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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Northerner]
#26837182 - 07/21/20 09:56 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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wow if that were true too bad you couldnt do something simple to combat the spread
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: mushboy]
#26837365 - 07/22/20 12:18 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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i have the same countertops lol
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Gorlax]
#26837517 - 07/22/20 04:22 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Asante]
#26837526 - 07/22/20 04:37 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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no ones wearing masks and theyre all partying 
the federal government is the only one to blame
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Northerner] 3
#26837579 - 07/22/20 06:05 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wonder if Trump wins the election again if opponents will deliberately spread coronavirus as a revenge tactic on supporters. Hmmmm.
You do know that the red states are already deliberately spreading the virus with their "my freedumbs" bullshit, right? . . .
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: vinsue] 1
#26837613 - 07/22/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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how about USA vs corona? Not repuplicans vs democrats?
When nation unites there is little that can not be done. And it all starts on personal level. How you act with your fellow neighbor, people at wotk, the clerk at wal mart etc....
divide and conquer. One of the oldest tricks in the book of how to keep your slaves in order.
Your enemy is not left,right,hetero,gay,black,yellow etc.. Your enemy is slavemaster!
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: LeningradCowboy] 2
#26837621 - 07/22/20 07:04 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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My only enemy is father time. 
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: vinsue]
#26838237 - 07/22/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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DC is going hardcore on masks. You must wear one anytime you’re not at home except if you’re completely alone or exercising.

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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
#26838264 - 07/22/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: You must wear one anytime you’re not at home
So walking down a deserted road or driving a car now too?
Fuck me this country doesn't know its head from its asshole does it??
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#26838291 - 07/22/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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dc is a city
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#26838428 - 07/22/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Jokeshopbeard said:
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koods said: You must wear one anytime you’re not at home
So walking down a deserted road or driving a car now too?
Fuck me this country doesn't know its head from its asshole does it??
Come on JSB. At least quote the whole sentence: You must wear one anytime you’re not at home except if you’re completely alone or exercising
Personaly. I don't like feeling the breath off of someone as they run passed me on an otherwise deserted path. The onus, surely, is on them to keep the social distance, if needs be moving over onto the road or the grass verge to avoid passing you within the ascertained social distancing etiquette.
I have felt many times like shouuting after such cunts but they always seem to have earphones in. 
Before this pandemic I always had the song "I want to live forever" come to mind when these fukers passed me. Now it's more like, "I don't give a shit if I kill you".
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: deucedbi9]
#26838462 - 07/22/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cases have been at all time highs for over over a month now. Deaths are floating in the all time lows range still. Are you ready to wake up?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: budmanman] 2
#26838508 - 07/22/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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its almost like were not even looking at the same charts. give it another week or two
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: budmanman]
#26838519 - 07/22/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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budmanman said: Cases have been at all time highs for over over a month now. Deaths are floating in the all time lows range still. Are you ready to wake up?

Deaths are up almost 100% in the past two weeks what are you even talking about.
There were 1100+ deaths yesterday
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
#26838527 - 07/22/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
#26838566 - 07/22/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The bars around here are just asking people if they actually have one and selling them one for $1 if they don't just in case someone comes to check or narc then everyone has one and they're in the clear. Since you can't eat or drink with one on.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: MadMuncher]
#26838589 - 07/22/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Went to walmart today for the first time in a while. They were doing construction on the parking lot so everyone was funneled through the one entrance and exit. Aisles had arrows showing which way to walk but nobody really gave a fuck about em. Counted 6 people behind the counter at the pharmacy, they were all wearing masks either under their chin or with their nose sticking out. Seems like nobody at any level cares about this shit.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
#26838618 - 07/22/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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ive been seeing a lot of the same lately. its kind of frightening. totally different feeling out there than there was in march-april-may. summertime. i think its gonna have to be herd immunity before we see any kind of "normal" again. really hard to say what's going on in the rest of the country. one of my close family members nearby is sick and came back positive. that's the first person i know who has it. they won't even test the rest of their house unless they show symptoms. i will have it soon now too its just a matter of time.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: MadMuncher]
#26838671 - 07/22/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Trump is on TV right now blaming Mexico for the surge in cases
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: MadMuncher] 2
#26838739 - 07/22/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I’ve been researching a lot about covid since I have tons of down time. It is similar to a virus being researched in the Wuhan lab but they say COVID is 20-50 years more evolved. The virus was called RaTG13. I found a lot of articles contradicting each other which is not helpful. one article even says the pandemic has had a negative impact on the truthfulness of the studies. wtf? . This is why they say it is natural and not man made which is confusing because one paper says they are overestimating its evolution because they included silenced genes. I decided to look at original SARS and found the chinese view that the US made SARS to disproportionately hurt certain providences in China. Then I looked at the US health system vs China and we are just way more prepared and strangely more healthy. China air is trash as well has their lungs from smoking also poor people in China who get sick are essentially fucked. Which sounds like a nightmare imagine being in an overflooded dirty Chinese hospital they probably just kill you and blame covid.
I find it hard to believe that from 2004-2019 we are already seeing another form of SARS. evolution is a slow process and the mechanism to infect humans is being blamed on a chemical alteration of a protein?!. COViD-19 by itself either was altered to infect mammals and a bat got out and eaten or something happened. Something more sinister could be at play too. I just hope humanity isn’t that fucking stupid but we’ve seen worse.
