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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26837269 - 07/21/20 10:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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right? im glad you see it now too
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Forty years on, most Mormons still believe the racist temple ban was God's will June 11, 2018 Jana Riess
This month, Mormons are celebrating the reversal of the priesthood/temple ban that was in place in the LDS Church until 1978. In the Next Mormons research, one question we endeavored to answer was how Mormons today feel about the ban.
I found the results surprising, and also rather depressing.
Just to explain this policy, until 1978 any Mormon of African descent was prohibited entrance into the Church’s temples for ordinances such as sealings and endowments. This effectively barred them from entering the highest level of heaven after death (the Celestial Kingdom), which Mormons believe can only be obtained by people who have received those ordinances in the temple.
The ban also prohibited men of African descent from holding the LDS priesthood, despite historical evidence that several black men were ordained to the priesthood under Joseph Smith before Brigham Young forbade it in 1852.
https://religionnews.com/2018/06/11/40-years-later-most-mormons-still-believe-the-racist-priesthood-temple-ban-was-gods-will/
also, in general they have always hated natives and did commit genocide
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26837271 - 07/21/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: By all means, share with me your better system that is free of tyranny and functions properly for 300 million Americans of all shades of morals and belief systems (or lack thereof).
I'm actually pretty excited to hear it.
You think they waited for a perfect solution before the last revolution in this country? Fuck no! They got rid of King George first and did the rest on the fly. Took quite awhile to settle on an approximation of what we've got now, really.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
#26837275 - 07/21/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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MadMuncher said: right? im glad you see it now too
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FLUNKING SAINTHOOD
Forty years on, most Mormons still believe the racist temple ban was God's will June 11, 2018 Jana Riess
This month, Mormons are celebrating the reversal of the priesthood/temple ban that was in place in the LDS Church until 1978. In the Next Mormons research, one question we endeavored to answer was how Mormons today feel about the ban.
I found the results surprising, and also rather depressing.
Just to explain this policy, until 1978 any Mormon of African descent was prohibited entrance into the Church’s temples for ordinances such as sealings and endowments. This effectively barred them from entering the highest level of heaven after death (the Celestial Kingdom), which Mormons believe can only be obtained by people who have received those ordinances in the temple.
The ban also prohibited men of African descent from holding the LDS priesthood, despite historical evidence that several black men were ordained to the priesthood under Joseph Smith before Brigham Young forbade it in 1852.
https://religionnews.com/2018/06/11/40-years-later-most-mormons-still-believe-the-racist-priesthood-temple-ban-was-gods-will/
also, in general they have always hated natives and did commit genocide
Oh if you want to talk Mormonism, I'll talk to you about it all day until I'm blue in the face. I have plenty of harsh criticisms against the church and I fantasized for a while about blowing up the Salt Lake City temple.
So don't twist my words. All I said in is that Mormons are good at organizing and practicing law without law. Even Asante in his preparedness post linked to a Mormon preparedness article.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa] 2
#26837283 - 07/21/20 11:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: By all means, share with me your better system that is free of tyranny and functions properly for 300 million Americans of all shades of morals and belief systems (or lack thereof).
I'm actually pretty excited to hear it.
You think they waited for a perfect solution before the last revolution in this country? Fuck no! They got rid of King George first and did the rest on the fly. Took quite awhile to settle on an approximation of what we've got now, really.
We've amended the constitution many times, and our founding fathers were smart enough to allow room for that because they knew many of their ideas were WAY ahead of their time and the people as a whole wouldn't be ready for many changes for decades or centuries to come. They really were brilliant men... mixed with a few bastards and assholes.
