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Totodile386
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Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs?
#26839365 - 07/22/20 09:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Have you ever thought about all the lost lives of even innocent microbes and germs that happens when you spray alcohol and other disinfectants?
Sure, infectious agents are killed, but innocent and beneficial microbes die in that, too.
We don't know -- there are such things as "good germs", which, for instance, can serve a positive purpose by colonizing surfaces so harmful bacteria can't.
Oh, and there's also the chance that all the dust mites that die when you disinfect can leave behind micro-carcasses that feed decaying bacteria. o_0
We're supposed to respect all life forms, so we should have reverence for even the least unto the greatest.
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Bsdgaou

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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: Totodile386]
#26839518 - 07/22/20 11:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sh*t, right?
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ManifoldPrime
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: Bsdgaou]
#26839703 - 07/23/20 01:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am trying to cultivate psilocybe cubensis. Trich and bacteria can fuck right off.
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: ManifoldPrime]
#26839784 - 07/23/20 04:18 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am not concerned and I don't think I will be. I sterilise my work area and that's about it. I'm sure the rest of the house is plenty filthy for the little bastards to thrive.
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ichugwindex
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: Zakkery]
#26839791 - 07/23/20 04:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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A thing that decided to come into my home that I didn't invite inside has crossed a line. All that shit can stay outside. Once you enter that front door you have entered the space of mankind and deserve to die if I didn't invite you in. Bugs and trich are on my shitlist if they are indoors.
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: Zakkery]
#26839820 - 07/23/20 05:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Zakkery said: I am not concerned and I don't think I will be. I sterilise my work area and that's about it. I'm sure the rest of the house is plenty filthy for the little bastards to thrive.
You can't sterilize your work space, but you can keep it clean. I wipe mine with a wet wash cloth to make sure its visually clean, anything more than that is a waste of time.
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Totodile386
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: ichugwindex]
#26839894 - 07/23/20 07:16 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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ichugwindex said: A thing that decided to come into my home that I didn't invite inside has crossed a line. All that shit can stay outside. Once you enter that front door you have entered the space of mankind and deserve to die if I didn't invite you in. Bugs and trich are on my shitlist if they are indoors.
Okay only human's "property" doesn't belong to human, but to the land. The land giveth, and the land taketh away. This is part of why society needs to wake up and be more ecologically conscious.
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Zakkery



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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: Tight Lunchbox]
#26840060 - 07/23/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Tight Lunchbox said:
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Zakkery said: I am not concerned and I don't think I will be. I sterilise my work area and that's about it. I'm sure the rest of the house is plenty filthy for the little bastards to thrive.
You can't sterilize your work space, but you can keep it clean. I wipe mine with a wet wash cloth to make sure its visually clean, anything more than that is a waste of time.
Yeh for sure. I used sterilise when I should of used sanitise. Showing my greenness there.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: Zakkery] 2
#26840269 - 07/23/20 10:30 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Marxcelium
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: Totodile386] 2
#26840354 - 07/23/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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But Toto, I only kill uncircumcised philistine microbes. It is the Lord's will that they be purged from the lands given to his chosen organism, the mushie mycelium.
Edited by Marxcelium (07/23/20 11:03 AM)
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: Marxcelium] 1
#26840611 - 07/23/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, I actually did think about it. And I don't have a care in the world. In fact, if I ever will please kill me with disinfectant.
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The Fresh Prints
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: creator] 1
#26840676 - 07/23/20 01:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Have you actually grown anything toto?
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Totodile386
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: The Fresh Prints]
#26840762 - 07/23/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I found an answer!
Look:
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+kills+mold+better+bleach+or+vinegar&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS864US864&oq=what+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l3j69i57j0j69i60j69i61l2.911j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Think about it, what's the worst thing about growing mushrooms? Mold!
Vinegar kills mold and mold spores, and it also kills some other pathogens.
I mean, bacteria can infect mushrooms, sometimes, but it's mold that'll screw you over.
The price of I.P.A. is taking a hike, and it might be a sign from God.
I tell you what, I'll be spraying organic white vinegar around my mushrooms. They have cheap-ass organic white vinegar at Whole Foods and some Walmarts.
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Genghis Chron said: Have you actually grown anything toto?
I've done P.F. jars before with no problems.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: Totodile386] 2
#26840769 - 07/23/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bacteria is a mold vector, where bacterial contamination gets a foothold, mold soon follows. Course that’s only common knowledge to people who actually grow and contribute things of value to the community.
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ManifoldPrime
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26840920 - 07/23/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Please dont torture mycelium with vinegar. As for the rest of your stuff being cleaned, you know that most of us probably dont even use alcohol or bleach, just soapy water right? Especially with the panic buying of Iso. I dont need contams to be dead, just somewhere else. soap does that.
This thread is not really conducive to growing mushrooms so I am going to hide it. OP, please read this post, especially point number 4. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22861379
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Totodile386
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: ManifoldPrime]
#26840954 - 07/23/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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ManifoldPrime said: Please dont torture mycelium with vinegar. As for the rest of your stuff being cleaned, you know that most of us probably dont even use alcohol or bleach, just soapy water right? Especially with the panic buying of Iso. I dont need contams to be dead, just somewhere else. soap does that.
This thread is not really conducive to growing mushrooms so I am going to hide it. OP, please read this post, especially point number 4. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22861379
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: ManifoldPrime] 2
#26841320 - 07/23/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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ManifoldPrime said: Please dont torture mycelium with vinegar. As for the rest of your stuff being cleaned, you know that most of us probably dont even use alcohol or bleach, just soapy water right? Especially with the panic buying of Iso. I dont need contams to be dead, just somewhere else. soap does that.
This thread is not really conducive to growing mushrooms so I am going to hide it. OP, please read this post, especially point number 4. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22861379
She couldn’t read your link because she has me on ignore. Now she can’t read it because she just got a perma.
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26841568 - 07/23/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Let's extend this logic further shall we?
Do you like going for hikes? You know that there's hundreds of worms and other insect life in every cubic meter of soil right? Not to mention the poor plants who's roots your crushing. You need to stop going outside if you truly care about the Earth.
Like to garden? Too bad there's a risk of cutting a worm in half with your shovel. Can't do that, especially farming. Tilling the soil of a single field murders dozens of innocent gophers and field mice. Just so selfish humans can eat???
Do you know that your immune system victimizes BILLIONS of innocent viruses and bacteria PER WEEK? All in the name of DEFENSE?? Insane and unnecessary. We humans need to abandon the senseless slaughter of the noble single celled organisms and remember how to fully embrace Gaia's beauty. This is why I have given myself AIDS, so I can do my part in dismantling this system of destruction!
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: Totodile386] 1
#26841669 - 07/23/20 10:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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No.
But then again, I'm not a filthy hippie.
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Re: Ever Think Twice About Spraying Disinfectant Like Crazy, Killing All Germs? [Re: Srirachi]
#26841764 - 07/23/20 11:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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My gf and I are like this. We don’t kill bugs or anything. She’s a vegetarian going pretty much vegan, and I’m going vegetarian really soon. I’ve never really thought about killing microbes and stuff but I know what you’re saying, from a loving standpoint and a cultivator standpoint. It’s nice to see others feel the same way.
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