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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: Totodile386]
#26837741 - 07/22/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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you're annoying as shit
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: Marxcelium]
#26837743 - 07/22/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The grain spawn is what supplies nutrition. If you squirted a bunch of LC in a mono full of bulk sub you might get it to fully colonize, probably you’d have to load up your tub with dry coir and completely get it to field capacity with LC...which is a lot. Then if it did colonize you’d get a very small yield. I don’t know this for sure but I’ve got some experience growing and someone did do a test with just a jar of coir and a bit of LC recently, he got a few little mushrooms out of it but nothing to speak of compared to using even a bit of grain in there.
If you try inoculating it with spores they just won’t germinate.
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: AtmozFear]
#26837748 - 07/22/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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AtmozFear said: you're annoying as shit
I'm no holy-see, but maybe your outlook has part to do with it. Treat thy neighbor as yourself.
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26837754 - 07/22/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Roger Clemency said: The grain spawn is what supplies nutrition. If you squirted a bunch of LC in a mono full of bulk sub you might get it to fully colonize, probably you’d have to load up your tub with dry coir and completely get it to field capacity with LC...which is a lot. Then if it did colonize you’d get a very small yield. I don’t know this for sure but I’ve got some experience growing and someone did do a test with just a jar of coir and a bit of LC recently, he got a few little mushrooms out of it but nothing to speak of compared to using even a bit of grain in there.
If you try inoculating it with spores they just won’t germinate.
The straight-to-monotub substrate will be simple: just organic coco coir, organic sawdust, and organic rye flour in a ratio of something like 1:2:1, and cooked just before adding to monotub in a U.V. and I.P.A. sterilized space.
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26837760 - 07/22/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Roger Clemency said: someone did do a test with just a jar of coir and a bit of LC recently
you remember that? I think Mateah was following along with it intensely but can't remember whose thread it was.
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: AtmozFear]
#26837774 - 07/22/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you want to do allinone things you can try muda bottles.
I think a monotub is just too much surface and substrate, maybe you can make a tub of mudabottles? xd
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: 0ptiquest] 1
#26837780 - 07/22/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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kinda funny how he took the i smell a troll part out of my quote huh
dont get baited into it yall hes an idiot. just use ur time here to read shit worth reading
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: AtmozFear]
#26837782 - 07/22/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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It was Vladimir Putin in a face shield. Can’t remember the guys name on here but he’s a badass.
Totodile - sounds sketchy contamination wise with the rye flour but if you’re careful it may work. It’s just that there are much much easier ways to grow cubes but if you’re intent on skipping PC cycles? then give it a try. Talking about it will just bring you round in circles.
Lol jcm. They always know exactly what riles people up, a lot of these hit several major sticking points to make sure people will jump in like “wtf no NOOO” But I like to engage sometimes for future readers or on the off chance of seriousness.
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: Totodile386]
#26837783 - 07/22/20 09:20 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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RoscoeReturns said: You absolutely can inoculate a mono. Your results may not be what you are hoping to achieve. If you think it’s a better way to grow, please start a grow log and show us how it works. I know I’d love to follow along.
This.
Even if my brand new straight-to-monotub method (I'm gonna try enoki first time) flops in some way, it would mean it was not God's will for me to have it or for it to happen.
I have heard the people's arguments against straight-to-monotub already, and I'm not afraid, but faithfully optimistic.
That's like a doctor performing major heart surgery with non-sterilized tools in the middle of a nasty, moldy barn then the patient dying from massive infections and the doctor saying "well it wasn't in God's will for him to live." In reality, he just used the wrong tools that have been proven to work then blamed the shortcomings on God's will.
There's methods that have been proven to work over countless attempts that people are suggesting. If you search around you'll see that a syringe to straight monotub would more than likely contam the fuck out pretty quick at the least.
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: Gan]
#26837789 - 07/22/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would love to see this thread die because it really is pointless. Pointless that OP decided to even post, pointless that anyone decided to reply and that includes myself.. if OP wants to do this then why not just create a thread of you actually doing this. If you want to post nonsense and stir shit up and get people heated then stay out of the cultivation forums unless you're actually cultivating something more than a half ass idea.
I'm really not trying to be rude but it's really hard trying to sound nice when this is all so ridiculous.
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26837805 - 07/22/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Roger, yeah I was gonna say, that was c10's experiment. Can't find the original post now, though.
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: Marxcelium] 3
#26837853 - 07/22/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I love when people who understand next to nothing about the organism they are attempting to propagate then attempt to innovate. I myself have done many things that were not exactly “on tek.” But I had done years of actual study to allow me to pull off such outlandish projects.
You can’t sterilize a monotub unless you have access to very special equipment. At any rate you won’t be able to keep it sterile unless you have a fucking flowhood the size of a wall or a clean room. Sterile isn’t just wiping something down with chemicals. Spores are also most certainly not axenic and all syringes should be expected to have some CFU’s present.
To anyone who understands these things it’s all very clear why you can’t inoculate a monotub. The OP’s question reads like “do I need to jack up the car to change the tire? Can’t I just lift it up with one hand and change the tire with the other?”
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: Pastywhyte] 1
#26837869 - 07/22/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I love when people who understand next to nothing about the organism they are attempting to propagate then attempt to innovate. I myself have done many things that were not exactly “on tek.” But I had done years of actual study to allow me to pull off such outlandish projects.
You can’t sterilize a monotub unless you have access to very special equipment. At any rate you won’t be able to keep it sterile unless you have a fucking flowhood the size of a wall or a clean room. Sterile isn’t just wiping something down with chemicals. Spores are also most certainly not axenic and all syringes should be expected to have some CFU’s present.
To anyone who understands these things it’s all very clear why you can’t inoculate a monotub. The OP’s question reads like “do I need to jack up the car to change the tire? Can’t I just lift it up with one hand and change the tire with the other?”
dont u know pasty most young men today cant even change a tire 😂😂😂😂
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: jcm4620]
#26837872 - 07/22/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That’s pathetic.
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26837877 - 07/22/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: jcm4620]
#26837878 - 07/22/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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lol cant change a tire and cant tell time on a hand clock lol smh. my buds wife is a highschool teacher here and she said that they had to come in and change all the clocks to digital cuz not 1 kid could read a hand clock. i know this is off topic but seriously wtf so with the amount of education ppl get these days its no wonder he thinks this way
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26837884 - 07/22/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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My experience is that the rich substrate will attract endless contaminates and it will get stinky and weird colored. However, if you let the mycelium fill the tub, it makes a really good start to an outdoor grow if you have a suitable spot. The contaminates will get consumed by stuff in the soil, cover with verm and keep damp but not soaked.
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: Totodile386] 1
#26837890 - 07/22/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is some quality trolling in Jesus name amen
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: Gastronomicus]
#26837898 - 07/22/20 10:12 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe, just maybe if the spore solution has electrolytes in it. Hmmm.
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Re: I Want To Just Inject Straight To Monotub With Spore Solution/L.C.? [Re: Totodile386]
#26837949 - 07/22/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Totodile386 said:
What is this? David and Goliath?
"You come against me with mold spores and clubs, but I come to you in the Name of the LORD, Elohim Who-Suffices, the God of Israel.
This day the LORD will deliver you into my hands, and I'll strike you down and cut off your head. This very day I will give the carcasses of the infection army to the birds and the wild animals, and the whole world will know that there is a God in Israel.
All those gathered here will know that it is not by sword or spear that the LORD saves; for the battle is the LORD's, and One will give all of you into our hands."
Idiot fucking troll.
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