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Snake venom for "stabilization"?
    #26837017 - 07/21/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I don't mean to start yet another snake venom thread, but I got wind of something that is completely new to me regarding the subject.

I was messaging with someone who knows breeders but is not that well versed on the subject himself. He was talking about snake venom being used to prevent a cross from reverting to one of the parents in later generations, or as he called it, to the 'stronger genetics'.

He also talks about putting the venom in the agar and then printing 2 strains on top of each other and growing that out, or that antibiotics work for that too... plus that RR talks about this all the time.

Supposedly those breeders have experience but this is a bit weird to me.

So i guess the idea is to more easily just grow the MS of a cross without just getting mostly the separate varieties sticking with themselves? And this is a lot more useful than doing di-mon crosses "manually".

As far as I know it can just be a lot of work to stabilize and to get recessive traits but I don't get the point of using something like venom.

Is it to be able to self or backcross with a dikaryon without needing a good monokaryon that holds your desired recessive traits?

I'm interested to know what sort of antibiotics are supposed to be able to do something similar as it could be a lot cheaper I guess... perhaps a specific dose of an antifungal?

In any case I would love to know what sort of a cross a simple di-mon mating does or does not allow you to make if you are fine without stabilizing and instead just opt for cloning from F1 and sticking with that? Ofc with multiple tries with multiple monokaryons.. Then you can't get recessive traits unless both parents happen to carry it (=quite a bit of luck)?


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Re: Snake venom for "stabilization"? [Re: Solipsis]
    #26837533 - 07/22/20 04:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

The people using the venom haven't researched and said the mechanism so no one knows. They barely have a theory about how it might be playing a role.


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Re: Snake venom for "stabilization"? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26837694 - 07/22/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

it definitely seems to be in its infancy


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