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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26838899 - 07/22/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Qanon counts right?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26838900 - 07/22/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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To be far leftist is to support anfita. To be antifa is to be far leftist.



I think this might be the stupidest thing you've posted so far, and you've posted some stupid shit on this site.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil]
    #26838910 - 07/22/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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To be far leftist is to support anfita. To be antifa is to be far leftist.



I think this might be the stupidest thing you've posted so far, and you've posted some stupid shit on this site.




It's not stupid. Its matter-of-fact.

I didn't say democrat. I didn't say leftist. I said far leftist. That's all antifa really consists of. If you already forgot, I learned a fuckton directly from the horse's mouth.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26838912 - 07/22/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

And just to make sure mr lawyer isn't twisting my words. I DID NOT say all far leftists were antifa, (I said they support them) though I DID say all antifa was far leftist.

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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26838922 - 07/22/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Which horse?  Mr. Ed?
Are you referring to your ex-girlfriend's sister again?
What was her title within antifa?  what responsibilities go along with said title?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26838925 - 07/22/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You couldn't be more wrong.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26838949 - 07/22/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Which horse?  Mr. Ed?
Are you referring to your ex-girlfriend's sister again?
What was her title within antifa?  what responsibilities go along with said title?




(s)he was a coordinator for events. That's all I learned regarding that particular subject.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil]
    #26838952 - 07/22/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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You couldn't be more wrong.




Which premise is less true? That antifa is made up or far leftists or that far leftists support antifa?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26838962 - 07/22/20 06:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Probably the latter, but both are fiction.  People across the political spectrum are anti-fascism.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil]
    #26838964 - 07/22/20 06:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, yeah, you're going to grill me if one in twenty members of antifa is a moderate leftist rather than a far leftist. I understand, Mr Laywer, but this isn't a court of law so I don't have to be so literal.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26838979 - 07/22/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, it isn't.  And that's a good thing, too, because if it were, you'd be nonsuited already for lack of evidence.  You've yet to offer a shred of evidence for anything you've said.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil]
    #26838980 - 07/22/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You have so much more confidence in the justice and method of the judicial branch than you do the executive branch. I guess it's because they pay you so well.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26838990 - 07/22/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Nah, we just haven't gotten into that discussion yet.  I've had judges completely ignore the law and do whatever the fuck they wanted.  Courts are definitely more fair than cops, but not nearly fair enough.

You do seem to have confused cops for the executive branch, though.  I don't know why that is, but it's misguided. 


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil]
    #26839002 - 07/22/20 06:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Fair enough, I more than halfway agree.

As for evidence, if you were to poll one million people and ask them "what side of the political spectrum do you think antifa is on?" And gave them 5 opinions ranging from far left to far right, I don't think it's rocket science what the general consensus is... because some things are so obvious they don't need evidence, and asking for evidence in the face of these things seems absurd. We've seen what they stand for and who their opponents are in the street. We know their political positions due to when they rally. These things kinda inadvertently narrow it down, man.

Just because it wouldn't hold up in a court of law doesn't mean it still isn't true. Not all evidence is straightforward. Sometimes it's a bunch of pieces you have to put together. Then you step back and look at the picture.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26839023 - 07/22/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You haven't offered anything, though.  You haven't supported any claims of yours.  Based on what you've offered, I don't know if Antifa even exists as an organization.  I don't know if they are violent.  I don't know if they're loud.  I don't know anything at all.  You presented one video without anything more than some dude claiming he infiltrated Antifa.  There's nothing in there to indicate it's Antifa nor to indicate anything other than self-defense classes. 

Seriously, dude.  You've given us nothing to work with.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #26839031 - 07/22/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah, it isn't.  And that's a good thing, too, because if it were, you'd be nonsuited already for lack of evidence.  You've yet to offer a shred of evidence for anything you've said.




The eternal struggle of Informed  vs. Opinionated. I'm always on the fence as to whether Vahn421 is trolling.

Vahn: I appreciate your willingness to have sometimes oppositional stances, but use empirical evidence if you want to prove a point. Anything else is you expressing your opinion and not debate. If the data doesn't exist accept that maybe you're wrong.

As for Antifa, political affiliation actually depends which circle of individuals involved. Some are Anarchist and a smaller amount are straight Marxist. Many are also moderates or unaffiliated that have strong anti-racism views. I guess you could say "far left" but authoritarian vs nonauthoritarian Left are very very different worldviews. A lot of Republicans and all Libertarians also share an anti-facism stance by default. Facism is oppositional to Liberty, Free Trade, Self Determination, Religion, and most of the Constitution.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Rapjack]
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26839051 - 07/22/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

looks like they're putting up another fence

is this an antifa?

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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26839054 - 07/22/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

That guy is way too black to be Antifa.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26839059 - 07/22/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

He doesn’t have proof antifa has killed anyone, but he’s sure they have. And you can’t prove he’s wrong. So he’s right. I think that’s the logic 🤷‍♂️


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