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Weenyburgers
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: greenladel]
#26979434 - 10/11/20 03:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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First haul of the year on Friday in North Norfolk! The constant rain over the last 4 weeks has had some benefit!!!
Question for you all. Would you go picking again today (2 days post). Concerned about overpicking and ruining the patch.
Cheers
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LuckyFourth
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: Rafferz]
#26979500 - 10/11/20 06:02 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thats insane, how far south??
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greenbeanmachine
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: Weenyburgers]
#26979506 - 10/11/20 06:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Went for a forage in Somerset this morning and hurrah they are finally out in numbers. Collected 22g wet in a little over 2 hours
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Rafferz
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: greenladel]
#26979623 - 10/11/20 08:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Letβs just say we like cream before jam on our scones down here π
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: Weenyburgers]
#26979695 - 10/11/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Weenyburgers said: ... Concerned about overpicking and ruining the patch
Whilst I am sure some people would disagree - to my mind the idea of over picking is a bit of a misnomer.
In the same way that picking all the apples of tree doesn't harm the tree - picking the fruiting bodies of fungus doesn't harm the mycelium.
There was actually a quite interesting study showing no difference in species richness or abundance of species between picked and unpicked sites...
https://www.conservationevidence.com/individual-study/230
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: fraggle]
#26979702 - 10/11/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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That kilo pic is so fucking epic. Its gave me the biggest hard on lol just gotta get my mrs to take advantage of it lol
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fraggle
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: BasilBush]
#26979754 - 10/11/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just out again for a couple of hours at 'cap town' this morning (Sunday).
I only really stopped because I couldn't get anymore in my box! Got all these in about 20 square meters of land

They are literally carpeting the high peak, saw easily 5 times as many as I picked and didn't really go that far.

Edited by fraggle (10/12/20 03:38 AM)
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: fraggle]
#26979782 - 10/11/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Was out today couple of hours only found one lots of semiglobata but to libs about 3 weeks ago I found around 20 in a sheep field it was empty but the farmers but the sheep back in the field and its a small field so there eating all my shrooms ibhad a great patch last year but this year I have found about 3-4 where as last year I got around 80-100 caps from the same area last year got a few weeks so gonna try a few new places and keep checking my spot from last year to see if it springs in to life
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: fraggle]
#26979839 - 10/11/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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fraggle said:
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Weenyburgers said: ... Concerned about overpicking and ruining the patch
Whilst I am sure some people would disagree - to my mind the idea of over picking is a bit of a misnomer.
In the same way that picking all the apples of tree doesn't harm the tree - picking the fruiting bodies of fungus doesn't harm the mycelium.
There was actually a quite interesting study showing no difference in species richness or abundance of species between picked and unpicked sites...
https://www.conservationevidence.com/individual-study/230
It's an interesting subject, there's probably a lot of factors as to why liberty caps can vanish from an area once fruitful. I can say I know approx 15 fields in close proximity from 20 years ago, never produced the thousands collected the first time picked. Today you'll not find one on them. My friends and I always say its our fault for picking them clean but who knows. My rule now is to always leave a couple behind from a cluster or if they're rotten stamp them down a bit, basically just don't be too greedy
This was interesting closing line from the, study:
However, as widescale harvesting fungi may deplete the availability of spores over large areas, further information about spore dispersal is needed before the impacts of such harvesting on fungi populations can be determined.
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: Scout101]
#26979884 - 10/11/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Found about 200 today in the midlands. First seasons not going bad so far! Nice finds people.
https://files.shroomery.org/files/20-41/243829097-20201011_143653.jpg
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About an hours picking today in Wales, 94g wet. Will hopefully get out a again at some more local spots this week
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: Scout101]
#26979938 - 10/11/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Out hunting a couple weeks in a row, in the north-west, with decent results. About 80g each day (to split between four, which seems great).
I'm confident with almost all the ones I kept but would like to query a few...

Bottom left: Protostropharia semiglobata? (see a lot of these darker brown mushrooms in the same areas... very britle cap... sometimes quite large. Top left: Stropharia semiglobata? (gills were flat across the bottom and attached to the stem I think) Top middle: Pretty sure these are just lib pins. Am I right in thinking that the gills can be much paler when young? Top right: Are these just older libs? Bottom right: Seem like libs but not much nipple at all and I couldn't really tell if there was a pellicle.


