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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: Asura]
#26884565 - 08/17/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah the cambo stems were much thicker than the wild coast. Those are the only two I’ve done so far but the wild coast had stems like hairs on some of them, lol trying to clone from the stem would be so frustrating.
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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: A.k.a]
#26884753 - 08/17/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Blue, here's the tray with 1% ProMycel Gold. No where near a canopy, but wow, there are some huge fruits in this tray. And there are spots where they just packed dense.

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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: Asura]
#26884798 - 08/17/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asura said: I never would have known these were cambo if I hadn't seen the grows here and started with a culture. Looks like cyans to me. The only clue is the caps and stipe are a little thicker.
ya i get fruits that look more like cyans and then in the same tray there will b fruits that say cambo all day
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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: Asura]
#26885589 - 08/17/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asura said: Blue, here's the tray with 1% ProMycel Gold. No where near a canopy, but wow, there are some huge fruits in this tray. And there are spots where they just packed dense.
 
Those look more pan cyan like than mine did, except they are still too large for pan cyan. I have noted that these tend to grow in small clumps more often, for me especially in the second flush. This is a picture the first time I grew pan cambos, and back then I noted the usually large size of caps relative to pan cyan as well as their tendency to pin even once I threw the trays out (in the trash). Their strong tendency to flush no matter what happens is why I've said they are a good stepping stone for a grower to something little harder than cubensis. They aren't as difficult to grow as pan cyans but definitely harder than cubes.

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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: A.k.a]
#26885617 - 08/17/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: These are the cambo jam right??
I wonder why mine had such different caps. I guess it’s a pheno thing but i haven’t seen it anywhere else. Mine were much smaller and flatter than normal.
 
They never got that half circle domed look.
but aka u gtta also understand they are growing from my actual culture all given off site of coarse to where u were growin from a print from the culture
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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: Blue Helix]
#26885959 - 08/18/20 01:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asura said: Blue, here's the tray with 1% ProMycel Gold. No where near a canopy, but wow, there are some huge fruits in this tray. And there are spots where they just packed dense.
 
Those look more pan cyan like than mine did, except they are still too large for pan cyan. I have noted that these tend to grow in small clumps more often, for me especially in the second flush. This is a picture the first time I grew pan cambos, and back then I noted the usually large size of caps relative to pan cyan as well as their tendency to pin even once I threw the trays out (in the trash). Their strong tendency to flush no matter what happens is why I've said they are a good stepping stone for a grower to something little harder than cubensis. They aren't as difficult to grow as pan cyans but definitely harder than cubes.
 
reminds me of these guys back to the days

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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: Asura]
#26885994 - 08/18/20 03:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asura said: Blue, here's the tray with 1% ProMycel Gold. No where near a canopy, but wow, there are some huge fruits in this tray. And there are spots where they just packed dense.
 
i can def see the resemblence tho. but those r def fatter
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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: jcm4620]
#26886377 - 08/18/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The pic doesn't really do reality justice. Some of my prints are half dollar sized. Wish I could get a whole tray of nothing but beef like that!
The total on that tray so far is just 160g - just 40% BE so far.
Second flush is going now.
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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: Asura]
#26886584 - 08/18/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Where might one acquire said promycel
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personally il argue that it wasnt the promycel i had the exact opposite results my trsy was not nearly as full of fruits as the one without it and it also took a lot longer to pin so id say if anything id have to try it again and see what happens. il argue that those fruits got as huge as they did more from the bottom watering than the promycel. cuz prior to the bottom watering and also jacking up that fae if u did that like i suggested aslo cuz b4 all that that tray looked nothing like that cuz those things look fuckin beautiful but i think its at least worth exploring further with the promycel
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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: jcm4620]
#26886769 - 08/18/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was thinking of using it for gourmet. Or at least seeing how It differs.
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Celestialexplorer1 said: I was thinking of using it for gourmet. Or at least seeing how It differs.
It's not designed for these mushrooms really. It's designed for traditional compost-based mushrooms like buttons. These manure-based ones (or some people use grains I guess), probably aren't helped by this much. In fact the additional nutrients might be harmful to colonization; it's a myth that the more nutrients the better, an amateur assumption.
I am using it in the substrate prior to pressure cooking. That is not the way it was intended to be used either. It was intended to be used in the substrate prior to the tray lay consolidation period or at spawning. If you are using it outside of that or in your casing, you are using it a way it was not intended (as I am doing prior to pressure cooking).
The stuff is made by a company in northern California (close to the San Jose area) named Amycel. The ProMycel Gold is the most expensive spawn amendment they sell, but It runs only $27 for a 50-pound bag (less if you buy 20 baags), super cheap because the target customer is a commercial grower, not a hobbyist that grows microscopic grows like here.
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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: Blue Helix]
#27055843 - 11/24/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi Helix, the molded trays, did you harvest then toss or did you just toss altogether? Seems kinda stupid to ask, but do you just put them as is in garbage bags and toss the substrates or break it up, bury it etc.
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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: Phony Phone]
#27055976 - 11/24/20 06:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I always burry my pan sub and only twice have seen them fruit outdoors but the slugs got them before they matured.
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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: Phony Phone]
#27056419 - 11/24/20 11:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Phony Phone said: Hi Helix, the molded trays, did you harvest then toss or did you just toss altogether? Seems kinda stupid to ask, but do you just put them as is in garbage bags and toss the substrates or break it up, bury it etc.

The harvest was a total loss at 100% BE. I am just abandoning this whole log. I cannot believe how poor the yield was! I'm doing another test of the high-grain substrate and seeing where it leads me. Keep an eye out! My hope is to bridge a kind of hybrid between the monotub abuse tech and the normal cube tech.
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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: Blue Helix]
#27169400 - 01/25/21 03:55 PM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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Blue Helix I know your sterilize big bags for 5h. What is your time advice for two small bags /~1.3 pounds each/ with same mix proportions? I guess 2-2.5h will be enough
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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: gt40]
#27169526 - 01/25/21 05:16 PM (3 years, 3 days ago) |
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In case he doesn't see this...he'll probably tell you 4 hours. That's how long I do mine.
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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: Asura]
#27169847 - 01/25/21 08:10 PM (3 years, 2 days ago) |
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asura u fill your PC with 5 quarts of water but how many quarts is your PC?
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23 quart Presto
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Re: Panaeolus Grow Log Report [Re: Asura]
#27170124 - 01/26/21 12:59 AM (3 years, 2 days ago) |
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Asura said: In case he doesn't see this...he'll probably tell you 4 hours. That's how long I do mine.
I remember his post with estimated time periods for different volumes regards to proportion of grain with manure & verm. Just can't find it nowhere. But it's okay, the whole idea is pretty clear
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