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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26906351 - 08/29/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Wrong.  The woman who endured George Floyd’s armed robbery has to live with seeing his face all over the news and in murals throughout the country.  I think it might be difficult to relive that experience when she sees his face.  But you’re right about something, it’s inhuman to stick a gun to the belly of a pregnant woman.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26906502 - 08/29/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

These are comments posted on the militia’s Facebook page organizing their activities last Tuesday night. How is this any different than the kind of radicalization ISIS does?



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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26906511 - 08/29/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Hey MODS... when did it become acceptable to incite and encourage murder on the shroomery? This guy fits the profile of a future mass shooter. He’s literally admitting what he’s saying is not legal, but saying it’s moral to kill people. Time to cut him loose, don’t you think? A lot of us are getting pretty sick of this over the top glorification of violence.

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I'm making a moral case this time, not a legal one.

If you're stealing or breaking my shit and I have a gun, I'm gonna shoot you, so better not steal or break my shit.

I advocate anyone else to do the same.







No, he's not inciting murder at all. He's suggesting that he's willing to protect his property with violent actions. I'm sure in many scenarios in the US, he's perfectly legal to do so.

As far as violating any rules on this site, he's not doing that either. You're strawmaning his position and that's not being intellectually honest. To his fault, he didn't get into specifics about his property. Guess what?  If someone is breaking into my house, I'm not asking questions about if they're stealing or not. The response from me remains the same and it's not pretty.

If someone is breaking into my car and stealing the loose change (like as happened several times in the past), I'm not going to do anything violent about it. In fact, I'll just remind myself to lock the car up the next time.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman]
    #26906535 - 08/29/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If you catch someone breaking into your car and you kill them you’re a murderer.

He could have said “breaking into my house.” He didn’t. It seems he was deliberately taking about defending “things” with lethal force. I don’t think it’s legal anywhere in this country to kill someone for stealing or breaking “things,” but he has stated his belief that it’s acceptable on many occasions.

See the Facebook screen caps I posted above. The kind of rhetoric vahn engages in is reckless, and he is explicitly encouraging using lethal force which in most cases would amount to murder. I have no doubt social media and online message boards helped shape the kind of actions Kyle Rittenhouse thought would be legally justified, which resulted in two deaths and his own life ruined.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26906550 - 08/29/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's a very fine line we're discussing here and the specifics are super important when discussing the use of force for protecting ourselves and property.

The idea of killing people for potentially destroying private or public property is pure insanity and it's usually breaking the law. I think we already have all the laws on the books to deal with all of these different scenarios so it's nothing to get irate about today.

If people are promoting the killing of people on social media, that's on them and they will have to suffer the potential legal ramifications.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26906552 - 08/29/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Oh look Kyle Rittenhouse on tape punching a girl in the head from behind. The double murdering hero of the right.

https://twitter.com/donvoncrump1/status/1299845373419163648?s=21


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman]
    #26906565 - 08/29/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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It's a very fine line we're discussing here and the specifics are super important when discussing the use of force for protecting ourselves and property.

The idea of killing people for potentially destroying private or public property is pure insanity and it's usually breaking the law. I think we already have all the laws on the books to deal with all of these different scenarios so it's nothing to get irate about today..




Yes we do have laws and vahn is explicitly encouraging people to ignore those laws. Not laws that criminalize personal drug use, but murder. First degree murder.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26906571 - 08/29/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26906584 - 08/29/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

How many videos of people trying to stop him from committing more violence are there?

Eminence and Vahn are busy right now digging into that girls past to find if she’s ever been suspended from school or caught on tape buying vape products underage.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26906588 - 08/29/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Also his fucking shoes. He’s a literal homicidal clown. And the socks.



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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26906646 - 08/29/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh look Kyle Rittenhouse on tape punching a girl in the head from behind. The double murdering hero of the right.

https://twitter.com/donvoncrump1/status/1299845373419163648?s=21



Koods he was protecting his friends from a vicious leftist. That bitch obviously had it comin.

If she didnt want to get hit she shouldnt have been on that street corner.
He was obviously defending himself and his friends. Too bad he didnt have his gun
cause he totally would have been justified in killing her in self defense.

That kid is a pos :lol:

How anyone can defend him I dont know...


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26906683 - 08/29/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Hey MODS... when did it become acceptable to incite and encourage murder on the shroomery? This guy fits the profile of a future mass shooter. He’s literally admitting what he’s saying is not legal, but saying it’s moral to kill people. Time to cut him loose, don’t you think? A lot of us are getting pretty sick of this over the top glorification of violence.