Paler gills in the ones above... The one on the right doesn't have much of a nipple and has a very thick stem. Should I be suspicous? All those four do have a pellicle though.

King Shroom! Wow this boy was the biggest I've ever seen and still looked like he had some growth in him. At least 2.5 cm cap height!
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: Murmurp]
#26979972 - 10/11/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hi, I am very new to mushroom picking and I've recently been going out looking for liberty caps. I'm not sure if I've actually found any but I was wondering if somebody could tell me if ANY of these mushrooms are libs.
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: RaoulDuke56]
#26980075 - 10/11/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not liberty caps raoulduke.
Central Scotland still flushing hard. Need more rain though before the frost comes. Picked these in an hour today. Happy hunting folks
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: RaoulDuke56]
#26980109 - 10/11/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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2,3,5,14 are possible, imo, but hard to tell from that photo.
You should look up some basic stuff on what to look for because some of those are blindingly obvious non-libs. :P
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: Murmurp]
#26980160 - 10/11/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Found them on a grass field today. Are they liberty caps?
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fraggle
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: SterV]
#26980284 - 10/11/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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SterV said: Found them on a grass field today. Are they liberty caps?
Yes they are.
You can just break the stem and pick them...you don't have to excavate the whole field
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: SterV]
#26980289 - 10/11/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amazing finds the last week π₯
Just got back from the highlands myself, was a treat to find libs in so many amazing locations, the scenery is holy, so obvs a massive bonus finding them there. I Envy any local pickers to the highlands π tried libs in a soup for the first time ever too which tasted pretty dank, didnt have a bad tingle either π
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: Scout101]
#26980849 - 10/12/20 03:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Scout101 said:
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fraggle said:
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Weenyburgers said: ... Concerned about overpicking and ruining the patch
Whilst I am sure some people would disagree - to my mind the idea of over picking is a bit of a misnomer.
In the same way that picking all the apples of tree doesn't harm the tree - picking the fruiting bodies of fungus doesn't harm the mycelium.
There was actually a quite interesting study showing no difference in species richness or abundance of species between picked and unpicked sites...
https://www.conservationevidence.com/individual-study/230
It's an interesting subject, there's probably a lot of factors as to why liberty caps can vanish from an area once fruitful. I can say I know approx 15 fields in close proximity from 20 years ago, never produced the thousands collected the first time picked. Today you'll not find one on them. My friends and I always say its our fault for picking them clean but who knows. My rule now is to always leave a couple behind from a cluster or if they're rotten stamp them down a bit, basically just don't be too greedy
This was interesting closing line from the, study:
However, as widescale harvesting fungi may deplete the availability of spores over large areas, further information about spore dispersal is needed before the impacts of such harvesting on fungi populations can be determined.
Indeed it is very interesting - and no one can say for sure what the long term effects of picking are. Each species might behave differently as well - so studying one in one location doesn't necessarily translate. In reality there are just so many variables...
All that said - once a mushroom cap is open it is releasing spores - so one could realistically conjecture that picking them and moving them might increase rather than decrease spore dispersal. Anecdotally this would seem to be the case - centuries of large scale collection of many species in Italy, France, etc have not appeared to lead to long-term damage - indeed in some areas the range and density appears to be going up not down.
In general I think the principal of not being too greedy is great - not just for picking but in all things 
However I wouldn't stamp any down...stamping really could damage the mycelium - indeed walking/trampling around habitat could be more damaging than any amount of picking fruits.
Either way I think it best to try to go gently, don't strip it bare - and hopefully you will find them for years to come!
Edited by fraggle (10/12/20 03:36 AM)
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Re: Official UK Liberty Cap Thread 2020 [Re: sigma_j]
#26980915 - 10/12/20 06:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Went on a foraging weekend in Shropshire. These were all found growing in a small cluster up in sheep pasture. This is my first find (I hope) after a lot of searching and self education on these forums. Can anyone help with an ID?


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