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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26902243 - 08/27/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

A guy that seems to know his guns pointed out that in the video I just posted above, the first shot fired at the 11 second mark doesn't sound like Kyle's gun and instead of Kyle having thrown a warning shot out, it may have been someone else that fired a shot first, causing Kyle to retaliate when he was rushed. (This actually makes more sense as in the footage, Kyle is still running when the first shot is fired. He hasn't turned around yet.)

"The gunshot at 0:11 does not sound like the AR15, it sounds identical to the handgun shots at 0:17 seconds, which means someone fired a handgun first."


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26902252 - 08/27/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Or if they had been properly trained they would have already known what to do so there wouldn't have been any confusion. Like common sense tactics like: 1 keeps his gun drawn and aimed at the suspect while the other puts his away to make use of his taser or something


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #26902257 - 08/27/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

No one in the history of molotov cocktails has put a lit one into a plastic bag "for extra swing momentum". If you claim to see fire: pause the video, zoom in. Post the screenshot here.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #26902263 - 08/27/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I've already admitted it may be edited now that I've seen more than one video, that doesn't bother me. It may or may not be.

What bothers me is why it was thrown in the first place. It obviously wasn't just a plastic bag, even if it was a plastic bag.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26902280 - 08/27/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It’s also obvious by how far the bag went when thrown there wasn’t anything inside capable of doing any damage that would warrant killing someone over.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Kwyjibo] * 1
    #26902281 - 08/27/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

And the throwing of the bag isn't why he was shot.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26902286 - 08/27/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Then why do you keep focusing on the bag?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #26902309 - 08/27/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Read the last few pages, it will answer your Q for you.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26902323 - 08/27/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I have. You’ve made several posts about the bag in your quest to justify murder.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26902332 - 08/27/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I think they wanted to exercise as much restraint as possible until they were worried a weapon was involved.




Kyle Rittenhouse had just murdered two people and walked directly at an entire battalion of cops with a gun strapped around his neck while repeatedly touching it. They exercised so much restraint he got to drive home.




They didn't fucking see him do it, dude. How hard is this?




They were responding to reports of a shooting and they ignored the guy leaving the scene with a plainly visible gun. I watched a video the other day of a black guy who spent a half hour in handcuffs because his shirt color was similar to the shirt color of a shoplifting suspect, but somehow when the cops have reports of a GUY WITH A GUN shooting people, they don’t even feel threatened by A GUY WITH A GUN walking towards them. You have to be fucking kidding me.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26902347 - 08/27/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I think its because others were there with guns


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26902349 - 08/27/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I think they wanted to exercise as much restraint as possible until they were worried a weapon was involved.




Kyle Rittenhouse had just murdered two people and walked directly at an entire battalion of cops with a gun strapped around his neck while repeatedly touching it. They exercised so much restraint he got to drive home.




They didn't fucking see him do it, dude. How hard is this?




They were responding to reports of a shooting and they ignored the guy leaving the scene with a plainly visible gun. I watched a video the other day of a black guy who spent a half hour in handcuffs because his shirt color was similar to the shirt color of a shoplifting suspect, but somehow when the cops have reports of a GUY WITH A GUN shooting people, they don’t even feel threatened by A GUY WITH A GUN walking towards them. You have to be fucking kidding me.




That's a nice theory, but we don't know the details of what happened with the individual cops out there or what information they were getting within the first few seconds of this all going down.

The, "guy with the gun" had his hands in the air. Open carry is allowed.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26902351 - 08/27/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you know what reduces interactions that go bad?




Compliance.




Yes, but we're not addressing interactions that don't go perfect on either end of the equation, correct?

You do realize cops constantly demand compliance in violation of our Constitutional Rights?

So police should comply with the law as well as the citizens?  It's not a one way street is it?

