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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Vahn421]
#26840502 - 07/23/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well what ELSE do you mean by this? "Paw, ask yourself this: How many jobs have you lost during Trump's 3.5 years? How many did you lose during Obama's 8 years"
Why is this relevant? Are we blaming the president for job losses? The vast majority of americans don't lose their jobs because of the POTUS, so you're asserted position blames the president for things we should be blaming on ourselves most of the time.
First, I wasn't talking to you, so maybe you should try to get context before you post stupid shit. Here is some context from this very thread:
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Spicemaster said: Emotional reasoning should tell you that the Democratic way just keeps on ripping off the working man I am a working man man and was a democrat for years All you did was type a shitload of shit and not prove your point Gimme something i can chew on
Since Paw is a working man, I wanted him to "chew on" how his working life has changed depending on who was President.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Vahn421]
#26840505 - 07/23/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: Koods implied Trump is on Maxwell's side which inadvertently concludes that his comments were helping her. Trump has done nothing else so far for Maxwell, so the criteria for "helping her" according to him, would have to be the words that came out of his mouth 3 days ago.
My counter argument is that the comments did NOT help her, but were neutral and dismissive.
So to answer your question, Koods said it.
Koods said nothing of the sort. Now I have you pegged as a liar. Good to know in this forum
In koods very next post, koods said "'I wish her well' is not a neutral statement", proving that Vahn421 was exactly correct about what koods implied.
Now I have YOU pegged as a... (insert proper term here), and Vahn421 as someone who gets people's meanings.
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Spicemaster said: Serious questions only I am not a political expert and i will not fight with you Change my mind by giving me a real and accurate reason to not vote Republican
Paw, ask yourself this: How many jobs have you lost during Trump's 3.5 years? How many did you lose during Obama's 8 years?
Blaming a president on one's own capacity for work!? What??
Trump has lost 32 million jobs during his presidency. Filings for unemployment are rising again. The rest of the world that got hit by the virus in March has nearly recovered. Things are getting back to normal. We’re going back down into the hole. Trump is a total failure and a loser and now the whole country is a loser because people like you support this completely incompetent moron. Good job.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: koods] 1
#26840509 - 07/23/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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One, Job percentages and what not are always accredited to the administration in charge at the time of said job percentages.
Two, enlil's question is valid since paw works in oil and gas, if I'm not mistaken, which relies of international relations.
@fal- koods said nothing about helping ghislaine. You are a full blown liar and trump apologist and a hypocrite.
Apparently it's ok for you and people you like to infer, paraphrase, and insinuate; But when others you disagree with do it, you lable them "make believers."
You are woefully transparent and I'm pretty sure you have 0 tegrity
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: natedawgnow]
#26840518 - 07/23/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: One, Job percentages and what not are always accredited to the administration in charge at the time of said job percentages.
And this particular President has taken credit for it.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Enlil]
#26840524 - 07/23/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Trump certainly could have prevented a lot of the job loss by being more proactive, but the situation we are in now is completely his fault and the fault of his cult
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: koods]
#26840525 - 07/23/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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On what planet is “I wish her well” a neutral statement?
It's neutral in the sense that it's not proof that Trump is going to help her in any way, shape or form.
In fact, most people that say, "Wish XXXX well" aren't getting involved at ALL.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Enlil]
#26840531 - 07/23/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well what ELSE do you mean by this? "Paw, ask yourself this: How many jobs have you lost during Trump's 3.5 years? How many did you lose during Obama's 8 years"
Why is this relevant? Are we blaming the president for job losses? The vast majority of americans don't lose their jobs because of the POTUS, so you're asserted position blames the president for things we should be blaming on ourselves most of the time.
First, I wasn't talking to you, so maybe you should try to get context before you post stupid shit. Here is some context from this very thread:
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Spicemaster said: Emotional reasoning should tell you that the Democratic way just keeps on ripping off the working man I am a working man man and was a democrat for years All you did was type a shitload of shit and not prove your point Gimme something i can chew on
Since Paw is a working man, I wanted him to "chew on" how his working life has changed depending on who was President.
LOL that only validates my point. You want him to blame presidents for his ability to find work, when that's on him, not the POTUS.
How dis-empowering and pathetic is it to ask a man to blame another single man he has never met for his failures?
