/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why would you vote for Trump when you have a savvy candidate like Joe Biden as an option?
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Vahn421
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Billy Ray] 1
#26853416 - 07/30/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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People have REASONS for voting for Trump. If you go to a rally and ask his supporters why, most people don't just shout, "CUZ MAGA, BITCH!" Most of them have specific reasons they can give you.
Here's my personal reason: Because virtually all of Hollywood hates him and virtually all of the media hates him and and pretty much all the politicians I hate hate him.
For that reason alone I prefer him. I love watching these stupid fuckers collectively squirm.
Why will people vote for a senile pedophile? I mean Biden? Cuz... "Not Trump." That's ALL 95% of them got. And then they yell at Trump supporters and call them racist sexists who support a clown. They have NO case for Biden. They just shout "NOT Trump!" This is not how you win an election. Sorry. And that's ESPECIALLY not how you'll ever convince Trump supporters to change sides.
Rather than reasons for "not-Trump," people on the left need to give some ACTUAL ideas to make a pro-Biden case. The problem is, there aren't any.
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Enlil
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: wolf8312]
#26853418 - 07/30/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: A whole bunch of them are suing Epstein’s estate. Dozens have been interviewed by the police. There’s no lack of victims willing to testify against maxwell.
Well as they are suing his estate it could be argued they have a financial interest in making sure she/he's found guilty.
Still innocent until proven guilty, although I'm not saying she isn't guilty.
You're actually wrong about this, though. If she's found guilty, that is of no use to people suing his estate. He can't be found guilty at this point since he's dead as fuck.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Billy Ray]
#26853424 - 07/30/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Billy Ray said: Why would you vote for Trump when you have a savvy candidate like Joe Biden as an option?
I agree. I'm not going to vote for Biden, but if I had to choose, I'd literally vote for anyone with a pulse over Trump. Luckily, I can vote for Suavecito again this year.
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Vahn421
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Enlil] 1
#26853426 - 07/30/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you all ever wonder how it came to this? I mean, Trump vs. Biden in 2020...
...is this seriously the best America can do? What the hell happened, ya know?
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Vahn421] 3
#26853436 - 07/30/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Trump is what happened. Trump made Biden into a winner. Nobody else in America could have made Biden into a winner.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Vahn421]
#26853439 - 07/30/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's not the best we can do. No one truly qualified wants the job at this point. The game has been so fucked up for so long that anyone smart enough to turn this thing around doesn't want to subject him/herself to the torture. Every president knows he/she is only there for a short time and that any real solution is going to mean telling the American people some tough truths that will only mean the President will be voted out next election. Instead, each president just finds a way to kick the can down the road far enough so that he's out of office before the problem becomes too big.
And when it reaches that point where it can't be kicked, the shit sandwiches start getting handed out, and whoever's in office will be to blame.
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