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I'm making a moral case this time, not a legal one.

If you're stealing or breaking my shit and I have a gun, I'm gonna shoot you, so better not steal or break my shit.

I advocate anyone else to do the same.







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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26906692 - 08/29/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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here's the end
https://twitter.com/DJudah144/status/1299844014884020226?s=20




Can someone translate?

Also just seems like those bystanders where doing exactly what Rittenhouse was doing for his families car dealership.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: meltdowner]
    #26906699 - 08/29/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

its 2 videos of him beating up a little girl. some guys were recording it and when he started punching her they ran over and knocked him around and chased him off and left

also, those bystanders didn't shoot him and dont appear to be 17 year olds with assault rifles. i don't like how they talk about women but at least they have some values


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26906711 - 08/29/20 09:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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its 2 videos of him beating up a little girl. some guys were recording it and when he started punching her they ran over and knocked him around and chased him off and left

also, those bystanders didn't shoot him




We must not have watched the same video because I saw two teenage girls attack him and his friends and he just defended himself.  I would have done the same.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: meltdowner]
    #26906714 - 08/29/20 09:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

There was nothing about race in that conversation, but apparently you only imagine non white people engaging in theft and vandalism.

Did you not notice that everyone Kyle Rittenhouse shot was white? 🤔


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26906716 - 08/29/20 09:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Observe the bootlickers in these threads.
Know them.
Recognize their utter irredeemability.
These are the Kyle Rittenhouses of the world.  Scared little man-children who would like nothing more than an excuse to shoot you in the street.  They aren't interested in reason.  They aren't interested reform.  They are interested in your subjugation.  They are interested in stifling progress for this and subsequent generations.  They would put a boot to your neck, lest you claw your way up to a social standing equivalent to theirs.  They are the spoiled children who would break their toys before they would share them.

These are not good people.

Sometimes there is nuance in the world and our decisions and actions require nuance as well.

This is not one of those times.

We are lucky around here in that the fascists and their sympathizers are still pretty fringe.  We can see their nonsense and get a good chuckle out of manhandling their arguments.

The rest of society is not so lucky.

There are many places in the United States wherein these chuds make up a significant portion of the public.  They are organized and they are traveling en mass to places where they feel they can stoke conflict with the locals without pushback from law enforcement.  They are literally stalking, hunting, and killing protesters who are bravely trying to make a better society for all of us.  Cops won't save us from these people; they are those people.

Only we can save us.

It is imperative that all of us do our part in the coming months to prepare insofar as possible to defend ourselves, our loved ones and our future from the fascists who would gladly see us dead.




LOL

Nothing wrong with enjoying the protection of men and women who put their life on the line every day to keep people safe from low-life scumbags.  Kyle is a patriot who defended himself and you're just mad your commie cousins got shot in the chest for attacking a guy with a gun.  Get over it , dude.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: meltdowner] * 1
    #26906718 - 08/29/20 09:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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its 2 videos of him beating up a little girl. some guys were recording it and when he started punching her they ran over and knocked him around and chased him off and left

also, those bystanders didn't shoot him




We must not have watched the same video because I saw two teenage girls attack him and his friends and he just defended himself.  I would have done the same.




no. he was swinging at her from behind.

also, those bystanders didn't shoot him and dont appear to be 17 year olds with assault rifles. i don't like how they talk about women but at least they have some values



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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26906720 - 08/29/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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its 2 videos of him beating up a little girl. some guys were recording it and when he started punching her they ran over and knocked him around and chased him off and left

also, those bystanders didn't shoot him




We must not have watched the same video because I saw two teenage girls attack him and his friends and he just defended himself.  I would have done the same.




no. he was swinging at her from behind.

also, those bystanders didn't shoot him and dont appear to be 17 year olds with assault rifles. i don't like how they talk about women but at least they have some values






lmfao oh the hypocrisy


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: meltdowner]
    #26906721 - 08/29/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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its 2 videos of him beating up a little girl. some guys were recording it and when he started punching her they ran over and knocked him around and chased him off and left

also, those bystanders didn't shoot him




We must not have watched the same video because I saw two teenage girls attack him and his friends and he just defended himself.  I would have done the same.




There’s 20 seconds of him punching some girl on the back of her head. That’s defending yourself?

It’s hard to tell who started what, but this isn’t the fifth grade and “she punched me first” isn’t an adult excuse for fighting.


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