The articles states It may be that the chemical cross-linking required to obtain the structure of bat virus S is responsible for all particles being in the closed conformation. My understanding is the closed confirmation gives it the ability to infect mammals. Chemical cross-linking can be done naturally and artificially!
The more research I do on RaTG13 and bats the more concerning this gets. It is not known how SARS-CoV-2 evolved to infect humans, but two mechanisms have been hypothesized: selection in an animal host before zoonotic transfer (possibly via an intermediate host), or natural selection in humans following direct zoonotic transmission from bats.
Why would natural selection favor an animal that can get infected with covid? I guess the old and already sick would die off leaving ones already able to fight infections safe and able to breed?! Its pretty clear all articles point to an intermediate host which could still be human or animal in origin.
An unknown etiology of acute respiratory disease in late December 2019 was linked to a Huanan seafood wholesale market in Wuhan, China, where over 100 wet animals were on sale before the outbreak.1-3 World Health Organization (WHO) initially named this strain, novel coronavirus 2019 (2019‐nCoV) on 12 January 2020 and officially named the disease as coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID‐19) on 11 February 2020.4 COVID‐19 symptoms are fever, cough, sore throat, fatigue, malaise, breathlessness and it may progress to pneumonia, acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), and multiorgan dysfunction.5 Up to 23 June 2020, COVID‐19 spread has been the highest in America, followed by Europe, Eastern Mediterranean, South‐East Asia, Africa, and Western Pacific and these figures are being updated daily and are expected to increase further.6 Consumption of wild animals or direct contact with intermediate host animals was suspected to be an initial mode of transmission. However, source transmission routes of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus‐2 (SARS‐CoV‐2) remain obscure.7, 8 The mystery of intermediate host finding will provide support to prevent further spread, to develop the targeted vaccine and antiviral drugs. The recent studies documents Rhinolophus affinis , bat‐CoV (RaTG13) and Manis javanica , Pangolin‐CoV were proximal to SARS‐CoV‐2.9-11 Here, we aimed to update the origin of SARS‐CoV‐2 by systematic phylogenetic classification and spike glycoprotein (S protein) amino acid sequences
Then the freakishly similarity between original SARS and whats going on now.
The SARS conspiracy theory began to emerge during the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) outbreak in China in the spring of 2003, when Sergei Kolesnikov,[1] a Russian scientist and a member of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, first publicized his claim that the SARS coronavirus is a synthesis of measles and mumps. According to Kolesnikov, this combination cannot be formed in the natural world and thus the SARS virus must have been produced under laboratory conditions. Another Russian scientist, Nikolai Filatov, head of Moscow's epidemiological services, had earlier commented that the SARS virus was probably man-made.[2]
However, independent labs concluded these claims to be premature since the SARS virus is a coronavirus,[3][4][5] whereas measles and mumps are paramyxoviruses.[6][7] The primary differences between a coronavirus and a paramyxovirus are in their structures and method of infection, thus making it implausible for a coronavirus to have been created from two paramyxoviruses.
The widespread reporting of claims by Kolesnokov and Filatov caused controversy in many Chinese internet discussion boards and chat rooms. Many Chinese believed that the SARS virus could be a biological weapon manufactured by the United States, which perceived China as a potential threat.[8] The failure to find the source of the SARS virus further convinced these people and many more that SARS was artificially synthesised and spread by some individuals and even governments. Circumstantial evidence suggests that the SARS virus crossed over to humans from Asian palm civets ("civet cats"), a type of animal that is often killed and eaten in Guangdong, where SARS was first discovered.[9][10]
Supporters of the conspiracy theory suggest that SARS caused the most serious harm in mainland China, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore, regions where most Chinese reside, while the United States, Europe and Japan were not affected as much. However, the highest mortality from SARS outside of China occurred in Canada where 43 died.[11][12] Conspiracists further point out that SARS has an average mortality rate of around 10% around the world, but no one died in the United States from SARS, despite the fact that there were 8 confirmed cases out of 27 probable cases (10% of 8 people is less than 1 person).[11][13][14] Regarding reasons why SARS patients in the United States experienced a relatively mild illness, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control has explained that anybody with fever and a respiratory symptom who had traveled to an affected area was included as a SARS patient in the U.S., even though many of these were found to have had other respiratory illnesses.[14][15]
In October 2003, Tong Zeng, a Chinese lawyer and a volunteer in a 1998 Chinese-American medical cooperation program, published a book[16] that again speculated that SARS could be a biological weapon developed by the United States against China. In the book, Tong disclosed that in the 1990s, many American research groups collected thousands of blood and DNA samples and specimens of mainland Chinese (including 5,000 DNA samples from twins) through numerous joint research projects carried out in China. These samples were then sent back to the United States for further research, and could be used in developing biological weapons targeting Chinese. These samples came from 22 provinces in China, all of which were hit by SARS in 2003. Only provinces like Yunnan, Guizhou, Hainan, Tibet, and Xinjiang were left out, and all these provinces suffered less severely during the SARS outbreak. The author suspects that Japan is also involved, as many Japanese factories in Guangdong in the 1990s made it compulsory for all workers to have blood tests in the factory annually, rather than asking workers to go to local hospitals for blood tests and a proper physical examination. However, Tong Zeng admits that these are only speculations, and he does not have any concrete proof from the study of the virus's genetic sequence.[17]
The two scientists named above expressed the possibility that the SARS virus was man-made.[18]
Coronaviruses similar to SARS have been found in bats in China, suggesting they may be their natural reservoir.[19]
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