And don't misunderstand me, I think we can improve. But dismantling the system and reforming it? No... we have a good system, honestly. We need to end the drug war and get rid of private prisons and do a few things to fine tune it still, but the ideas we're founded on are excellent.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26837284 - 07/21/20 11:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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aha that's awesome kinda came off as a dick sorry. i don't feel that intensely about them but i probably would if i had been raised by my uncle. fuck that temple. but don't harm them or fuck their constitutional rights to do whatever they want unless they are infringing on someone else's rights to do whatever they want, alright?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
#26837293 - 07/21/20 11:12 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah... they've behaved lately, but when I left in 2008 they were funneling money into California to help push Prop 8 and I was fucking pissed off. I saw that as mixing of church and state and I wanted to torch shit up, too. Problem was, I didn't know how to harm the church without harming innocent people, so I just wrote about it a lot. Got a few people to follow me.
Mormonism has a lot of good values going for it mixed some of the most amazing mind-fuckery bullshit I've ever seen. I could write out sermons and I better not do it here.
I spent 2008-2015 bashing the shit out of republicans, really. Mormons have mellowed out lately, though... I now I have a new target that reminds me what I used to hate about closed-minded Christians, almost psychologically to the tee.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26837299 - 07/21/20 11:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Our constitution is severely outdated and one of the main reasons the US is a country on the decline. We are stuck with 250 year old rules.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26837308 - 07/21/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not so sure I can agree with that. First of all, I just went through a big shpeal about amendments and how we DON'T have all the same rules as we used to and how we can add MORE amendments if necessary.
Plus, whatever we've done has allowed us to remain the world's largest superpower, being able to protect not just ourselves but dozens of other smaller nations. I think whatever we did was pretty good.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26837311 - 07/21/20 11:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Glory days
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26837313 - 07/21/20 11:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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We have a system where the loser gets to be President and now we are pitied and laughed at around the world
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26837351 - 07/22/20 12:05 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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lets go vandalize federal property c'mon. bet theyre gassing the moms again
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26837391 - 07/22/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Some people here (myself included) want objective proof of things.
Me too. I'm not disagreeing with that, actually.
Amazing. The two posters most resistant to objective truth say they want objective proof.
Says the guy who make believes more than anyone else here.
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Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (07/22/20 01:45 AM)
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#26837395 - 07/22/20 12:58 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sulfurshelfsean said: Damn...this is the kind of thread I expect to be made of a good 35% of falcon calling make believe. But not one....
Up until this post, I'm mainly seeing opinions, and not facts. What do you think is make believe?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26837406 - 07/22/20 01:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: You’ve spent this entire thread arguing that everyone at the protests should be locked up. Make up your mind.
Source, or make believe? I never saw that.
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Vahn421 said: I never fucking said that. And you're conflating protesters with rioters. Protesters are fine. Criminals are not.
That makes two of us that wants a source. Can you deliver koods?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26837412 - 07/22/20 01:20 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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im downtown portland right now. havnt seen any terrorists yet. lets take a little walk about
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
#26837572 - 07/22/20 05:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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found the terrorists. see if you can spot them kinda hard to see
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26837765 - 07/22/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: You’ve spent this entire thread arguing that everyone at the protests should be locked up. Make up your mind.
Source, or make believe? I never saw that.
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Vahn421 said: I never fucking said that. And you're conflating protesters with rioters. Protesters are fine. Criminals are not.
That makes two of us that wants a source. Can you deliver koods?
Apparently koods thinks that rioting is protesting
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
#26837767 - 07/22/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are you saying that one cannot riot in protest?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil] 1
#26837771 - 07/22/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Are you saying that one cannot riot in protest?
Of course you could but it's agianst law. I'd bet that a majority of Americans are FOR the peaceful protests that are occurring and vehemently AGIANST rioting, looting and attacking the police
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#26837794 - 07/22/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: You’ve spent this entire thread arguing that everyone at the protests should be locked up. Make up your mind.
Source, or make believe? I never saw that.
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Vahn421 said: I never fucking said that. And you're conflating protesters with rioters. Protesters are fine. Criminals are not.
That makes two of us that wants a source. Can you deliver koods?
Vahn:
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The rioters get mad that the feds are interfering with their "peaceful" protests and use it as justification to commit more crime, despite the fact that their protests were not peaceful to begin with. It's sick and twisted. The mentality of children, really.
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