Who complies less with the law in police and the public interactions, the police or citizens?  It's obviously overwhelmingly the cops that violate the law. To them, it's just normal policing tactics.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] * 2
    #26902371 - 08/27/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Self defense?? Someone, unarmed, runs up to a fucker with an AR-15 and gets shot dead, you claim he acted in self defense?? Shut the fuck up Mod Edit:flame removed Vahn.

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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Frank Zappotecorum]
    #26902375 - 08/27/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Self defense?? Someone, unarmed, runs up to a fucker with an AR-15 and gets shot dead, you claim he acted in self defense?? Shut the fuck up and go fuck yourself Vahn.




Enjoy your warning/ban.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26902380 - 08/27/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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And the throwing of the bag isn't why he was shot.




He was shot because the Kenosha cops let a gang of vigilantes roam around a riot. It was a riot. There was violence. There was a curfew. Yet the police not only allowed these thugs to patrol the streets, they encouraged it.

They didn’t check their criminal records to see if they were allowed to posses their weapons. They didn’t check the weapons to see if they were legal. They didn’t ask the kid for ID to see if he was even old enough to have a gun. They didn’t arrest them FOR SHOWING UP TO A RIOT AFTER CURFEW WITH ASSAULT WEAPONS. THEY DIDNT ARREST THE KID EVEN AFTER HE MURDERED TWO PEOPLE.

Yet, on Sunday a black man who was present at a domestic dispute was required to identify himself, treated with no respect and then shot because there was a chance he might have had a weapon. Remember the cops didn’t respond to reports a man threatening people with a kinfe. It was a domestic dispute where he wasn’t even one of the combatants, but they still decided he was dangerous, BUT A WHITE MAN WITH A GUN AT THE SCENE OF A SHOOTING is so non threatening to the cops, he is literally ignored.

The reality of what is going on in this country is staring you in the face and all you want to do is lick the boots of the fascists and make excuses for murder.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26902384 - 08/27/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Yet the police not only allowed these thugs to patrol the streets, they encouraged it.




What the fuck? All of a sudden you're arguing for the cops to stop the rioting?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] * 1
    #26902386 - 08/27/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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And the throwing of the bag isn't why he was shot.




He was shot because the Kenosha cops let a gang of vigilantes roam around a riot. It was a riot. There was violence. There was a curfew. Yet the police not only allowed these thugs to patrol the streets, they encouraged it.

They didn’t check their criminal records to see if they were allowed to posses their weapons. They didn’t check the weapons to see if they were legal. They didn’t ask the kid for ID to see if he was even old enough to have a gun. They didn’t arrest them FOR SHOWING UP TO A RIOT AFTER CURFEW WITH ASSAULT WEAPONS. THEY DIDNT ARREST THE KID EVEN AFTER HE MURDERED TWO PEOPLE.

Yet, on Sunday a black man who was present at a domestic dispute was required to identify himself, treated with no respect and then shot because there was a chance he might have had a weapon. Remember the cops didn’t respond to reports a man threatening people with a kinfe. It was a domestic dispute where he wasn’t even one of the combatants, but they still decided he was dangerous, BUT A WHITE MAN WITH A GUN AT THE SCENE OF A SHOOTING is so non threatening to the cops, he is literally ignored.

The reality of what is going on in this country is staring you in the face and all you want to do is lick the boots of the fascists and make excuses for murder.




Dude, your conflating of these two examples needs to stop. They aren't like each other at all in the way you portray them.

I have gone into THOROUGH detail on both accounts and have done hours of research.

You keep repeating the same thing over and over without any fucking context at all, because it's only without the context you can make any case whatsoever.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26902391 - 08/27/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

True. Totally different. Black and white as they say.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26902397 - 08/27/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Self defense?? Someone, unarmed, runs up to a fucker with an AR-15 and gets shot dead, you claim he acted in self defense?? Shut the fuck up and go fuck yourself Vahn.




Enjoy your warning/ban.




This is a pathetic comment for someone who just posted this earlier. You are one of the most intellectually dishonest persons I’ve ever dealt with.



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