My comment stands, man.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Vahn421]
#26840532 - 07/23/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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On what planet is “I wish her well” a neutral statement?
It's neutral in the sense that it's not proof that Trump is going to help her in any way, shape or form.
In fact, most people that say, "Wish XXXX well" aren't getting involved at ALL.
Does your back hurt from turning yourself into a pretzel?
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: koods]
#26840538 - 07/23/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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On what planet is “I wish her well” a neutral statement?
It's neutral in the sense that it's not proof that Trump is going to help her in any way, shape or form.
In fact, most people that say, "Wish XXXX well" aren't getting involved at ALL.
Does your back hurt from turning yourself into a pretzel?
I know rigid people like yourself can't bend even an inch without screaming, but I'm quite malleable and flexible.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Vahn421]
#26840539 - 07/23/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would argue you lack any bone structure whatsoever
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26840545 - 07/23/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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LOL that only validates my point. You want him to blame presidents for his ability to find work,
Another lie from you. I said nothing about how many jobs he's found. I asked how many he's lost. Why are you so fucking dishonest all the time?
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Enlil] 1
#26840556 - 07/23/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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LOL that only validates my point. You want him to blame presidents for his ability to find work,
Another lie from you. I said nothing about how many jobs he's found. I asked how many he's lost. Why are you so fucking dishonest all the time?
This is you being dishonest, mr lawyer. Don't try to catch me on my phrasing. Is this really the god damned best you can do now is try to slander me and make me out to be a liar?
Ok, ok, fine. To "have work." Fuckin' better? If you lose a job, you have to find another one. I wasn't even emphasizing the point of finding work. I was emphasizing the point of blaming the president for something you have more control over of in your personal life than he does.
Your decision to paint me in the worst light possible every time you can catch me on me on the smallest thing like using one word non-literally is really telling of your lack of partisanship and objectivity.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Vahn421]
#26840565 - 07/23/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol, your projections skills are second to none. This isn't about you and never was. I was talking to Paw, someone I've known on this site for years. Someone who specifically pointed to the way in which political parties has affected him as a working man. You're just talking all kinds of bullshit about things of which you know nothing.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Enlil] 1
#26840580 - 07/23/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Lol, your projections skills are second to none. This isn't about you and never was. I was talking to Paw, someone I've known on this site for years. Someone who specifically pointed to the way in which political parties has affected him as a working man. You're just talking all kinds of bullshit about things of which you know nothing.
I came in here asking a question and you couldn't leave it at that. You had to go and bring up my favorite subject. So here we are.
Try again, and next time, don't mention my character and watch what magically happens.
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Vahn421]
#26840594 - 07/23/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah...just asking questions is the mantra of your leader. Should we inject bleach? Should Russia investigate Biden/Hillary/DNC? Should we maybe kill all the jews?
What???? I'm just asking questions!
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Enlil]
#26840703 - 07/23/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: The only two people in the country on Maxwell’s side are Donald Trump and Alan Dershowitz.
"I wish her well" is not a neutral statement
Koods didn't say anything about helping her. You're just pretending again.
Ok, but then you're just being uber-literal again. Natedawgnow, please take note it's Enlil, not me, who does this.
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Please quote where koods said trump was helping ghislaine.
If you can't, you are a liar, or at the very least disingenuous and intellectually dishonest.
Saying it isnt a neutral statement is no where near the same as saying trump is helping her, but I'm pretty sure you know that
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: Enlil]
#26840715 - 07/23/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Or worded another way "How many jobs have you lost during coronavirus? How many did you lose before coronavirus?
How is that an equivalent at all? Coronavirus has been less than a year so far. Are you putting words in my mouth again?
Let me help:

Are you asking about the time when unemployment was super low, or about the time after coronavirus hit?
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Re: I am voting Trump change my mind.... [Re: koods]
#26840723 - 07/23/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Or worded another way "How many jobs have you lost during coronavirus? How many did you lose before coronavirus?
Falcon is the only person who’s become a trump fan after trump has completely screwed up the entire country.
For about the 20th time, I'm not a Trump fan, I just don't support make believe about Trump. Read my signature, and try going at least two posts without make believing.
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Yeah let’s just forget the last part of the graph.
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